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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:24 PM

 

A ban for assault weapons are needed now. Let everyone live with revolvers.

No civilians may own an assault rifle. Only law enforcement and military types should have severely limited access to these guns.

Why the fuck do we need an AR-15? An AK-47? What purpose do these guns have except sexual fantasy and insane minds?

There is no need to kill that many people at once.

No need.

Any gungeoner disagrees, then by all means, go stroke your guns some more.

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Reply A ban for assault weapons are needed now. Let everyone live with revolvers. (Original post)
Panasonic Dec 2012 OP
onehandle Dec 2012 #1
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #20
get the red out Dec 2012 #2
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #3
Lex Dec 2012 #4
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #10
Zoeisright Dec 2012 #12
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #18
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #21
Lex Dec 2012 #13
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #16
former-republican Dec 2012 #5
cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #6
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #7
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #8
SpartanDem Dec 2012 #9
Zoeisright Dec 2012 #11
Lex Dec 2012 #14
justanidea Dec 2012 #15
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #22
Logical Dec 2012 #17
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #19
Marrah_G Dec 2012 #23

Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:27 PM

1. They should be limited to the guns of the time of the 2nd Amendment.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:58 PM

20. Same with voting rights and printing presses?

Surely you have a better sound bite that this

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:31 PM

2. Agree

They need to go. No sense in anyone having them.

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:31 PM

3. Are you volunteering to confiscate 180 million weapons?

Good luck.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:33 PM

4. The problem is NOT too big to begin to fix it. nt

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Response to Lex (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:00 PM

10. OK, how do you propose to eliminate the 2nd Amendment?

There is zero chance of repealing it. Second, most gunowners are unlikely to voluntarily turn in their guns...so somebody is going to have to go door to door searching for and confiscating weapons. How do you propose this be done, how will it be paid for, and who is going to do it?
Perhaps in your fantasy-land the problem is resolvable by waving a magic wand, but in reality it is a hugely difficult problem... and one not easily solved with 90% of the country divided at polar extremes.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:04 PM

12. Not eliminate.

Enforce it as it was meant. You can have muskets. Period.

And your fake hand-wringing and whining is inappropriate today.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:27 PM

18. What fake hand-wringing?

You are mistaking me for a ban all guns nut using today's tragedy for a soapbox.
My position has been clear and consistant. More regulation and oversight of weapons is needed. That is unlikely to be achieved when one group wants completely unrestricted sales and ownership, and another wants to ban every weapon made in the past 150 years. Both groups are part of the problem.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:59 PM

21. Same with all other rights?

Think before your post, its appropriate

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:10 PM

13. Who said eliminate the 2nd Amendment? Stop whining

about a magic wand and cowering at the thought that something CAN be done.

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Response to Lex (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:20 PM

16. Well, you can't ban every weapon except revolvers ...

Without a drastic re-write of the second amendment. Leaving aside NRA, ALEC, and their lobbyists, most people aren't going to vote for rewriting the second amendment.
So the solution is increased regulation, background checks, limits on private sales, etc. Do you think the gun-owning majority of voters will support that, when one side is screaming to ban every weapon designed in the past 150 years?

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:35 PM

5. There was a ban on them for 10 years , it expired in 2004

 

the ban didn't do anything with crime rates committed with firearms

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:37 PM

6. We need to end this Wild West bullshit. Limit people to revolvers and pump-action rifles.

<ironic post>

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:41 PM

7. Definition of assault rifle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

what the shooter used was NOT a fully automatic capable weapon-which by the way are already illegal except under very limited circumstances.

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:41 PM

8. Handguns cause vastly, VASTLY more deaths than long guns. See this from the FBI:

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:50 PM

9. The AR-15 shoot one bullet at a time, like revoler

it's not fully automatic weapon, like the AK 47 where you just hold the trigger and go all "Rambo". Those type of weapons with very exceptions are banned from civilian use as they should be. I know people who have AR-15's and they use it like any other rifle, they go the range, some hunt with it. If there is any fantasy it's that guns like the AR-15 look military weapons, but they certainly don't work like them.

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:03 PM

11. Gun nuts can have as many fucking muskets as they want.

THERE is the true intent of the second amendment.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:10 PM

14. This.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:19 PM

15. There is no legal precedent for interpreting rights as only applying to the technology of the time.

 

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:23 PM

22. So you favor restricting voting rights and the press to similar historical levels?

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Response to Panasonic (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:22 PM

17. Tell us what assault weapon is. Because it is just a rifle actually!

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Response to Logical (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:29 PM

19. There you go using logic again. nt

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Response to Logical (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:26 PM

23. From the Federal Assault Weapons Ban

Criteria of an assault weapon

Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again; they do not fire automatically like a machine gun; rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.

In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.
An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law.

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

There is more information there in regards to high capacity magazines.

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