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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:25 AM

This is really awful

Think about it. As in so many other similar incidents, these CHILDREN will carry this with them for the rest of their lives.

An ELEMENTARY school. LITTLE kids.

Gawd Fucking Damn It.

C H I L D R E N

And some fucking nut with a fucking gun. Facing down a fucking army of men with more guns and camo and ammo and metallic clicks and clips sent home and armored vehicles and seige equipment and ambulances and lock downs.

F U C K

Make it fucking stop.







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Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 OP
shraby Dec 2012 #1
tk2kewl Dec 2012 #2
sufrommich Dec 2012 #4
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #5
Politicub Dec 2012 #11
catbyte Dec 2012 #39
happynewyear Dec 2012 #44
catbyte Dec 2012 #53
riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #41
pnwest Dec 2012 #3
onehandle Dec 2012 #6
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #8
Hoyt Dec 2012 #7
FunkyLeprechaun Dec 2012 #9
JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #29
Tumbulu Dec 2012 #14
Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #10
GObamaGO Dec 2012 #12
HappyMe Dec 2012 #13
w8liftinglady Dec 2012 #15
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #16
heaven05 Dec 2012 #20
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #23
heaven05 Dec 2012 #28
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #32
heaven05 Dec 2012 #35
SCVDem Dec 2012 #37
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #38
bvar22 Dec 2012 #22
Little Star Dec 2012 #33
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #46
TPaine7 Dec 2012 #17
Union Scribe Dec 2012 #24
flamingdem Dec 2012 #27
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #42
flamingdem Dec 2012 #52
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #57
sufrommich Dec 2012 #26
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #36
hfojvt Dec 2012 #18
deutsey Dec 2012 #19
OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #21
StrayKat Dec 2012 #25
TrogL Dec 2012 #30
anneboleyn Dec 2012 #47
Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #55
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #31
Flatpicker Dec 2012 #34
SCVDem Dec 2012 #40
drmjg Dec 2012 #43
Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #45
hollysmom Dec 2012 #48
Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #50
Myrina Dec 2012 #49
triplepoint Dec 2012 #51
ThingsGottaChange Dec 2012 #54
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #58
hifiguy Dec 2012 #61
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #62
ReRe Dec 2012 #56
CrispyQ Dec 2012 #59
ReRe Dec 2012 #63
CrispyQ Dec 2012 #64
redStateBlueHeart Dec 2012 #60

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:35 AM

1. Those kids will never outgrow it. It will be in their minds until they die and what kinds of

consequences will it lead to before that time?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:43 AM

2. Heart breaking





I am pretty sure an old friend of mine who works for the Newtown Bee took this photo

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:46 AM

4. God, that look on the face of the little girl

in blue just makes me physically ill.

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:46 AM

5. That just tears your heart open, doesn't it.

Little kids.

Innocence lost.

Being led out by cops. Unarmed cops. Concerned and gentle looking cops. But still cops. Hands on shoulders. A LOCK DOWN and subsequent EVACUATION. Being evacuated from their SCHOOL.

Because of some FUCKING NUT.

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:28 PM

11. Heartbreaking.

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:42 PM

39. And 18 of them will never grow up at all...

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Response to catbyte (Reply #39)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:51 PM

44. They'll grow up alright

But they will live with the scars from this episode forever. They'll never forget!

GUNS SUCK, that is all I have to say about it. They not only kill, they ruin lives forever!

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Response to happynewyear (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:11 PM

53. I was talking about the 18 that died.

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:50 PM

41. The heroes in that picture are the women. I am riveted by how they are keeping the kids together

Their faces are drawn but not out of control - they are competently, purposefully doing their job.

That's the face of true heroes folks. Real folks in real pressure doing the read deal with our kids.

The kids needed someone to tell them what to do, where to go, and keep them safe. That's what the three women in that photo are doing.

Tears here just looking at the multitude of emotions on the faces in this pic.

Really says a thousand things without a word.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:44 AM

3. theres a photo accompanying the Yahoo! story that

shows kids coming out single file, and there's a girl in a blue sweater who's face just broke my heart. She is traumatized. The bewildered terror on her face...
http://gma.yahoo.com/breaking-conn-school-district-locked-down-shooting-report-151955384--abc-news-topstories.html

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:50 AM

6. No problem. The NRA has a plan...

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Response to onehandle (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:55 AM

8. I would like to see the picture above made into a poster. Mail it to every NRA member we know.

This picture.

No caption needed. Just a date and place.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:53 AM

7. It would help to openly discuss the issue of guns in our society -- nationally and even on DU.

Instead, too many want to avoid it, or relegate the discussion to the gungeon where the 2nd Amendment supporters -- who conveniently misinterpret the Constitution -- tell us how important guns are to them and promote arming up.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:00 PM

9. I actually hate it

When General Discussion/LBN posts on news regarding shootings are moved to the Gun Forum. It's a huge problem in America and it does need to be discussed (I have a feeling that the pro-gunners are the ones that alert on these posts so they're hidden from the general DU population). People aren't thinking "Oh, there might be a bad guy with a gun today where I'm going." they're thinking about school, Christmas shopping, looking forward to movies and plays, etc etc.

It's so awful.

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Response to FunkyLeprechaun (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:17 PM

29. +1

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:38 PM

14. Yes, I agree

we do need to discuss this and the gun nuts need to be tombstoned or whatever they are called in DU3.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:28 PM

10. kick

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:32 PM

12. I am sitting here crying

While my kids are at school. I cannot even imagine the grief and trauma everyone involved is experiencing (and will continue to experience for the rest of their lives).

I have no words to express the depth of emotions I am feeling right now.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:37 PM

13. On ABC here in NY

they said that the 1 gunman was a parent of one of the kids in that school. A couple of minutes ago the police started running off into the woods behind the school (helicopter, live picture).

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:42 PM

15. OK...I'm going there. There has been a drastic cut in Mental health services

http://www.nami.org/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm?ContentFileID=126233
"One in 17 people in America lives with a serious mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, major
depression, or bipolar disorder.1 About one in 10 children live with a serious mental disorder.2
In recent years, the worst recession in the U.S. since the Great Depression has dramatically
impacted an already inadequate public mental health system. From 2009 to 2011, massive cuts to
non-Medicaid state mental health spending totaled nearly $1.6 billion dollars. And, deeper cuts are
projected in 2011 and 2012. States have cut vital services for tens of thousands of youth and adults
living with the most serious mental illness. These services include community and hospital based
psychiatric care, housing and access to medications."


Why would we cut known beneficial treatments for mentally-ill folks?I lay the blame straight on Ronald Reagan.
http://www.nhi.org/online/issues/135/reagan.html
http://www.sociology.org/content/vol003.004/thomas.html#thomas.html?&_suid=135550687386809765384678804698

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:44 PM

16. That's an excellent point . . . but may or may not relate to today's incident.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:03 PM

20. only

an insane person would do something like this. It fucking does relate!!!!! No doubt. What, a sane person did this. Is that what you mean and they are just pissed because their coffee was cold that morning, the car broke down, domestic argument? What do you mean, may or may not? Just a question.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:09 PM

23. Seems as if you may have had a coffee issue today.

Calm the fuck down, okay? My point is clear enough. FACTS matter. Your implication is an OPINION.

F A C T S are what matter when news stories are breaking.

Now get a grip.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:16 PM

28. you

don't tell me what to do. You find some intelligence and then get the fuck back to me. Take your waiting for facts and put that where to sun doesn't shine. You have the right name, your apologist attitude, stinks. You get a grip on reality.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:23 PM

32. Back away from the caffiene, pallie

I just DID tell you what to do. And by gosh, I just did it again.

You sure have a swell atitude.

And where did you serve in Viet Nam? When? What service? Where did you see action? Drafted or volunteered?

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:41 PM

37. Please turn off the TV

Step away for a while.

We are all upset.

This was an act of domestic terrorism.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:41 PM

38. Here, read this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021978363


"No facts are needed here."

Hahahahahaha

You have acquitted yourself well.

And say hi to coach.

Hahahahahaha

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:07 PM

22. Someone shooting children at an elementary school?

I guarantee you Mental Health is 100% related to today's incident,
and EVERY mass shooting.
Stable, functional human beings don't do that.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:23 PM

33. I'll agree Stinky, facts matter. It could be drugs, it could be terrorism, it could be mental health

but that's not the only option.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:55 PM

46. Very good point, at this time we have really no idea what caused this

person to go off.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:49 PM

17. Yes, we can thank St Reagan for that nt

 

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:12 PM

24. He truly launched this modern nightmare

of today's GOP and the seemingly neverending misery they have wrought.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:14 PM

27. I agree, the slide started with that piece of shit Reagan n/t

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:50 PM

42. That's when I recall most ot the shit in this country starting. He was an extremely crappy

president and tarnished the presidency. What surprises me are the fools that still worship him today.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #42)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:06 PM

52. They don't remember maybe

even Obama was a tad young to get the full brunt of it.. whenever he lauds him I think.. he must be doing that sarcastically.. or he doesn't understand. I will never forget the day he was elected and the sense of gloom anyone even mildly left felt at the time.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #52)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:57 PM

57. I was living in MA then and I recall many of the DJ's talking about it, and then especially

his trickle down economics ... and I think many of us even then did not realize in the beginning how dreadful and devastating he would be ... and to me, that was also the beginning of ME ME ME.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:14 PM

26. I have dealt with a mentally ill person in my family.

Unless you can prove that the person is a danger to themselves or others, there is very little the mental health provider can do. I'm not arguing against a good mental health policy in this country, but it doesn't stop mentally ill people from buying guns.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:40 PM

36. Ronald Reagan, IMO, was the most dangerous and worst president the US has ever had. The damage this

actor inflicted on this country will still linger for years. I always thought of him as very creepy, and even more creepy are those that still worship Reagan today.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:51 PM

18. "When I think

of the number of years, she is gonna have to carry in her memory,
the SAVAGERY of this idiotic little moment of yours,
I just go BERSERK!!" Billy Jack

"Human society is shot through and through with fear, jealousy, hatred, resentment, resistance, rebellion." Scott Nearing (I think, it may be John Ruskin)

"A world in which violence becomes normalized as part of the daily routine. The popular mind becomes softly inured to human degeneracy. 'Tobacco Road' and "Of Mice and Men' become popular dramas without exciting the faintest degree of public protest - except in traditional clerical circle - over the defilement which they spread." (Lewis Mumford)

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:51 PM

19. I'm swinging between despair and anger right now

What the fuck is going on?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:03 PM

21. Spreading American values overseas.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:13 PM

25. 26 Dead

26

I can't even verbally finish the count. Bam. . .bam. . .bam. . .bam. . .bam. . .

How could someone actually do this?




Can we finally talk about gun control NOW?

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Response to StrayKat (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:57 PM

47. This is HORRIFIC!!! Over 100 rounds fired a witness says -- I am in tears.

Seriously can't anything be done to ensure the safety of our elementary (elementary!!!) school kids??

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Response to StrayKat (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:13 PM

55. We have to at some point

we can't punt it along to discuss into the "future".

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:20 PM

31. I often wonder, is this the face of the NEW America. ... will be a great place to no longer

live IMO. Here, our city has an ordinance that prevents open carry, so our city is being sued because most of us think it's not necessary to walk around with six shooters and more strapped to ones sides. So, the will of the citizens in this city will probably be overturned by the state. What a moronic place to live.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:23 PM

34. Just another day that ends with a y

In America.

I hate that it's gotten to be so routine that I can almost pencil in my moment of outrage.
This is so wrong...

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:45 PM

40. I wonder

How many of the parents are staunch NRA republican tea baggers?

What do they think now?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:51 PM

43. I have NO answer

What have we, as a society, done to allow the loss of schools as a safe place for our children? ABC News points out this chilling statistic: There have been an estimated 31 school shootings since the shooting at Columbine in 1999.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:54 PM

45. This is awful!! I live in CT not that it matters. This happening anywhere is awful.

I can't stop crying on this one. Looking at those kids, who made it safely out, and what they must be thinking. How do they get over this?? And to those parents, friends, and loved ones who lost loved ones including their child -- my , our hearts and prayers are with you.


Everytime something like this happens we think this is the one that will get our leaders to do something.
How many more have to die like this??

DAMN IT CONGRESS AND WHITE HOUSE -- DO SOMETHING. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT WHATEVER YOU DO WON'T STOP THIS BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW IS NOT WORKING.

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Response to Filibuster Harry (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:58 PM

48. it will only be worse when the kids find out who died

it could be a teacher or a friend. There will have to be a lot of counseling here.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #48)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:03 PM

50. reportedly the principal and other administrators were killed too. Again so so very sad.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:00 PM

49. ... and didn't Batshit Michigan just make it legal to carry guns to school?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:03 PM

51. The Horror....The Horror

 

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:12 PM

54. YOU DON'T FUCKING KILL CHILDREN!!!!

What the fuck is it going to take for this country to get it's shit together?!?!?!? Is this enough now? Have enough innocents been gunned down?!?!? Have enough families been destroyed? FOR NOTHING! FUCK THE NRA AND ALL THE GUN NUTS OUT THERE! I can't stop crying

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Response to ThingsGottaChange (Reply #54)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:00 PM

58. Agree so much. For me, there are two things I'm really fed up with having shoved on me and

that's guns and religion.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #58)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:53 PM

61. This country would be an incalculably better place

with a lot less religion and a lot fewer guns.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #61)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:05 PM

62. It would, it definitely would be. As I've seen religion and guns grow in this country, the net/net

of it all IMO is a more unpleasant place.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:28 PM

56. K&R

The country weeps. I really would like to know how the NRA member/enthusiasts are felling right now? Has anyone known one of these freaks, personally? I haven't (thank God), but I would like to know just how they feel at this moment? Do they feel any guilt? Do they feel "Not my problem"? Are they worrying about their "2nd Amendment rights"... since they must know how the people in this country are feeling right now: GUN CONTROL NOW! GDit!

Suspect is: Ryan Lanza, age 24, from NJ. His mother is/was a teacher at the elementary school.
It looks like he shot his father in NJ, and then came to this school where his mother works. I imagine his mother is dead too, now, along with her class?????

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Response to ReRe (Reply #56)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:46 PM

59. Well, over in the gungeon some are pissed off because someone in the media

referred to the weapon as an assault rifle.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #59)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:45 PM

63. They split hairs over the description of it....

... and I say: a gun is a gun is a gun. All guns are assault weapons. Guns do not discriminate. Guns are psychopathic. Guns kill babies and guns kill teachers who teach the babies.

My Dear CrispyQ, I have a devilish feeling this afternoon. How do you think them over in the gungeon might react to what I said above? I'm going to sit here and hide behind this computer screen and see what happens....

Turn on MSNBC NOW... another presser coming up at the school...

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Response to ReRe (Reply #63)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:37 PM

64. Better wear body armor. -nt

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:48 PM

60. Well this is OBVIOUSLY why we need looser gun regulations in this country

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