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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:12 AM

For 20 yrs, corporate Dem leadership sipped lattes while the GOP took over state governments

Obama's reelection? The Democrats holding onto the Senate for the next two years? A few more House seats picked up in a GOP-controlled chamber?

Savor those victories, because with Michigan's passage of a right-to-work law, they might be the last major Democratic victories for a long time.

That's because with the cascade of right-to-work laws that will likely be passed in the majority of states within the next couple of years (maybe earlier), the cornerstone of crucial union-raised campaign contributions and on-the-ground people support which the Democratic party has relied on for the past 80 years will begin to see its end.

And this is happening partially because the Democratic centrist, Third Way leadership largely ignored the relatively unromantic state and local legislative races and instead concentrated resources on winning or holding onto federal-level seats in select swing states and blue states. This allowed the GOP to take the opportunity and win total state legislative majorities in Wisconsin and Michigan -- at the exact same time that both states elected Republican governors who take orders from the Koch brothers and ALEC. Democrats even ceded state government control of Alabama, Arkansas, and North Carolina to the Republicans -- states which haven't been controlled by the GOP since Reconstruction.

It's true that for 2012, party leadership has finally realized that it had to compete for some state governments if it wanted the national Democratic party to actually have some sort of future; Maine has reverted back to Democratic control, and New York has a Democratic-run Senate for the first time in 50 years. California now has a Democratic super-majority.

But it may be too late. Missouri's state government now has a GOP super-majority, and with it, the Republicans have veto-proof power to pass a Missouri "right-to-work" law over Gov. Jay Nixon.

With the eventual crushing loss of union dollars and ground support, what do you think the Democrats' future will look like? The corporate Democratic brain-trust should have considered that long before they gave moral support to the GOP's war on organized labor.

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Reply For 20 yrs, corporate Dem leadership sipped lattes while the GOP took over state governments (Original post)
brentspeak Dec 2012 OP
Scuba Dec 2012 #1
ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2012 #2
CrispyQ Dec 2012 #12
jsr Dec 2012 #3
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #6
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #4
leftstreet Dec 2012 #7
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #14
bvar22 Dec 2012 #16
leftstreet Dec 2012 #5
Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #8
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #15
KoKo Dec 2012 #9
bvar22 Dec 2012 #17
KoKo Dec 2012 #18
Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #10
KoKo Dec 2012 #11
jwirr Dec 2012 #13
KoKo Dec 2012 #19
jwirr Dec 2012 #20
ProSense Dec 2012 #21

Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:16 AM

1. Bingo, and it resulted in more R's going to Congress than D's, despite D's winning more votes...

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:16 AM

2. Not the first time, either.

about 30-40 years ago, they decided on a long term effort to take control over all aspects of politics.

They did heavy lifting, finding younger folks to run for local office, they trained them how to lie and not answer questions on TV, they gave them talking points.
They created think tanks (all right wing) and changed the conversation to concentrating on their view of the issues.
They went for school boards, moving the agendas to the right.

Throughout out all of this, the Ds slept.

Local and state govs are in trouble because of gerrymandering. All GOP controlled. School boards are rewriting history, screwing facts, and pushing GOP memes in the process. They have many experienced, trained people coming up the ranks to run for office. We are lucky to have a few with talent. But we don't cultivate, train, or invest in them. the GOP does.

Read about Adolph Coors and his partners. They began this movement in the early 70s.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:30 AM

12. You make some important points.

The GOP is not going away when a bunch of old white men die. There are plenty of young people with these attitudes! And with what they are doing to public education, there will continue to be young people who don't know better. In another thread some DUer implied that the war on women will disappear in a few years when these old guys die off.

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:18 AM

3. Excellent post

Many people have pointed this out and been largely ignored.

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Response to jsr (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:20 AM

6. yes, and why is it that? same reason that the state takeovers were ignored, i'd warrant.

 

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:19 AM

4. huge KR. but here's the thing: they *knew* what was happening. so you have to ask *why*

 

they ignored it.

we are in the middle of a perfect storm & i'm not sanguine about what may happen if it gains hurricane force with financial crises in the states.

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:21 AM

7. They don't want majorities. They want scapegoats n/t

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:48 AM

14. +1

 

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:09 PM

16. BINGO!!!!

"It was ALL Joe Lieberman's fault!"




"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone


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Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed



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not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:20 AM

5. DURec

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:24 AM

8. For any Democrat who has run for State level offices knows this already.

 

That is what I loved about Dean's, Fifty State Strategy. Every state is worth fighting for.

The Dem leadership has turned the party into a bottom up cult of personality and money siphoning machine and to hell with the local Dem candidates.

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:50 AM

15. +1. and forget about 'rallying the troops' and grassroots strategy for anything but the big

 

election & the money-siphoning. traditional winning democratic issues? not in the program.
combatting the propaganda at the grassroots? not in the program; in fact, democrats have adopted the *same* propaganda -- 'failing schools,' 'social security crisis,' etc.

the plan is narrow wins & losses by targeting increasingly small fractions of increasingly subdivided sections of the electorate. computerization makes it possible.

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:25 AM

9. This is true...but, so many here (good Dems) don't want to hear it.

Snatched up with focusing on the Top Down of the Dem party leaving unsupported the grassroots networks of folks who worked together and forged ties during Dean Era of the "Meet Ups," and Netroots Nation. It became all about getting Obama Elected again and more Blue Dogs or Repugs.

Redistricting which was challenged wasn't addressed by the DOJ when miniorites tried to bring lawsuits. Good Dems were lost and Repugs won their seats. Gerrymandering done in the dead of night by the Alec and Koch Brothers supported puppets.

It's very distressing.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:23 PM

17. Grass Roots Democratic Party movements get CRUSHED by the conservative Party Establishment.

SEE: Akansas Democratic Primary, 2010

The Democratic Party Grass Roots did EVERYTHING the Party leadership asked.
Organized LABOR joined with Pro-HealthCare advocates to replace Blue Dog, Anti-LABOR, Anti-Public Option, Wicked Witch of Arkansas, Blanche Lincoln with a popular Pro-LABOR, Pro-HealthCare DEMOCRAT, Democratic Lt Governor Bill Halter.

Democratic Lt Governor Halter was ahead of Lincoln in the early polls,
had the national backing and funds from LABOR, had an effective political machine with a proven record of winning elections, and had enthusiastic support from the Arkansas Grass Roots (YES! We DO exist!)
Guess what happened?

The woman who was running as the one who derailed "Big Government Takeover of HealthCare received an Oval Office Endorsement from President Obama.
He even sent Bill Clinton back to Arkansas to save Lincoln's failing campaign.

Adding insult to injury, "an anonymous White House Spokesman" ridiculed Organized LABOR for supporting a Pro-LABOR challenger in a Democratic Primary.

It will be a LONG time before LABOR and the Grass Roots in Arkansas forget this Beat Down from the Democratic Party leadership.



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone


photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Response to bvar22 (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:32 PM

18. Good Point there..hope people will take time to read it. n/t

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:25 AM

10. K&R The Democratic Party has about 14 months to figure this out.

 

Of course, that assumes that they want to remain relevant. Rest assured that if it doesn't work out, it will be the voters fault.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:27 AM

11. ain't that the truth....Is there a "will there...to find a way." n/t

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:38 AM

13. I think that Democrats have been wearing blinders - not just elected Democrats but all the rest of

us. We have ignored that this is a changed world since raygun and the disaster capitalism started functioning in the USA. We think that the other side is playing fair and they are counting on that idea. When we start fighting back with a full knowledge that this is truly war then we will get out there and vote and volunteer for our candidates not just in the general elections but also in the primaries.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:33 PM

19. The FUTURE will come to US...in one way or the other...is what I think.....n/t

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Response to KoKo (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:44 AM

20. So stand back and watch? Sorry I was born in 1941 and I have seen to many changes take place

because I and others did something about a problem. I will not stand back.

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Response to brentspeak (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:48 AM

21. Republicans reap the fruits of redistricting

Don't forget the 2010 election. A lot of what we're seeing in Michigan, Wisconsin and a few other states was made possible by the outcome of that election.

Republicans reap the fruits of redistricting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021971150

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