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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:28 AM

KRUGMAN: "We are at a strange and dangerous place in American political life.”

“This is not a negotiation in the normal sense, in which each side makes proposals and they dicker over the details; instead, Republicans are demanding that Obama read their minds and produce a proposal they’ll like. And Obama won’t do that, for good reason: he knows that they’ll just pronounce themselves unsatisfied with whatever he comes up with, and are indeed very likely to campaign in 2014 attacking him for whatever cuts take place.

But then, should we be surprised? Remember that all the Republican budget “plans” of recent years—very much including the Ryan plan—have been built largely out of magic asterisks

We are at a strange and dangerous place in American political life.”

MORE:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/party-of-no-ideas/

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Reply KRUGMAN: "We are at a strange and dangerous place in American political life.” (Original post)
kpete Dec 2012 OP
byeya Dec 2012 #1
meow2u3 Dec 2012 #4
n2doc Dec 2012 #2
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #3
ProSense Dec 2012 #5
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #6
ProSense Dec 2012 #8
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #7

Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:35 AM

1. The leadership of the RepubliKKKan party is behaving as if temporarily insane and you cannot

 

bargain with the insane. You can however make them do what they're told and the President needs to tell them what's going to happen and if they stand in the way, tell them, like LBJ was famous for doing, what will happen in their districts and states. The election is over and it's nut-cutting time.

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Response to byeya (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:39 PM

4. The RepubliKKKan party is crazy, all right--crazy like a fox!

Their "insanity" is nothing but an act, designed to turn the United States into a totalitarian regime that would make Hitler's, Stalin's, and Mao's look like little kids playing tag by comparison.

DUers--DO NOT be fooled by the GOP crazy act. They know exactly what they're doing. They're not batshit crazy--they're monsters putting on an act to make us think they're nuts.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:41 AM

2. No, the republicans aren't asking Obama to read their minds

They are asking him to shoot himself in the foot. ANY spending cuts that he proposes will be campaigned against by the Repubs. They are just hoping that he repeats his mistake of 2011 and proposes raising medicare eligibility ages and cutting SS increases. Then they can run back home and say "see! That horrible Obama wants to cut your medicare and Social Security!"


I just hope Obama has the spine to resist those calling for him to fall into this trap again. Many pundits already are trying to push him into doing so, even to the point of making crap up.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:34 PM

3. Superlative comment

Fred Dorbsky
Louisville, KY

Obama is still being way too timid with the rhetoric. The Republicans seem to be getting a lot more sound bites on the news. I find it very frustrating that the Obama administration is somewhat silent and passive with the truth while the Republicans are vociferous and aggressive with their lies.

...

The Republicans are in high campaign mode, attempting to set up the Democrats to blame for cuts. It's the Republicans who want cuts, not the Democrats, so the Democrats should make the Republicans propose any and all budget cuts, and then should vehemently attack the Republican proposed cuts.


Sing it, brother Fred

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:43 PM

5. Superlative?

"The Republicans seem to be getting a lot more sound bites on the news. "

That's like saying more Republicans are on the Sunday shows. Breaking: The GOP media shills are at it again.

"The Republicans are in high campaign mode, attempting to set up the Democrats to blame for cuts."

The person seems to believe in the all powerful GOP.

Republicans have nothing, and the every poll shows that not only will the public blame them, but also that the President's positions resonate with voters, including Republicans

What Third Way, Wall Street FAIL looks like
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021963681

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Response to ProSense (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:56 PM

6. This should be the mantra of every Dem, every day

and as usual the Repukes are out-talking the WH and Pelosi and Reid. Of course the wingers have the media monopoly. But if the president would take a firm anti-benefit cut stance (sounds like Pelosi and Durbin have finally talked him into that position) , and say, every day, that Boner has not made a single firm proposal (bring Cantor and Ryan into it too), the media would have to cover it, at least in the headlines.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:07 PM

8. "as usual the Repukes are out-talking the WH and Pelosi and Reid"

Seriously, on what planet?

Pelosi throws it back at Boehner, asks GOP to clarify tax hikes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021962253

Nancy Pelosi: "don’t even think about raising Medicare age"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021971920

OMG - Reid just spanked McConnell!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021937851

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:03 PM

7. I disagree with you. The president is doing "fireside chats" and speaking directly to the American

people. (This is what many complained that he wasn't doing enough of. He does it, and people are STILL angry! SIGH!)

Anyway, Pelosi has been on fire. And Democrats are putting their collective foot down that the Big Three are OFF the table.

Poll after poll shows that Republicans will be blamed for the fiscal cliff.

The recent PEW Research Poll (released yesterday) showed that only 30% of Americans have a favorable view of Republicans, while over 40% have favorable view of Democrats.

I don't think Obama is being timid at all. I think people are just quick to blame the president no matter what he does. They are just so used to complaining that nothing he does will ever be enough. NOTHING!

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