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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:45 AM

Human rights court: CIA beat and sodomized wrongly detained German citizen

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/13/human-rights-court-cia-beat-and-sodomized-wrongly-detained-german-citizen/



Human rights court: CIA beat and sodomized wrongly detained German citizen
By Richard Norton-Taylor, The Guardian
Thursday, December 13, 2012 19:54 EST

CIA agents tortured a German citizen, sodomising, shackling, and beating him, as Macedonian state police looked on, the European court of human rights said in a historic judgment released on Thursday.

In a unanimous ruling, it also found Macedonia guilty of torturing, abusing, and secretly imprisoning Khaled el-Masri, a German of Lebanese origin allegedly linked to terrorist organisations.

Masri was seized in Macedonia in December 2003 and handed over to a CIA “rendition team” at Skopje airport and secretly flown to Afghanistan.

It is the first time the court has described CIA treatment meted out to terror suspects as torture.

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Reply Human rights court: CIA beat and sodomized wrongly detained German citizen (Original post)
unhappycamper Dec 2012 OP
aandegoons Dec 2012 #1
BainsBane Dec 2012 #5
Fumesucker Dec 2012 #9
BainsBane Dec 2012 #10
Fumesucker Dec 2012 #11
xchrom Dec 2012 #2
Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #3
peacebird Dec 2012 #4
srichardson Dec 2012 #6
Genghis_Sean Dec 2012 #7
Selatius Dec 2012 #8
rhett o rick Dec 2012 #12
hootinholler Dec 2012 #16
rhett o rick Dec 2012 #23
ReRe Dec 2012 #13
ReRe Dec 2012 #14
Marrah_G Dec 2012 #15
Ian62 Dec 2012 #17
ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #19
Ian62 Dec 2012 #20
madokie Dec 2012 #18
Enrique Dec 2012 #21
Solly Mack Dec 2012 #22
eppur_se_muova Dec 2012 #24
Festivito Dec 2012 #25
DeSwiss Dec 2012 #26

Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:49 AM

1. The enabler in chief says don't look back.

He has some dope smoking granny to go after instead.

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Response to aandegoons (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:09 AM

5. Who is that?

The President?

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:52 AM

9. ...

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:59 AM

10. quick on the draw aren't you?

That was only four years ago.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:52 AM

11. Justice delayed is justice denied

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:52 AM

2. Du rec. Nt

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:58 AM

3. Just another day in the Evil Empire. n/t

 

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:08 AM

4. Are we going to prosecute the sick SOBs who did this in our names? I am pretty sure even

the "enhanced interrogation techniques" do not call out sodomizing someone as a protocol....

sigh. Don't bother answering. We all know we won't.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:31 AM

6. What the FUCK!

I say it is time to look back. If true, this goes way, way beyond torture and anyone who even tries to justify this is an absolute moron.
God help us all if sodomy is an "acceptable" form of tortute by wingnuts or any other human. I always ask myself, Would I treat my own child that way? If the answer is no, then the aanswer is no!

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:42 AM

7. sheesh

God Bless America.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:46 AM

8. Let's do nothing about this war crime.

I'm just taking my cue from the Democrats in power. Obama isn't down for war crimes trials, and neither are Democrats in Congress.

Let's just pretend it never happened and move on. There will be no war crimes trials.

Bam. Done. Never happened.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:57 AM

12. The President is the most powerful man on the planet. But he wouldnt have

that power without the backing of the CIA. IMO the CIA told him when he got elected, not to mess with them. I believe Pres Obama is an honest man and would love to go after Bush and Cheney for torture, but I also believe he is pragmatic. It might be a fight he cant win.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:35 AM

16. Sometimes honor demands you fight even when you can't win.

NGU!

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:52 PM

23. I agree. At some point we will be forced to do that or become slaves. nm

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:09 AM

13. "An injustice anywhere...

...is an injustice everywhere." ~MLK, Jr. Every time we turn our heads to an injustice, the act of turning insures that that injustice will be repeated. A great injustice was done both here and abroad during the 8 yrs of the Bush-Cheney cabal. Not one person was held accountable for the horrible legacy they left behind. Not one person has been held accountable for the Wall Street debauchal. And think what an impression this leaves in the psyches of our children. It's no wonder there's so much bullying in our schools. I really don't know that we can lay the drone business directly on POs shoulders. Don't we all know that the MIC more or less runs this country? It's definitely where half or more of the money goes. We have drones, because the MIC has never been held accountable. It's the elephant in the attic that no one can see.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:20 AM

14. Oh Yeah...

K&R

... and it's so Orwellianicly ironic that the motto at the CIA is "The truth shall set you free." Yeah right, if the American People were allowed to know the truth of what they (the CIA) have done in our name for the last some 60 yrs. Yeah.. most of us here on DU know, but the majority of the general public does not.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:21 AM

15. No one will ever pay for it

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:15 AM

17. John Pilger on Barack Obama and the CIA

 



There is no doubt that PNAC's neocon agenda has continued unabated under Obama.

The neocon agenda, PNAC published in 1997, called for regime change in 6 countries by force. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, Lebanon & Jordan.

Iraq was done under GW Bush.

Libya was done by Obama (installing an Islamic Extremist government in the process.)

Syria in progress (the rebels in the Free Syrian Army also contain a high proportion of Islamic Extremists). The rebels are being openly armed by Saudi Arabia. Libyan weapons including shoulder held ground to air missile launchers have found their way into Syria.

Aggression against Iran continues.

Lebanon and Jordan are being destabilised by events in Syria, so PNAC's agenda in those countries is being progressed as well.

Is it the intention of US Foreign Policy to replace all secular Middle East regimes with Islamic Extremist ones?

If it is not the intention, it is the effective result and these people are not idiots.

Look at what has happened in Egypt and Libya.

The second theme to the neocon agenda is to reduce civil liberties and increase surveillance on American citizens.
This agenda too continues to be expanded under Barack Obama.

Barack Obama extended the Patriot Act and signed NDAA.
NDAA repeals Posse Comitatus allowing the military to operate on the streets of US cities.
NDAA expands the "battlefield" to include the United States.
NDAA codifies the indefinite detention provisions already made available in the Patriot Act.

The surveillance state has dramatically ramped up under Obama. All US emails are being collected. Along with a sizeable proportion of mobile phone convo's, internet searches and Facebook / twitter activity. These measures are primarily designed to provide ammunition to discredit or actually charge anyone who dissents against the government in the future. They are NOT anti terrorism measures. The DHS has now started spying on public buses.
Barack Obama is already the most active and authoritarian President ever, in cracking down and harassing any whistle blowers who speak up about the US governments activities.

The whole thing is an incredible waste of taxpayer money apart from the civil liberties issues.

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Response to Ian62 (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:03 AM

19. Your post is not getting any response. I'd like to see what others have

to say about this. Perhaps you could make it an OP?

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:50 AM

20. OK I will do that

 

nm

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:31 AM

18. Obama can't go after the war criminals who brought us this present crop of torturers

because its enough that he's breaking new ground. If he had tried he would have been rode out of the white house on a rail.
We're still a very racist country after all.

What I'm getting at is the glass ceiling of the white house has been broken and President Obama and us who put him there are who did it. The old white mans presidential club has been crashed. The Presidency will never be again a position only an old white man is allowed. I remember when Kennedy was elected the OWMPC went nuts cause he was too young according to them. They questioned his experience from the word go and never let up until they finally assassinated him. They survived that but i don't think they can survive haveing a black man as President.
I predict the next President will be a woman. I'm going to try to hold out long enough to see that as its been a dream of mine forever.

For the record I'm an old white male

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:53 AM

21. we need to be more careful who we sodomize

we want to be sure we are sodomizing the right people.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:54 AM

22. No doubt it was "good faith" sodomy.

Ain't America proud!



...and it would not matter if he had been 'rightly' detained. It is still wrong/illegal/ a war crime/ a crime against humanity to use torture.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:56 AM

24. Sodomizing them over there so we don't have to sodomize them here.

Oh wait ... it was over there.

Never mind !

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:37 AM

25. European court of human rights in France I take it.

www.echr.coe.int
European court of human rights

I could not find it on their website using google and I was not persistent.


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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:04 AM

26. K&R

''But whenever we see things done wildly, but taken tamely, then the State is growing insane...'' - Gilbert Keith Chesterton

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