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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:31 AM

I do not believe that the President abandoned Susan Rice as pointed out by

Dan Rather and Andrea Greenspan on Rachel's show. I believe that she did volunteer to withdraw for consideration. They are trying to say that the administration left her hanging and that democratic women in the senate and house are upset about it. If they can not name a source, then do not throw out these "high level" people they supposedly talked to. The bottom line is that she was railroaded by three miscreants from the GOP: McCain, Graham and Ayotte.

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mfcorey1 Dec 2012 OP
spanone Dec 2012 #1
Cha Dec 2012 #2
ProSense Dec 2012 #3
Cha Dec 2012 #5
freshwest Dec 2012 #19
bluestateguy Dec 2012 #4
Cha Dec 2012 #6
mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #8
freshwest Dec 2012 #18
sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #7
MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #9
sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #11
dkf Dec 2012 #16
dkf Dec 2012 #17
backscatter712 Dec 2012 #10
Cha Dec 2012 #12
davidpdx Dec 2012 #13
snot Dec 2012 #14
mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #22
ReRe Dec 2012 #15
solara Dec 2012 #20
malaise Dec 2012 #21

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:34 AM

1. don't. forget the 'moderate' susan collins

moderate. my ass

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:37 AM

2. Of course, PBO didn't.. Susan Rice knows he didn't but

mediawhores think he did.. go figure.

"Why I made the right call"


Finally, I have a great job. Itís been my highest honor to serve as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. Iím proud that President Obama has restored our global stature, refocused on the greatest threats to our security and advanced our values around the world
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/susan-rice-my-withdrawal-from-secretary-of-state-consideration-was-right-call/2012/12/13/ad69b3fc-4578-11e2-9648-a2c323a991d6_story.html

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:38 AM

3. Rice wasn't even nominated.

She was rumored to be under consideration. None of these people know jack shit about what the President is thinking in terms of making an appointment to his cabinet.

Ridiculous.



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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:41 AM

5. But, they're up there like pompous

asshole acting like they know shit and hope people are dumb enough to lap up every word.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:52 AM

19. Typical. And the blame Obama without any facts crowd will jump on is like White on Rice.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:41 AM

4. The Blame Obama First crowd won't hear of it

Maybe, just maybe, it was Rice who abandoned herself. No evidence from any source who has gone on record has even suggested that she was pushed out.

Obama was willing to fight for her, but she has to be willing to fight for herself too. Maybe she was not willing to do that.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:44 AM

6. Here's how she felt about it..

"Why I made the right call"

Finally, I have a great job. Itís been my highest honor to serve as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. Iím proud that President Obama has restored our global stature, refocused on the greatest threats to our security and advanced our values around the world.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/susan-rice-my-withdrawal-from-secretary-of-state-consideration-was-right-call/2012/12/13/ad69b3fc-4578-11e2-9648-a2c323a991d6_story.html

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 AM

8. I am kind of pissed that Rachel did not challenge their statements more. She seemed

happy to have them on her show.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:50 AM

18. The network picks the guests and hosts. She can go along or she can go out the door. That simple.

She has no more control of her program that Ed does with some of those buffoons he's ordered to have on than any of them.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:45 AM

7. I hope he did. I would respect him a lot if he abandoned her. She would be a terrible SOS.

I'm hoping, as someone else said, that he realized how bad she is for such a powerful role for this country. Check out her record in Africa eg.

It would be to his credit if he let her go and replaced her with a someone who didn't excuse every Bush lie about Iraq, and who didn't support and protect African dictators. I never liked her from way back because she never seemed like a Democrat to me.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 AM

9. Are you saying Obama didn't know her record when he picked her to be Amb. to the UN?

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:58 AM

11. I have no idea whether he did or not, but it is a terrible record. .

I've always thought that Rice was a Clinton choice which he agreed to in exchange for their support after the election.

Her record on Africa is atrocious eg. See Rwanda eg, and her role in that tragedy during the Clinton years, and then later her support for African Dictators even when people in the State Dept disagreed with her. I was very disappointed that he brought her into his administration.

Otoh, it's possible he knows all about her and likes her. I would prefer to think that is not the case.



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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:41 AM

16. Nope...Rice jumped ship to Obama. She is not a Hillary pick.

 

Hillary prefers Kerry.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:43 AM

17. Agree... She is much more apt to get us involved in adventures than Kerry.

 

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 AM

10. I think they made the decision together.

I'm sure the President feels terrible about it, and wanted Rice, but this sounds like a situation where tactically, it was time to make a hard decision to pick one's battles.

And my bet is that Rice agreed that the Obama administration has bigger fish to fry.

I'm guessing that Obama may bring Rice in as a national security advisor - good way to thumb his nose at McCain, as that particular appointment doesn't require Senate approval.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:24 AM

12. Oh it doesn't require Senate approval? good to know.. thanks backscatter

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:33 AM

13. I totally agree with you on that one

I hope he does it and it pisses the Republicans off.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:01 AM

14. Guess what: I don't f'ing care whether Obama is a good guy or a bad guy.

All I care about is, does he do the job:

1. Election reform. Without that, we got nothing.
2. Media reform. Ditto.
3. Edu. So far, not good.
4. All kinds of other impt. sh*t, like internet control, the environment, basic civil rights as per the Constitution such as the First and Fourth Amendments -- Ditto (so far, not good.)

Granted, the Repubs are worse; but when are we going to start pushing the margins of discussion back toward reality?


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Response to snot (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:48 AM

22. Just like this op expressed my feelings, the arena is open for you to speak out about

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your list. Don't complain, but lead the charge. DU has an open forum.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:31 AM

15. Don't quite get why Rachel has Dan on so often....

MSNBC requirement? I used to really like Dan when he was on CBS, but don 't have any use for him anymore. I flip the channel while he is on, and then come back after he's gone. And I never watch Andrea Greenspan Mitchell. Ever. And I don't agree with either of their opinions on the Susan Rice-PO issue. I thought PO handled it perfectly in that first presser after the election. Dayammm, the man is busy, for Pete's sake. He didn't take the winger bait, that's what he didn't do. And in the end, I think the wingers screwed themselves on the whole thing... After the election, the wingers were emaciated, morally. But they had to stand up and cause a stink over something so their gullible audience/base would see them as doing something productive.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:51 AM

20. Hear! Hear!

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:42 AM

21. Dan Rather lost me when he was busy hedging his bet over Obama and Rmoney

HE said it was going to be very close.

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