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Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:09 PM

Attn. Gen's Office Sides with Cartels and Criminal Banks vs. American Citizens

Let there be no mistake about it.

The fucking drug war is over. NO ONE in the ATTN. Gen's office has ANY CREDIBILITY TO GO AFTER ANYONE IN THIS NATION AFTER THIS BULLSHIT DEAL TO PROTECT DRUG BANKERS AND THEIR CLIENTS WHILE STUDENTS LOSE VOTING RIGHTS AND STUDENT LOAN RIGHTS FOR POSSESSING A JOINT.

Any cop who arrests anyone on a drug charge is colluding with drug dealers and terrorists to make the world safe for them to lie, murder, steal and whatever the fuck else they want to do with impunity.

If you have to arrest a cancer patient, or shut down the clinic that denies that person medicine, while you let the bankers and terrorists go - WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?

As Tiabbi notes on his blog post:

Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213#ixzz2Ez1w5YAP

Assistant Attorney General and longtime Bill Clinton pal Lanny Breuer... signed off on a settlement deal with the British banking giant HSBC that is the ultimate insult to every ordinary person who's ever had his life altered by a narcotics charge. Despite the fact that HSBC admitted to laundering billions of dollars for Colombian and Mexican drug cartels (among others) and violating a host of important banking laws (from the Bank Secrecy Act to the Trading With the Enemy Act), Breuer and his Justice Department elected not to pursue criminal prosecutions of the bank, opting instead for a "record" financial settlement of $1.9 billion, which as one analyst noted is about five weeks of income for the bank.

...When you decide not to prosecute bankers for billion-dollar crimes connected to drug-dealing and terrorism (some of HSBC's Saudi and Bangladeshi clients had terrorist ties, according to a Senate investigation), it doesn't protect the banking system, it does exactly the opposite.

...the executives who spent a decade laundering billions of dollars will have to partially defer their bonuses during the five-year deferred prosecution agreement? Are you fucking kidding me? That's the punishment? The government's negotiators couldn't hold firm on forcing HSBC officials to completely wait to receive their ill-gotten bonuses? They had to settle on making them "partially" wait? Every honest prosecutor in America has to be puking his guts out at such bargaining tactics. What was the Justice Department's opening offer asking executives to restrict their Caribbean vacation time to nine weeks a year?


In the meantime, asset forteiture laws make sure people lose money WHEN THEY DIDN'T EVEN COMMIT A FUCKING CRIME.

Go read the link - read about the guy in Indiana who lost his own money because he was carrying cash, even tho he could document a chain of provenance to prove it was not drug money.

Read about the kids in NYC who get put into the criminal justice system for possession in urban areas while suburban kids get stoned in the jacuzzi out back.

FUCK THIS SHIT.

TIME TO STOP THIS BULLSHIT. NOW.

The Federal Govt has no moral authority anymore regarding the so-called "War on Drugs." Close up the DEA, send home the Drug Czars. The Drug War is over because you can't be on the side of the so-called enemy and then treat citizens as though they are worse than terrorists.

BUY A CLUE, Democrats. You will alienate the entire youth vote and the majority of the Democratic vote if you don't stop this bullshit NOW. This story is all over the web. People who vote for Democrats know about this issue.

So, you decide, Democrats. Are you going to be just as corrupt as Bush and his uncle the money-launderer for Pinochet the student-killer (who, oh, yeah, was Milton Friedman's wet dream) or are you going to realize that you will lose if you keep fucking with American citizens?

We're waiting.

I am pissed.


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Octafish Dec 2012 #2
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Octafish Dec 2012 #9
upi402 Dec 2012 #4
RainDog Dec 2012 #6
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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:21 PM

1. Kicking

cause, honestly, no one can give the administration a pass if they use the AG office to harass citizens abiding by the laws of their state. Not with this sort of bullshit going on among the "elite" who, apparently, can kill people but IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THEY'RE RICH.

(insert sarcasm emoticon here)

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:32 PM

2. $22 Billion in Profits for HSBC in 2011. Less than $2 Billion in Fines for MONEY LAUNDERING.

THIS SHOULD HAVE 500 RECS.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:34 PM

3. If someone wants CHANGE they have to demand it

If they aren't RICH CORRUPT FUCKS WHO ARE ALREADY EXPLOITING THE MIDDLE CLASS.

I AM SICK OF AMERICAN FEUDALISM.

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Response to RainDog (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:51 AM

9. What Corporate McPravda fail to report: The Class War is a shooting war.

JFK. MLK. RFK. And many, many, many more good people who stood up the lords of the manor.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:18 PM

4. kick

And not only did they sell out to drug dealers, they sold out cheap. You'll hear bragging this week by the Obama administration that they wrested a record penalty from HSBC, but it's a joke. Some of the penalties involved will literally make you laugh out loud. This is from Breuer's announcement:

As a result of the government's investigation, HSBC has . . . "clawed back" deferred compensation bonuses given to some of its most senior U.S. anti-money laundering and compliance officers, and agreed to partially defer bonus compensation for its most senior officials during the five-year period of the deferred prosecution agreement.

Wow. So the executives who spent a decade laundering billions of dollars will have to partially defer their bonuses during the five-year deferred prosecution agreement? Are you fucking kidding me? That's the punishment?

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213#ixzz2EzK2ruOw
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Response to upi402 (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:53 PM

6. 5 Weeks of Profit for a Decade of OPEN money laundering

for the big drug cartels.

and, yeah, partial DEFERMENT of their fucking bonuses. For PROFITS MADE OFF OF DRUGS BUT IT'S OKAY B/C THEY'RE RICH.

This is REPULSIVE.

Again, anyone who is sentenced for any drug crime should ask for the same proportionate deal - 5 weeks of profit on their business and deferment of their bonuses (if they get any) from their work.

I wish someone would start a petition at the WhiteHouse site to ask that all drug offenders get punishment that is proportionate to the crime - this would actually mean that the courts should pay any person in court some money just to bring them up to the most basic measure of the criminality the Attn Gen's office is letting these assholes walk away from BECAUSE THEY'RE RICH.

They are pushing people away and they're gonna lose the fight anyway.

This is why I have never really cared for Biden. Let him prove me wrong, that's he's not a clueless drug warrior.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:50 PM

5. That's absolutely nauseating.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:42 AM

7. K&fuckingR! Despicable. nt

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:24 AM

8. K&R

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:22 AM

10. Eric Holder: busts medical marijuana dispensaries

but lets his rich buddies at HSBC walk.

Eric Holder is shameful. And so is the President as long as he lets this conservative piece of shit remain as his AG.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:23 AM

11. Incredible. Divine-right criminality. K&R

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:11 PM

12. Kicker - This is big.

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