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Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:52 AM

Need some quick help with 'Right To Work'...arguing with teabagger

Friends, I need some quick links to counter a claim that right to work states are doing just fine with happy workers.

I'm saying of course they're doing just fine, they're freeloading off of the union states. But I thought I heard something about the RTW states not doing that great statistically and I need links to that info as quickly as possible.

Can anybody help?

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Reply Need some quick help with 'Right To Work'...arguing with teabagger (Original post)
navarth Dec 2012 OP
Scuba Dec 2012 #1
navarth Dec 2012 #2
datasuspect Dec 2012 #3
navarth Dec 2012 #9
KansDem Dec 2012 #4
meow2u3 Dec 2012 #5
plcdude Dec 2012 #6
n2doc Dec 2012 #7
jody Dec 2012 #8
navarth Dec 2012 #10
rustydog Dec 2012 #11
Brickbat Dec 2012 #12
navarth Dec 2012 #13

Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:01 PM

1. Sure, here's a link ...


http:www.lmgtfy.com/?q=income in right to work states

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Response to Scuba (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:06 PM

2. Thanks, I can google myself

I was trying to do it quick. Thanks anyway.

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Response to navarth (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:12 PM

3. what is quicker than google?

 

waiting for DUers to post links?

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:20 PM

9. research goes faster with a little help from friends

If you don't want that, just ignore me. It's quite simple. I've asked for a quick help before and was never given a hard time.

I did not intend to offend anybody.

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Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:17 PM

4. This might help...

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/03/05/148930/top-five-things-unions/?mobile=nc

In summary--
1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend
2. Unions Gave Us Fair Wages And Relative Income Equality
3. Unions Helped End Child Labor
4. Unions Won Widespread Employer-Based Health Coverage
5. Unions Spearheaded The Fight For The Family And Medical Leave Act

If right to work states have happy workers, they can thank the unions...

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Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:22 PM

5. Lakoff said it best. He calls it corporate servitude laws

In other words, he's strongly suggesting we reframe the debate to make union busting out to be the backdoor legalization of servitude it is.

Tell this RWNJ that the so-called "right to work" laws will do nothing but allow bosses to rob him of his dignity and reduce him to little more than a slave.

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Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:43 PM

7. This was posted earlier

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Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:09 PM

8. Right To Work and poverty.

 

Table 4. People in Poverty by State Using 3-Year Averages Over 20091, 20101, and 2011óCon reports 48,423 people below the poverty level. http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/p60-244.pdf

Using that government report one finds:

58% of those in poverty live in states without a right-to-work law.

42% of those in poverty live in states with a right-to-work law.

Poverty rate for non right to work states is 15.6 per 100,000

Poverty rate for right to work states is 15.5 per 100,000

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Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:27 PM

10. Thank you all. nt

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Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:35 PM

11. Texas is a right to work state

Texas takes in from Uncle sam about $ 1.69 for very dollar they send to the US treasury.
Texas is a right to work welfare state living off of my tax dollar.

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Response to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:34 PM

13. Good stuff, thank you all.

These posts, along with my own researches took very good care of this current episode of my ongoing argument.

It's all on the local level now. These bastards have made my wonderful state a laughing stock. They've got me seriously pissed at them now, and I'm not alone.

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