Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:25 PM
superpatriotman (497 posts)
Plot to castrate, kill Justin Bieber foiled!
http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/cops-nm-men-plotted-to-kill-bieber
Investigators say two would-be hit men from Albuquerque may have had their sights set on the teen mega star; Justin Bieber.
They had it planned down to the ties they were going to use to strangle to the pop star and three other people. A warning, the details are pretty graphic. Justin Bieber played for a sold out house just a few weeks at Madison Square Garden in New York City. That’s where investigators say Mark Staake and his nephew Tanner Ruane planned to take down the teen sensation. Turns out their Bieber fever started long ago, at the state prison near Las Cruces. That’s where Staake met Dana Martin, a convicted killer serving two life sentences for raping and killing a 15-year-old girl in Vermont, in 2000. Martin recruited Staake who in turn recruited his nephew to carry out four murders after Staake got out of prison. Cops say Martin asked the two to first go to Vermont and take out two former acquaintances. He gave strict orders to strangle the victims with a paisley tie, the kind Martin used as his calling card, and here is where things get grisly. Tanner Ruane was in charge of castrating the victims. Martin told cops there was a bigger plot, the murder and castration of Bieber and his bodyguard. Turns out Martin is obsessed with Bieber and KRQE News 13 has learned he's even got a tattoo of the superstar on his leg. Staake was arrested in Vermont on outstanding warrants before carrying out any of the killings, but his nephew was let go. Cops recorded phone calls where Ruane, who made it to New York, tells Martin he's disappointed he couldn't carry out the murders. New York police arrested Ruane, who had murder tools and pruning shears with him. KRQE News 13 tried to contact Justin Bieber's representatives Tuesday, but did not get a call back. Martin actually turned in Staake and Ruane and for some mysterious reason foiled the plot he cooked up.
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| superpatriotman | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| tularetom | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| Warren Religion | Dec 2012 | #25 | |
| Cleita | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| BainsBane | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| murielm99 | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| Cleita | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| white_wolf | Dec 2012 | #28 | |
| bhikkhu | Dec 2012 | #30 | |
| white_wolf | Dec 2012 | #32 | |
| bhikkhu | Dec 2012 | #42 | |
| Cleita | Dec 2012 | #43 | |
| Inspired | Dec 2012 | #51 | |
| white_wolf | Dec 2012 | #52 | |
| liberalhistorian | Dec 2012 | #45 | |
| Cleita | Dec 2012 | #48 | |
| Bucky | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| DJ13 | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| dembotoz | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
| slackmaster | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| pinboy3niner | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| graywarrior | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| ErikJ | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
| graywarrior | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
| cherokeeprogressive | Dec 2012 | #23 | |
| lob1 | Dec 2012 | #33 | |
| graywarrior | Dec 2012 | #44 | |
| JHB | Dec 2012 | #36 | |
| liberalhistorian | Dec 2012 | #46 | |
| JHB | Dec 2012 | #35 | |
| MrSlayer | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| frogmarch | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
| NealK | Dec 2012 | #19 | |
| bhikkhu | Dec 2012 | #29 | |
| MicaelS | Dec 2012 | #53 | |
| MrSlayer | Dec 2012 | #54 | |
| ErikJ | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| -..__... | Dec 2012 | #17 | |
| NealK | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| ChairmanAgnostic | Dec 2012 | #40 | |
| NCTraveler | Dec 2012 | #47 | |
| Bake | Dec 2012 | #18 | |
| nomorenomore08 | Dec 2012 | #37 | |
| backscatter712 | Dec 2012 | #39 | |
| Bake | Dec 2012 | #50 | |
| edbermac | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| Behind the Aegis | Dec 2012 | #22 | |
| Scootaloo | Dec 2012 | #26 | |
| Lady Freedom Returns | Dec 2012 | #24 | |
| dballance | Dec 2012 | #27 | |
| TwilightGardener | Dec 2012 | #31 | |
| njcamden_25884 | Dec 2012 | #34 | |
| nomorenomore08 | Dec 2012 | #38 | |
| Ganja Ninja | Dec 2012 | #41 | |
| nomorenomore08 | Dec 2012 | #55 | |
| zellie | Dec 2012 | #49 |
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:29 PM
tularetom (17,396 posts)
1. There are so many responses I could make to this post
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but I think I will refrain from doing so.
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Response to tularetom (Reply #1)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:23 AM
Warren Religion (70 posts)
25. I know
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Talk about mixed feelings!
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:29 PM
Cleita (64,526 posts)
2. What do people have against this poor kid!
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He's an entertainer, nothing more, nothing less.
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Response to Cleita (Reply #2)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:34 PM
BainsBane (9,455 posts)
4. who is obviously a target for pederasts.
Response to Cleita (Reply #2)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:19 PM
murielm99 (12,907 posts)
6. I think I have posted this here before,
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but I have an Aussie friend who calls this "tall poppy syndrome."
The kid is cute, successful, and the girls love him. He has dared to hold his head higher than the other poppies in the field, so someone feels compelled cut him down. |
Response to murielm99 (Reply #6)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:27 PM
Cleita (64,526 posts)
9. That makes some sense. It's too bad human nature
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is so awful in this respect.
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Response to Cleita (Reply #2)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:42 AM
white_wolf (5,722 posts)
28. He's a talentless hack who can't sing.
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Last edited Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:44 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) And he's arrogant enough to think he has contributed more to music than the Beatles.
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Response to white_wolf (Reply #28)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:56 AM
bhikkhu (7,639 posts)
30. Which justifies rabid hate?
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If I don't like a performer's work I ignore it. Why call a kid a "talentless hack who can't sing?" I'm not a fan myself, but I believe Justin Beiber developed a following based on people liking how he sang.
In any case, hating to the point of wanting to mutilate and murder is about as pathological as it gets, and likely has nothing to do with singing ability. |
Response to bhikkhu (Reply #30)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:10 AM
white_wolf (5,722 posts)
32. I don't hate him at all, but he is a hack who can't sing.
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Last edited Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:12 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) That's why I don't like him. That and like I said any 18 year old kid who says he has contributed more to music than the Beatles deserves to get made fun of. Most people don't like arrogant celebrities. However, none of what I says justifies even joking about killing the kid, but I was replying to the general question of why he is so strongly disliked by a lot of people. He's kind of like the Twilight of singers. Soulless drivel meant to appeal to pre-teen and teenage girls that is given far too much popularity.
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Response to white_wolf (Reply #32)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:09 AM
bhikkhu (7,639 posts)
42. I was unable to find any quote of Justin Beiber saying anything like that
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...so I wonder if its not like so many things Obama is supposed to have said, which evaporate into mazes of hysterical RW slander when you look for facts?
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Response to white_wolf (Reply #28)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:10 AM
Cleita (64,526 posts)
43. He's not talentless. He's talented enough to become famous
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and have a following. That's a talent in itself. That doesn't justify killing him in any book. He's an entertainer! He hasn't harmed anyone in his short life.
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Response to white_wolf (Reply #28)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:43 PM
Inspired (3,889 posts)
51. Well, yeah, but does that mean he should be castrated?
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Response to Inspired (Reply #51)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:44 PM
white_wolf (5,722 posts)
52. Of course not! You shouldn't even joke about that.
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I wasn't trying to justify that or any of the jokes made about it. Someone asked why the guy is so disliked in general and I gave my opinion on why so many people seem annoyed by him.
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Response to Cleita (Reply #2)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:56 AM
liberalhistorian (18,992 posts)
45. Well, I do know now why my parents
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would sigh and roll their eyes whenever my same-age stepsister and I would go gaga over Shaun Cassidy, our generation's version of Bieber. And I'm sure that twenty-thirty years from now Bieber's legions will find themselves feeling the same way.
Then again, this is the brat who wanted MN Sen. Amy Klobuchar jailed for proposing some law or policy he disgreed with (can't remember what it was now), slimy little fascist snot who can't even sing. |
Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #45)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
Cleita (64,526 posts)
48. He's still a kid. When he grows up to be Arnold Schwarzenegger, then we'll talk. n/t
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:32 PM
Bucky (41,527 posts)
3. Not, repeat: *NOT* a Belieber
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:51 PM
DJ13 (21,340 posts)
5. The way he sings I thought he was already castrated
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Response to DJ13 (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
dembotoz (4,554 posts)
13. they left the job half done
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they were supposed to kill him to
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:22 PM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
7. Justin Bieber Found To Be Cleverly Disguised 51-Year-Old Pedophile
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:24 PM
pinboy3niner (27,538 posts)
8. Will no one rid me of this meddlesome Biebst?
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:28 PM
graywarrior (57,060 posts)
10. He's like some weird kind of aphrodisiac that makes teen girls scream and others
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want to punch him in the face or kill him.
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Response to graywarrior (Reply #10)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:31 PM
ErikJ (2,656 posts)
15. One Direction even more.
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Tickets sold out for their show here one year in advance for $400 each up front.
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Response to ErikJ (Reply #15)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:42 PM
graywarrior (57,060 posts)
16. Just plain f'n weird.
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Response to graywarrior (Reply #16)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:46 AM
cherokeeprogressive (14,955 posts)
23. Yeah but it's not like this kind of thing started with the Biebster...
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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #23)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:18 AM
lob1 (3,126 posts)
33. Lots of people hated the Beatles, too.
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I'm NOT putting Bieber in the same talent category as the Beatles. Just the senseless hate part.
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Response to lob1 (Reply #33)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:33 AM
graywarrior (57,060 posts)
44. The Antmen hated them
Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #23)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:37 AM
JHB (17,803 posts)
36. See my #35
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Last edited Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:42 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) "Look at that punk. Doesn't he have a face you just want to punch?" --JHB's dad, circa 1977
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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #23)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:01 PM
liberalhistorian (18,992 posts)
46. OMG, does that bring back
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memories for this late-forties-something gal, lol! There were several years when I lived for that magazine and Cassidy, Garret, Parker Stevenson, Wesley Eure, etc., etc. Gads, I cringe to think of it now, lol. I remember seeing Cassidy in concert in '77, when he was on the Hardy Boys; you could barely hear him through all the screaming, which my stepsis and I were, of course, contributing to. lol.
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Response to graywarrior (Reply #10)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:34 AM
JHB (17,803 posts)
35. Minus the "kill him", those are the same words my father said about Leif Garrett...
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...back when he was gazing out from the covers of my sister's copies of Tiger Beat.
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:28 PM
MrSlayer (21,345 posts)
11. The hate against this kid is off the charts ridiculous.
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He's just a pop singer, not a terrorist, not a rapist, not a fucking politician. He sings songs for his prepubescent audience and everyone wants to kill him, literally.
I don't get it. |
Response to MrSlayer (Reply #11)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:30 PM
frogmarch (7,243 posts)
14. Neither do I. Never have.
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I guess hating this kid is the in thing to do. Very stylish and cool.
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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #11)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:11 PM
NealK (103 posts)
19. I don't get it either.
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That's really weird.
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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #11)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:45 AM
bhikkhu (7,639 posts)
29. True. Coincidentally, I just lectured my daughter a bit on giving him a break
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as there's a vein of hate running through the schools over him too. A girl in her school is going to see one of his concerts and has been picked on. Mine seemed to be buying into the gang mentality and arguing that it was perfectly natural...ugh, teenagers. At least she's at an age where she still can learn, and still cares about being on the "good" side.
She played me one of his songs on youtube, as I don't know his music. He has a well trained voice, a sweetness and innocence. Why that brings out the worst in some people I don't get either. |
Response to MrSlayer (Reply #11)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:54 PM
MicaelS (4,386 posts)
53. I call it "hate the pretty boy syndrome."
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As far back as I remember, people have always been attacking verbally and in print, whomever is the current "teen heartthrob" popular with adolescent and teenage girls. I remember it with Elvis, then The Beatles and continues to this day. Probably goes further back than that, to a young Frank Sinatra, or even further.
I think it's just jealousy and hatred of someone who is popular with nubile females. Lots of unspoken undercurrents of "Oh my god, these girls are just going crazy over this guy, and that must mean they want to have sex with him!" Look at how some people are obsessing over the "Twilight" novels. Novels aimed at nubile females seem to attract a great deal of disdain. And I use the term "nubile" deliberate, as in this context. Nubile Nubile refers to a young woman who is ready or suitable for marriage by virtue of her age or maturity. Since at least 1973, it has also been used to refer to a sexually attractive young woman. |
Response to MicaelS (Reply #53)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:19 PM
MrSlayer (21,345 posts)
54. Yeah but this seems to go beyond that.
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I remember when I was 14 all the girls had pictures of Matt Dillon and Rob Lowe and so on and would swoon over them and we (the boys) "hated" them (the stars) for it. We would disparage them and all but no one openly wished for their deaths.
It wasn't the sort of vicious hatred that is directed at this Bieber kid. It's not limited to what would be his sexual rivals. I see adults and kids alike savaging him on Facebook, saying the worst possible things and salivating over the notion of his torture and death. It's beyond anything I've ever seen and I just don't get that. I've never listened to any of his music but I'm sure he can't be that bad of a singer. I hope he has a good security team because the hate is out of hand. |
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
ErikJ (2,656 posts)
12. He has bedroom eyes. nt
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:00 PM
-..__... (7,776 posts)
17. And how were they expecting to carry out this plot?
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The kid probably has Pope level security detail/body guards surrounding him 24/7/365.
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Response to -..__... (Reply #17)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:16 PM
NealK (103 posts)
20. Well that guy doesn't look too bright.
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Response to NealK (Reply #20)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:29 AM
ChairmanAgnostic (23,985 posts)
40. Is that Justin Bieber?
Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #40)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:11 PM
NCTraveler (1,722 posts)
47. Yes. nt
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:02 PM
Bake (21,685 posts)
18. I realize everybody's tempted to throw in a Bieber joke or two
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But seriously, these guys wanted to KILL the kid. That's awful. Could we just maybe, maybe refrain from the jokes in this thread? Feel free to start another one just for Bieber jokes ...
Bake |
Response to Bake (Reply #18)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:50 AM
nomorenomore08 (4,240 posts)
37. +1
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I'm getting a bit weirded out right now. And it's not just the OP.
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Response to Bake (Reply #18)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:17 AM
backscatter712 (19,824 posts)
39. My thoughts exactly.
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I'm no Bieber fan, and I've cracked plenty of jokes at his expense, but killing him is a wee bit out of line.
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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #39)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:32 PM
Bake (21,685 posts)
50. I mean, he can't help it ... it's not his fault that he's just so cute
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that middle aged women swoon over him ...
LEAVE JUSTIN ALONE!!!!!! Bake |
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:08 PM
edbermac (11,145 posts)
21. No Bieber fan, but any jokes about this are not funny.
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Too many wackos out there.
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Response to edbermac (Reply #21)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:40 AM
Behind the Aegis (27,658 posts)
22. Agreed. +1
Response to edbermac (Reply #21)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:33 AM
Scootaloo (5,872 posts)
26. Thank you.
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I started reading some of the replies to this thread and was like "fucking what, where the hell am I? The URL says it's DU..."
These guys wanted to kill and maim a kid. And this is funny?! Fucking unbelievable. |
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:15 AM
Lady Freedom Returns (4,536 posts)
24. So, he hates Bieber or something else?
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I take it the whole story is not out yet.
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:36 AM
dballance (3,719 posts)
27. That's Scary.
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I'm so old I don't know a thing about Bieber but he's probably no worse than any pop star when I was a teen in the '80s. Or, say, the Beetles in the '60s.
He most certainly does not deserve to have some sort of hit squad trying to murder him. |
Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:04 AM
TwilightGardener (39,680 posts)
31. Pruning shears... damn.
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:26 AM
njcamden_25884 (27 posts)
34. don't much care for that kind of music
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But this guy is a nut. Lock him up
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Response to njcamden_25884 (Reply #34)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:52 AM
nomorenomore08 (4,240 posts)
38. The "mastermind" is already serving double life.
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But the others are probably looking at some serious time as well. One would hope anyway.
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:38 AM
Ganja Ninja (15,712 posts)
41. When your life is so pointless that you obsess over Justin Bieber and plan to kill him ...
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why go on? You need to do yourself a favor and commit suicide instead.
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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #41)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:53 PM
nomorenomore08 (4,240 posts)
55. Re-read the OP. The main guy behind this is already serving life for murder.
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I imagine he has quite a lot of time on his hands, to say the least...
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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:25 PM
zellie (437 posts)
49. Have any of you read his autobiography ?
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The years of working at the bottom?
The years of failure. The kid has had a tough life. |


