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Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:48 AM

Harry Reed just announced we will go over the cliff unless republicans allow higher taxes on top

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Reply Harry Reed just announced we will go over the cliff unless republicans allow higher taxes on top (Original post)
still_one Dec 2012 OP
Coyotl Dec 2012 #1
jberryhill Dec 2012 #2
still_one Dec 2012 #6
John2 Dec 2012 #16
still_one Dec 2012 #17
ananda Dec 2012 #21
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #10
ejbr Dec 2012 #18
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #24
The Magistrate Dec 2012 #30
freshwest Dec 2012 #34
freshwest Dec 2012 #31
ejbr Dec 2012 #36
freshwest Dec 2012 #27
Aerows Dec 2012 #3
Dalai_1 Dec 2012 #4
still_one Dec 2012 #5
Dalai_1 Dec 2012 #8
still_one Dec 2012 #9
TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #13
Aerows Dec 2012 #14
jberryhill Dec 2012 #15
bunnies Dec 2012 #19
jberryhill Dec 2012 #28
snooper2 Dec 2012 #22
madokie Dec 2012 #7
still_one Dec 2012 #11
Cleita Dec 2012 #12
bunnies Dec 2012 #20
woo me with science Dec 2012 #23
joeybee12 Dec 2012 #25
freshwest Dec 2012 #26
Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #29
The Magistrate Dec 2012 #32
freshwest Dec 2012 #35
Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #37
Cha Dec 2012 #33
cbrer Dec 2012 #38
still_one Dec 2012 #39

Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:53 AM

1. When did one word become a thread post?

One would think there is a story to go with this kind of headline! Otherwise, why waste our time?

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:59 AM

2. Omigod how will you ever get that time back

I find the sentence newsworthy, so please excuse me from your royal "our".

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:11 AM

6. It was on Bloomberg, and the opposition is slamming the President. The "Analyst" are saying they

will not go over the cliff, but the principles are saying otherwise

I personally think the republicans in power are evil, and think that by going over the cliff they will "punish" the people for voting for the President.

I also believe they are destroying their party and future with that thinking. Democrats must stand strong


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Response to still_one (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:02 PM

16. Well,

 

that is what I'm trying to point out to people dumping on President Obama about caving in. The President does not control the Senate. The Democrats do and certain Indepedents that will caucas with the Democrats. If anything happens to Social Security or Medicare, it want just be the President's and Republicans doing. The Democrats would have to go along with it and constuents of Democrats, have direct control over their reprentatives. The media and Republicans act like they don't have a constituency. That is why I have this negative attitude with the media so much. They are always bringing up the Republicans' district.

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Response to John2 (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:12 PM

17. agreed /nt

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Response to still_one (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:42 PM

21. Thank you!

Dems stand strong!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:15 AM

10. Remember what Mark Twain said about who had the right to use "We"

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:35 PM

18. What did he say?! What did he say?!

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Response to ejbr (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 01:22 PM

24. That the only people that had the right to use the word we

was pregnant women, royalty, and newspaper editors.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:10 PM

30. And Persons With Tapeworm, Sir....

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:14 PM

34. Ah, the 'We Are Legion' grouping. Quite true.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:12 PM

31. He left out the people with mice in their pockets. That counts, too.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:54 PM

36. Ah....thank you! n/t

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 01:49 PM

27. We must not break the solemn mood of winter:



In the face of those determined to be afflicted with sorrow, lesser kittehs like myself shamelessly beg for cheeseburgers.



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Response to Coyotl (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:03 AM

3. This isn't even on the level

of the posts where people just say "Can you believe what so-and-so said?" and then you wonder what in the hell they are watching, what in the hell so-and-so said, and why in the hell you should care.

This was a one sentence post, but at we were informed of who was making the statement, what was said, and why we should care. I don't see anything wrong with it.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:04 AM

4. +1

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:08 AM

5. This was reported on Bloomberg. Complain to them

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:13 AM

8. Thank you for posting this! K&R n/t

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Response to Dalai_1 (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:15 AM

9. Thanks /nt

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:17 AM

13. Please. Half of DU consists of "OMG JOE SCARBOROUGH!!!11"

Or "EFF YOU, TWEETY!!11!" with no actual content, as if we are all watching the same TV show at the same time. At least this post contains information.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:28 AM

14. I know

Those posts drive me crazy. This post stated who said it, what was said, and had plenty of context as far as I'm concerned, even though it was brief.

It's nowhere in the neighborhood of "OMG I can't believe he just said that, I'm outraged" and you have no idea who in the hell they are talking about, what they are watching and why you should be outraged, too.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:42 AM

15. Did you SEE what SHE did!


Not her. The other woman.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:40 PM

19. The one that sat next to that guy?

With the mouth and eyes? That woman?

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Response to bunnies (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 01:57 PM

28. Yep. She was on the other show last week

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:45 PM

22. Did you find the piece of information being shared confusing?

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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:13 AM

7. Hang in there Harry

We're with you or many of us are anyway

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Response to madokie (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:16 AM

11. That is what the impression is the Democrats will not "cave in", and the republicans are not too

happy about it




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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:17 AM

12. Harry finally growing a pair.

Kudos to him!

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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:41 PM

20. Yeah. But how MUCH higher?

Thats the real question.

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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:46 PM

23. No grand bargain "unless..." And that means exactly what?

Two or three percent?

And more austerity?

What are the terms of this "victory bargain"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021950482



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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 01:24 PM

25. Is this guy any relation to Harry Reid? nt

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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 01:29 PM

26. He's doing what he was elected to do. He's in accord with Obama, Pelosi and Sanders.

Pelosi and Reid Have OBAMA's BACK: No Social Security Cuts & Taxes MUST Be RAISED On The RICH

Both Democratic leaders in the Senate have President Obama’s back on the fiscal cliff. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are both emphatic about the wealthy paying more taxes, and no cuts being made to Social Security.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021843971

Reid: No Messing With Social Security. Senate Democrats won't


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said Social Security is off limits in upcoming negotiations over how to replace steep automatic tax increases and tax cuts with more targeted deficit reductions.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/10021753411

Sanders Applauds White House for Taking Social Security Off the Table in Deficit Talks


WASHINGTON, Nov. 27 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today welcomed White House assurances that Social Security benefits won’t be cut as part of negotiations on a year-end deficit-reduction deal.

“This is a step in the right direction for more than 55 million Americans who have earned Social Security benefits today and every working American who will receive Social Security benefits in the future,” said Sanders, the founder of the Senate Defending Social Security Caucus. “The simple truth is that Social Security has not contributed a nickel to the national debt so it makes no sense for it to be part of deficit negotiations,” he said.

“The American people have been clear that Social Security is enormously important to their well-being and that it should not be cut. The election and poll after poll show clearly that the American people want the wealthiest people and the largest corporations in this country, who are doing phenomenally well, to play a significant role in reducing the deficit,” Sanders added.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Monday that Social Security should be addressed separately from the lame-duck deficit negotiations. “We should address the drivers of the deficit and Social Security currently is not a driver of the deficit,” Carney said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014319000

It will not hurt the wealthy. Their howling RW media is doing everything they can to scare the voters into thinking the end is near, so they'll be demoralized and give in. The war profiteers of WW2 survived the intentionally punitive tax rate during the era of Eisenhower and that money was spent on infrastructure, and will be again.

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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:03 PM

29. Send them an offer to raise the top tax rate to 39%.

When they come back and say "Where's the spending cuts?" send them an offer to raise the top rate to 42%.

When they come back and say "You can't be serious?" send them an offer to raise the top rate to 46%.

When we go over the so called "fiscal cliff" send them an offer to raise the top rate to 51%.

The more they fuck around the higher the rate should go.

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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:12 PM

32. A Man After My own Heart, Sir

That is the only way to negotiate with wreckers and insurrectionists....

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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:39 PM

35. That's pretty much what Obama has said with every succeeding offer.

"Maybe you shouldn't have fucked with the president so much."

...The administration is threatening to weaken their ability to obstruct in the Senate or to blow up the economy by holding the debt ceiling hostage, while also demanding their tax hikes on the rich and refusing to offer anything remotely satisfactory (from the Republicans' point of view) in spending cuts.

Give the president what he wants or over the cliff we go. And the GOP gets the blame no matter what happens. Maybe you shouldn't have fucked with the president so much.


http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/29/231032/17

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251256919

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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:02 PM

37. that would be awesome. nt

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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:13 PM

33. Thanks still_one!

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Response to still_one (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:10 PM

38. Buckle up. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

 

I would love to shove McConnels face into a pile of shit.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:37 PM

39. I agree

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