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Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:08 AM

Foxy Ladies -- Why one network applies so much makeup

I was in the break room making coffee, and ran across this item from September. Just thought I'd share

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Fox no doubt has several reasons for pursuing the look one guest described as “Fox glam.” The advent of high-­definition TV screens is probably one of them: saturated colors (including, conveniently, red) work well in HD. And then there’s the management. Gabriel Sherman, a journalist working on a book about Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes, notes makeup’s unique role in Ailes’s creation myth, which dates to a fateful encounter with Richard Nixon. When Nixon lost to John F. Kennedy, in 1960, many said that his fate had been sealed by bad makeup during a televised debate. Before an appearance on The Mike Douglas Show seven years later, Nixon groused about having to stoop so low as to go on television; Ailes, the executive producer for the show, persuaded him to embrace the medium, and the makeup. Nixon hired him to work on his next presidential campaign, and won.


Ailes, Sherman points out, under-stands that while TV news may be journalism, it is also entertainment. “He works like a Broadway producer,” says Sherman (indeed, at one point Ailes was a Broadway producer). That, Sherman says, is why Fox sets look like stage sets: “The colors are brighter, the camera angles faster. Everything pops on the screen more, every­thing is eye candy.”

But the best explanation for Fox glam may be the channel’s largely conservative audience. An argument can be made that conservative women are typically less squeamish than progressive ones about embracing what the sociologist Catherine Hakim calls “erotic capital,” otherwise known as using your looks to get ahead. See the gleeful Laura Ingraham/­Ann Coulter school of beauty­ology, which holds that the angrier and better-­coiffed you are, the more attention you will receive. The Republican Party welcomes looks in a woman—Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Nikki Haley—and so does Fox.


The media critic Jack Shafer adds that the women you see on Fox are not just winsome, lavishly cosmeticized women, but winsome women paired with older men. He says the network almost appears to be taking a page from the theory of evolutionary psychology, which argues that women are attracted to prosperous (often older) men, and these men are attracted to women whose youth and curves signal fertility. “

The men are kind of frumpy older men,” Sherman agrees, “paired with hyper-feminine women. That kind of kinetic energy between the sexes is one of the reasons Fox is successful. Oftentimes the older male hosts—Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity—in the prime time, at night, are paired with women, debating politics, and the women are generally much younger … It almost goes back to 1940s Hollywood.” For guests, the Hollywood screwball routine can be unnerving. It was for Nell Minow, a critic of inflated CEO pay, who was taken aback when a producer urged her to “attack the masculinity” of her debate partner.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/09/foxy-ladies/309054/

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:12 AM

1. because it works for them???????????

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:22 AM

2. You always find interesting things, CW!1 n/t

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:27 AM

3. Well...

so what?

What the hell is 'hyper-feminine'?

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:31 AM

4. I'm hoping someone will explain it to me.......

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:40 AM

7. Have a seat then..

I made room for you.

or ?


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Response to CatWoman (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:12 AM

20. I luvs me some hyper-feminine women...

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:38 AM

6. I think in this case, it's making them look as different from men and normal women as possible

I always think of a little miss pageant in the south when I see photos of the Fox Fembots - troweled and tarted up and prancing around in spandex.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:56 AM

16. Oh my goodness

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:58 AM

17. Alert!!1

Poster pushed me down and took my popcorn!

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:12 AM

21. Let me help you out.

I'll share.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:36 AM

5. It takes a lot of paint to cover...

... the rot inside.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:41 AM

8. RW men aren't going to pay attention to an average looking woman on TV, especially if she's angry

The paint reassures them that she wants to please them.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:08 PM

72. "The paint reassures them that she wants to please them"

BY JOVE YOU'VE GOT IT!

Couldn't agree more. It also explains just part of why they hate, Hate, HATE Hillary. She's said publicly that if she doesn't have time or feel like makeup she doesn't worry about it anymore. Basically, "screw the paint, I've got a brain."

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:44 AM

9. Hannity looks kind of odd as a blonde.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:44 AM

10. i will wait for our men at du that promote this shit, to tell us how it is.... nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:20 PM

74. and how hotness is this emo-lutionary NEED and women should just accept it?

If they are not a young, painted Barbie Doll, they should just go eat worms because men still run everything, and they like hot chicks, who cares about ability, education, professionalism, intelligence, work ethics, talent, and I dunno . . . human rights?

Yeah, I've seen that here a couple times here. WAY MORE outside of DU, but sadly, I've seen hints of it here. I guess DU is like any other community. A few bad apples, and all that.


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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:46 AM

11. Salt/Pepper-Haired Middle Age uncle type paired with a young-ish buxom female!

Most newscasts look like second/third marriages . . . or affairs . . . especially on Repub networks like Faux or CNBC. Kind of explains the appeal to unevolved Repub guys.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:47 AM

12. Sex sells, especially to the ignorant trash that comprise the vast majority of the Fox audience. n/t

 

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:48 AM

13. Same reason Murdoch has page three girls...

in his SUN newspaper spreads.

some people just call it porn.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:51 AM

14. Ummm, this isn't really unique to Fox.

 

Everyone on TV uses tons of make-up, male and female. Have since the begining of the technology.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:16 AM

22. from the article:

Of course, TV news shows have always put a premium on appearance, more so for women than for men. And it’s hardly a revelation that some networks place more pressure on women than do others: C-SPAN has no makeup room at all, just a collection of powder compacts that guests can use if they are so inclined. At MSNBC, Rachel Maddow is known to prefer minimal makeup, while other anchors want more, and the artists oblige with a range of choices, from neutral tones to berry hues. Bloomberg TV tends toward the corporate aesthetic; CNN favors a professional style that makes women and men look crisp, as if they have been ironed. As for Fox, suffice it to say that there is a YouTube montage devoted to leg shots of Fox anchors, who are often outfitted in body-hugging dresses of vibrant red and turquoise, their eyes enhanced by not only liner and shadow but also false lashes. A Fox regular once commented to me that she gets more calls from network management about her hair, clothes, and makeup than about what she says. “I just think of it as a uniform,” she said of her getup.


it certainly appears that it "is" unique to Fox....

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:02 PM

24. And I'm currently looking and seeing exactly the same thing....

 

on every news network and all the major broadcasters. On every morning show. Every. Single. One.

Huh....

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:11 PM

26. I don't

huh, indeed........

Soledad O'Brien doesn't look like a streetwalker

Tamron Hall doesn't look like an overmade tart

Melissa Harris Perry doesn't look like a circus clown

Alex Wagner doesn't look like a slut

Rachel Maddow neither

I've never seen any of those women overly made up and/or wearing very short skirts.

P.S. -- there's a huge difference between "makeup" and "overly made up"

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:56 PM

40. Firstly, none of these women, on Fox or any other network, qualify for those slurs.

 

Right now on CNN, whoever that is is wearing a quite sexy dress. The two presenters on NBC. Every channel I checked had a female in a relatively short, snug dress in a bright color.

I'll admit that as a male with no understanding of fashion, I may not have the right biases to judge this correctly.

Or, maybe I'm just refusing to be sexist.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #40)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:02 PM

42. whatever floats your boat

bless your heart......

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #42)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:46 PM

45. Hey, I'm not the one throwing out insulting labels towards women.

 

Whatever....

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #45)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:17 PM

47. bless your heart X2.....

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #45)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:04 PM

57. It's okay, they're presumably REPUBLICAN women,

so calling them a "slut", "tart", "streetwalker" or "circus clown" based on their makeup and wardrobe is okay. As much people find it offensive that Limpballs would call someone a slut based on a political disagreement, it seems to happen from DUers often enough too.

The difference is, when Dems say it about repukes, it's TRUE, so it's okay... yeah, we'll go with that until we can come up with some better justification for it.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:10 PM

43. seriously -- we're now the ones labelling some women as looking like "sluts" based on their clothing

I don't give a rat's ass how much or little makeup the women (or men) on any news program wear. I care about whether they report the news fairly and accurately. You could dress the Fox newscasters in burlap bags and I would still have no respect for them.

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Response to onenote (Reply #43)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:18 PM

48. I'm sorry but whenever I see Ann Coulter in one of those tiny, ill-fitting dresses

that's the first word that pops in my head.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:55 PM

50. CNN right now, presenter in tight bright red dress, mid-thigh length, knee-high boots...

 

with what look like 4" heels.

Where does that fit into your lexicon of "streetwalker", "overmade tart", "circus clown", and "slut"?

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #50)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:52 PM

79. wah!!!! wah!!!!!

that's all I get from reading your posts.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #79)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:31 PM

82. Then your reading comprehension is teh sux. Have a nice day. n/t

 

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:20 PM

28. I am watching Tamryn Hall for the first time

I am in NY and am watching her show for the first time (I live in CA and I'm usually sleeping at this time of day).

She looks as if she has been made up using a paint roller.

Maybe it's the teevee in my hotel.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:55 AM

15. not just the ladies

Shepard Smith seems to lay it on pretty thick.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:40 PM

60. +1.. Hannity too..

When they turn their head you can see the makeup line at their chin.. It makes me laugh, thinking about these gun loving, "tough" patriotic, Murikans, sitting in the makeup chair discussing which shade of blush they should use today...

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:00 AM

18. This "stuff" also comes from Rupert Murdoch and his use of page 3 girls @ The Sun ....

.... newspaper in England.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:09 AM

19. Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter are considered "lookers?"

Really?

Could some men chime in here? I find neither particularly attractive.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:35 PM

32. They might attract my gaze the same way that a terrible car accident does.

"Heinous" is the first word that comes to mind when I see them. I've made earnest attempts to judge their aesthetic appeal (because I, like you, have heard so many comments regarding their attractiveness) trying to not factor in what wretched people they are, but looking at them as objectively as possible, I couldn't imagine being attracted to either one.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:38 PM

34. "look-awayers"

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:49 PM

39. I would have considered them "cute" about 10-15 years ago

Now they're looking pretty much like Dorian Gray's portrait at the end of that tale.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:56 PM

46. I saw a clip of Coulter on The Lawrence O'Donnell show.

She had a decent makeup job (lots of neutrals, including the lipstick) and actually did look nice.

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #46)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:12 PM

81. I think she's had some work done, seriously.

If you look at her from a couple years ago, and then more recently, she definitely has had some fillers done.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #81)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:06 PM

84. Could be. The thing that caught my eye was that whoever had done her make-up

had opted for something less garish that what we usually see.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:20 AM

23. I've also noticed that the women on FOX wear short tight skirts

and never pass up an opportunity to show off their legs.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:04 PM

25. Fux X-pr0n stars.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:37 PM

33. So you think of a woman who wears make-up as a "porn star"?

Interesting mindset, there.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:34 PM

58. Did I say that?

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:32 AM

70. aww how cute

You got mad cause they made fun of Fox and you tried to cause trouble. Poor lil fella.

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #70)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:47 AM

71. Not mad in the slightest. It's just that "makeup = pornstar" is an unusual attitude

on a progressive message board.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:45 PM

36. lol! What?


So any woman that wears a little too much make up and a short skirt is a "porn star"?

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #36)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:35 PM

59. Did I say that?

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:20 PM

27. "TV news may be journalism"


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Response to arcane1 (Reply #27)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:28 AM

61. That's what some people are saying. nt

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:25 PM

29. Their target audience is in Texas and Florida, not Vermont and Oregon?

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:29 PM

30. Is this article suggesting that they're made up to look like trophy wives?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:46 PM

37. pretty much

and remember, the author of the article is a woman.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:48 PM

38. Man, I can so believe that.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:34 PM

31. and the men on Fox are the opposite of eye candy

And the list of strikingly unattractive male guests is actually pretty equivalent to the list of male guests. I don't watch Fox but I see clips of them on MSNBC and... well, I'll just come out and say that Charles Krauthammer is terrifying. And he's not the only one. Why are all the women on Fox gorgeous (or blonde, the conservative equivalent) and not (as far as I have ever seen) a single man is?

I hope it's clear that I'm not gratuitously making fun of anybody's appearance, or judging them, or anything like that, because good looks are merely good luck. I'm wondering why Fox seems to have made a deliberate decision that women's looks are extremely important and men's looks matter not at all.

Edited to add that I guess I did gratuitously make fun of, and kind of judge, Charles Krauthammer. That wasn't nice of me.

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Response to renate (Reply #31)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:45 PM

35. Krauthammer looks just like Richie Rich's evil cousin, Reggie

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #35)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:30 PM

76. OMG

........ ! You nailed it!

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Response to Care Acutely (Reply #76)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:36 PM

86. that's perfect

I'd always thought that he looked like Sam the Eagle, but this guy is his doppelganger.

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Response to renate (Reply #31)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 01:53 PM

41. That goes to one of the points of the essay -- "rich older men" (looks don't matter) +

"young female eye candy" is a social construct that rich and not-so-rich men enjoy. Thus it appears on Fox.

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Response to renate (Reply #31)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:50 AM

64. I'll try not to take that personally!

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #64)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:38 PM

83. First things first...let's see your legs, Steve.

Maybe show up dressed like Fabio on a cover shoot, give the blue-haired Republican women a little thrill next time.




Or maybe a pirate outfit!


That would be AWESOME!!!









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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #83)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 PM

90. Be careful what you wish for!

p.s. that's my daughter



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Response to stevenleser (Reply #64)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:37 PM

87. well, clearly you do not belong on Fox!

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:16 PM

44. Makes sense after

seeing this photo of Ailes without makeup (on the right).

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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #44)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:27 PM

49. Lol

Got that right

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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #44)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:58 PM

51. What an amazing likeness!!!! They could be brothers

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:00 PM

52. It seems they know they have a fan base

that judges people by their appearance. I'm not surprised at this at all.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:26 PM

53. Last paragraph says it all.


“It’s that little scowling look they give you when they’re delivering the news,” she continued. “It’s like the bitchy girl in high school, now she’s your friend, and you hate the same people.”


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Response to ieoeja (Reply #53)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:38 AM

63. I love Megyn Kelly's "'I'm a woman & I KNOW" look she uses when the facts go south on her. pic

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Response to dogknob (Reply #63)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:01 AM

65. "math you use as a Republican to make yourself feel better"

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to Karl Rove on election night. I liked when she said that. I don't watch Fox enough to know if she's remotely bearable otherwise. I get my Fox from the Daily Show.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #65)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:15 AM

66. Thanks to my housemate I am exposed to FOX on a regular basis...

Sometimes I get the feeling that Megyn is aware she's working a gig aboard the Titanic. It might pay well, but it's still the Titanic; be aware of the location of all lifeboats.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:08 PM

54. Fox News Firsts!

 

First to go to court to argue that they could tell known lies and call them "news".

First to have one of their "serious" woman journalists strip for a men's magazine.

What a quality channel it is!

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:37 PM

56. She really is gorgeous.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:31 AM

62. to Hide the Underlying Ugliness

 

Males and females both.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:30 AM

67. It makes a perverted kind of sense.

Fox isn't out to inform or educate people in any straightforward way. It's out to stimulate the reptilian brain and emotional centers in its conservative audience.

Sensationalism and sex sell -- and that includes spreading fear and bigotry.

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Response to silverweb (Reply #67)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:14 PM

73. You're absolutely right on this

 

It's about circumventing the cerebral cortex and getting right to the reptilian brain.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:36 AM

68. The Fox Ladies always look like...

A girl from Jr. High with too much lip gloss.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:55 AM

69. Style over substance.

That's Republicanism. Cosmetics and lies.

(I think the deeper cultural connection is that many Republican/conservative women have historically had the money to frequent beauty parlors and buy lots of cosmetics, and that's what many Republican/conservative men developed a taste for.)

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:26 PM

75. Nikki Haley is good-looking?

????




Not seeing it. I see hair coloring, bleached teeth, heavy foundation/makeup.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #75)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:49 PM

77. You can find an unflattering picuture of anyone.

I probably know less about the woman than I should, mostly because I do not believe for a second that the cavemen of the right will ever allow her to get too far, even if she says all the right things. She still can't be a good ol' fashund real 'Murican white girl, and even Mc Sarah had to be appointed to notoriety by a desperate old man. They hate women, but that's not the point I make here. Nikki Haley appears to me to be a nice looking woman. She's not 19, but she seems to look nice when I see her.

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Response to Care Acutely (Reply #77)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:05 PM

80. Many here have theorized that an ugly interior will

over time, express itself on the outside, as well. I find many of these Republican 'beauties' to be physically ugly with lots of paint to hide the ugliness - bottle blondes, heavy foundation, mascara, hair color, high heels, boob jobs, botox, etc.

Hillary Clinton, in contrast, kind of sets a different tone - physically not graced with much natural beauty, but has an inner radiance and nurturing that I think is attractive; icing on the cake is recent statements she's made that she feels she's old enough now that she doesn't have to wear make-up anymore if she doesn't feel like it. Gotta respect a woman who demands to be respected for exactly who she is.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #80)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:33 PM

85. Totally agree. Said the same about Hillary myself upthread.

I also agree with the idea put forth that all of that paint and what-not often serves to assure some men that the female wants to please them - an absolute requirement of the right.

Just saying that if I saw NH in a crowd, I would probably think that she looks nice, and I would have little reason to think much more about it unless she started talking.

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Response to Care Acutely (Reply #85)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:42 PM

88. Okay, understood.

Cheers!

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:51 PM

78. Trohpy wives for white over 50 white conservative males

who need to feel good about themselves.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:47 PM

89. Yeah right

How many times have they told us that? Maybe that's why their ratings are going down. We don't want old men when we're young. In the primitive wild (to which the right wing is forever referring) of course we would want the strongest men. Tarzan wasn't portrayed as old. Trophy wives are not "natural."

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