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Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:30 AM

 

Own or Lease a non-union made car?

Your purchase or vote, if you will, undermines ALL workers in America.

Hope you are enjoying your purchase.

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Reply Own or Lease a non-union made car? (Original post)
Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 OP
Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #1
Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #4
Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #6
oldbanjo Dec 2012 #2
Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #3
GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #18
MrYikes Dec 2012 #5
davidn3600 Dec 2012 #7
RC Dec 2012 #8
NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #9
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #10
SWTORFanatic Dec 2012 #15
srican69 Dec 2012 #11
Johonny Dec 2012 #12
SWTORFanatic Dec 2012 #13
FarCenter Dec 2012 #14
snooper2 Dec 2012 #16
dmallind Dec 2012 #17

Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:51 AM

1. Not knowing everyone's particular circumstances

makes this something of a sweeping generalization me thinks. Granted it would be great if everyone purchased Union made, US produced autos, but what if, the vehicle type you need seek is not produced in this country or by Union workers?

What of other factors to which we may not know?

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:37 AM

4. What if any effort was made at all to

 

search out Union Made autos or other products in the first place in guiding thier decision?

REAL Lasting Change requires a change in thinking and action by EVERYONE in everything you do and every dollar you spend.

If we the 99% do not support each other in what we do we will lose.

The only why we as a people can send a message to the 1% is with our wallet by taking away what they cherrish and worish most...our money.

The other choice well is sort of messy, just ask the French they took that path back in 1789 with thier rich and do we really want to do that again?



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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:47 AM

6. What if

a year long search (yes, a year long with numerous dealer visits, internet searches and a trip to the auto show) for the highest mpg commuter car repeatedly led you to Toyota as it did in my case? Detroit simply did not produce a car that I could afford to meet my specifications in 2007.

And one might add that my Union Made 1998 Ranger that is now semi retired (replaced by the Toyota in the commuter role) is made with numerous foreign parts under the hood. I wanted to buy a Union Made vehicle to fill the commuter role (as it is a long daily commute) and tried to find one, but the highest mpg which was the driving requirement was made by Toyota.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:01 AM

2. Is there a list of non Union made cars?

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Response to oldbanjo (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:29 AM

3. The Internet is thy friend!

 

List of UNION Made Cars and Tires

http://www.uaw.org/cars

Search Engine of Union Made Products

http://www.unionlabel.org/
Top Right of Page

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:36 AM

18. Not a car there that I would buy.

Sorry - I'll stick with my 12 year old Saab.

And when it comes time to change cars, we're moving over to Zip-Cars and public transportation.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:44 AM

5. This is absurd.

Did the union make the 76 Pinto? Sure it did. Did the union design the Pinto? No. Union members have no input on any part of the car, they just put it together. The car still killed and burned many people. Does the union claim responsibility for that? no.
My wife's Jeep was put together perfectly. Yea for the union members that did the work. She and I appreciate your work ethic.
My decision to buy a union made product will be enhanced when unions design the product.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:54 AM

7. Really, it's not that simple anymore...

Cars are rarely entirely put together in one place anymore. And even American companies have plants in other countries. Just like foreign companies have plants in America.

Most cars today are made up of parts from several countries.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:58 AM

8. My 2004 GM car was made in Canada.

 

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:04 AM

9. So a big stupid ass gas guzzler is more patriotic than my 2007 Prius.

Bullshit.

If the UAW had been building anything like the Prius, it would be sitting outside right now, but they didn't, they made the GMV hybrid monster truck and there was a Ford Escape hybrid, which sucked.

Fuck it all.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:07 AM

10. Let's see now

Our 1997 Ford Taurus blew up while going down the road with 97,000 miles on it. Total boat anchor under the hood.
My 1992 Toyota pickup still going strong at 130,000 miles and gets 31 mpg on the highway.
Bought both of them used. I have never owned a NEW car.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:20 AM

15. I had my 94 chevy caprice until 240,000 miles - and those were

240,000 hard miles (cop car and pizza delivery).

The engine, transmission, and rear end were still fine. The frame started to rust and the steering linkage broke right off it. I stupidly had it fixed (about $300) then the wire for the coil broke and it wouldn't start and I had it with the thing.

My 97 pontiac firebird was in great shape at 150,000 miles until a semitruck sideswiped it. I was uninjured and the car almost survived to boot.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:11 AM

11. I have a Nissan versa..

It had the most important features for 14 grand for new car

Abs,
6 airbags
Bluetooth phone integration

I had just been in an accident ..(not my fault)..and I was looking to get on with my life...the last damn thing on my mind was worrying about whether the car was union built...

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:11 AM

12. I am thanks

First car I bought was union made and crap, next car I bought wasn't union made and was great... this had nothing to do with the union workers that were or weren't making the cars but the CEO and the companies decisions on quality, reliability and making a fast buck. It also has to do with our governments willingness to allow such companies to compete on equal playing ground in a "free" market. As a consumer on such a large purchase it isn't always easy to pick the best car for you and your price range and the best car for working America. Which is why I choose to vote for politicians that tend towards being pro-labor, but am often stuck deciding to buy non-union made goods.

If you don't want people to shop at Walmart you have to change the rules because there are a lot of people that for many reasons have to shop at places like Walmart. However in a different environment (like one with rising wages, and fair trade) would open the door for consumers to be able to choose more avenues. As a consumer it isn't always easy a choice as simple post like this make out.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:17 AM

13. I only buy used camaros and firebirds (the 93-02 models). I do make sure to buy

parts made in the US, Japan, or Europe though.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:20 AM

14. The transmission of my '81 Buick Century failed at 14,000 miles

I don't believe it was designed that badly. It must have been a manufacturing defect.

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:29 AM

16. where are your shoes made from

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Response to Resonance_Chamber (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:32 AM

17. Yes I do. Yes I am thanks.

Where's the union-made BEV which I might even consider by the way?

Enjoy all that money to ME dictators your union-made vehicle causes?

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