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Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:00 AM

"Right to Work" = Your State will become Poorer

"Right to Work" - the idea cooked up by Conservatives to bust unions, is nothing more than a right to be poor.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:24 AM

1. kick

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:43 AM

2. I had no idea that Southern labor arrangements were

considered state of the art in the north.
Is that the solution-- just import the South to the North and hope no one is the wiser for it?
What's next?
Debt peonage . . . ?
Share cropping . . . ?
Share-manufacturing . . . ?
How about a modified form of slavery that extracts labor without any wage and yet does not commodify human beings?
I've seen it happen on farms.
Don't think such paternalistic and dependent arrangements can't be imported into other workplaces.
And don't think they can't be imported from South to North.
There is only one way to respond-- massive and universal resistance.
That is, through the mass unionization of every service and manufacturing industry and the unionization and severe militancy in the information trades.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:45 AM

3. How about the recovery of piece-work instead of the wage?

Or, more putting out?
There is no end to the possibilities for the truly exploitative cheap labor conservative.
And cheap labor, the undermining of the value of the wage are what conservatives are ALL ABOUT.

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Response to burnsei sensei (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:28 AM

15. piece work has already been revived.

 

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:57 AM

4. Your State will become Poorer

I remember,although not exactly when,Kansas going RTW..I think Late 80s to mid 90s.....

Anyway,something like a year later,I was waiting my turn in the Dentists lounge,flipping through a Time or Newsweek type magazine.....There was a short article on Kansas One year later,using Bridgeworkers and Road Builders as example..Before RTW these guys were making $18-$20 per hour,and had bought Homes,cars,boats whatnot,on those wages....A year later,making as low as $8 an hour,thery were losing a lot of their "stuff"......

Wish I'd kept that magazine,but I've never forgotten.......

RTW=BULL SHEEEEIIIT!!!!

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:04 PM

11. But the owners of the companies employing them got richer

So it all balances out!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:07 PM

5. This born-again family values jerk at work the other day was looking forward

to Texas seceding as they are perfectly set with crops, resources, blah blah blah.
I pointed out that there is a drought killing their great agricultural industry and it would continue for a few more years...no farmer handouts from uncle sam after they secede. they take more money from DC than what they pay in. They would lose that money the moment they secede. They would have to fund their energy programs, roads, bridges...no grants from evil Uncle Sam. No federal funding for the Texas national Guard, the tanks, trucks, aircraft need to be bought, I'm not funding it.

America needs to move the border fence North a tad to keep the undesirable Texans out of our free country!

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Response to rustydog (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:13 PM

6. For that very reason, I am on record as saying that any red state that seceeded would look 3rd world

in 25 years.

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Response to rustydog (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:16 PM

7. You need to apologize, then, because you are wrong.

Texas is one of a few red states that does NOT get back more money than it sends in. It gives more than it gets:

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Response to rustydog (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:20 PM

13. send him this!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:20 PM

8. K & R !!! - Did You See This ???

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Response to WillyT (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:26 PM

9. Good stuff! I will post that soon on all my pages...

Thanks!

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:45 PM

10. Steven, be sure to post this graphic, too:

From a thread by sheshe2:

What Martin Luther King had to say about Right to Work 1961!

Martin Luther King, Jr. saw these efforts for just what they were back in 1961, and he was strongly opposed to so-called “Right To Work” even then.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021958389

Wisconsin union members posted videos with his words. We all know that he was in Memphis to help the sanitation workers when he was assassinated. A union website with more:

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. on Labor

http://www.afscme.org/union/history/mlk/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-on-labor

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Response to freshwest (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:26 AM

14. The original pic and first graph have both generated heated discussion on my show's FB page

I will post MLK tomorrow!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:25 PM

12. Just curious, what are the other two states? n/t

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Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:30 AM

16. One that come to mind is the State of Missouri. n/t

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