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Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:42 PM

 

Portugal's President explains how they cut drug addiction in half:



But they don't have private prisons to fill up for the profit of the people who fund our politicians.

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Reply Portugal's President explains how they cut drug addiction in half: (Original post)
Whovian Dec 2012 OP
Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #1
Whovian Dec 2012 #2
patrice Dec 2012 #7
montanto Dec 2012 #16
etherealtruth Dec 2012 #3
Butterbean Dec 2012 #4
Gregorian Dec 2012 #5
patrice Dec 2012 #6
liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #8
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #9
Whovian Dec 2012 #20
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #24
Oldenuff Dec 2012 #10
hack89 Dec 2012 #11
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #14
hack89 Dec 2012 #15
WillyT Dec 2012 #12
_ed_ Dec 2012 #13
MyOwnPeace Dec 2012 #17
wishlist Dec 2012 #18
Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #19
midnight Dec 2012 #21
LuckyLib Dec 2012 #22
ROBROX Dec 2012 #23
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #25

Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:47 PM

1. Yes but insert non sequitur here. Nt.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:50 PM

2. LOL. n/t

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:54 PM

7. +++1

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:36 AM

16. Well done!!

Best post ever!

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:04 PM

3. I don't drink, don't do recreational drugs (caffeine ... caffeine is my drug of choice)

... and I agree completely.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:07 PM

4. Duh. Oh, to dream of the day when that finally happens here. *sigh*

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:53 PM

5. In America the most dangerous drugs are legal. It's how we keep our hospitals full.

Something like that. Nicotine and alcohol, and how many sick people because of them?

I think Americans are stupid, just over this one issue. Maybe more like suckers than stupid, if there's any difference.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:53 PM

6. Americans are afraid of addressing the ROOT CAUSES of addiction, partly because that

brings our economics and its relationship to religion under scrutiny.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:02 PM

8. almost everything we do is backwards

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:37 PM

9. What is it with the US?

Are we incapable of learning even the most obvious lessons? Or is our government that corrupt?

Never mind; I know the answer.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 04:14 PM

20. Religion.

 

Interspersed into politician's abilities to get re-elected brings laws like this into effect. Couple that with profits made from the drug war and for profit prisons,,,

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Response to Whovian (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 05:11 PM

24. Probably true.

I always thought that slavery was our Original Sin*, as a nation.

But it's probably our dreadful religious/moral/city on a hill squint that we apply across the board. Gah.


*I know. It is interesting framing, especially for an atheist.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:55 PM

10. The other reason is:

That is is likely that the cash from illegal drugs is the only thing keeping our economy afloat.

Still,decrim or legalizing makes far more sense than the failed policies we have been following for so dang long.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:16 PM

11. As an added benefit they most likely cut violent crime

another reason to do the same in America.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 10:40 AM

14. Except that now we have privatized for profit prisons...

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 10:41 AM

15. End the war on drugs and empty the prisons

violent offenders should be the focus of the criminal justice system.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:30 PM

12. K & R !!!


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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 09:02 AM

13. Well, Portugal is different than the US

Portugal doesn't have millions of black and brown men that they want to put in cages. So, this policy wouldn't work in the US.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:56 PM

17. This was

covered in a great article (GETTING A FIX) about a year ago in the New Yorker (Oct. 17, 2011). Check it out if you really want to get a clue as to how bass-ackward we are regarding drug laws and enforcement.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:22 PM

18. Majority of 'most wanted' are for drug crimes in my local area

Our local public service TV channel had a dozen most wanted criminals posted this week and all but one were specifically for drug related offenses.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:59 PM

19. Actually dealing with a problem, Imagine that. n/t

 

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 04:37 PM

21. Brilliant solution.... This is exactly what we should be doing... We first need to take the private

for profit prisons out of the loop..

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 04:39 PM

22. Alcohol, prescription drugs, tobacco. Causes of lost lives, ruined health, addiction, and death.

Who would fail to see the real health problems in this country but continue to criminalize marijuana?

Oh, that's right. Alcoholic beverage corporations, Big Pharma, Tobacco. $$$$$$$

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 05:01 PM

23. ANOTHER GOP BAD IDEA

 

When the war on drugs finally ends there will less EVIL on our world. Then the GOP will have to pick a new demon to be their HERO.

addiction will always be possible with us humans. Treating the addiction and resolving the concern is more important than saying, "NO!"

This concept is to simple for the simple mind's of GOP members to understand or digest.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:01 PM

25. Maybe it's the graphic; but ...

First a graphic talking about how Finland(?) does so much better than the U.S. in terms of education ... the last line was "The opposite of what America does."

Now, this graphic ... You'd think some really smart folks would think, "Hmmm, I wonder what those countries doing well in a policy area are doing and let's do that."

As opposed to, "Let's see how we can make the most money for someone (and myself) and let's do that, regardless of the policy outcome."

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