Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:58 AM

Purveyor (13,177 posts)

Intelligence Community: U.S. Out As Sole Superpower By 2030

By BYRON TAU | 12/10/12 9:54 AM EST
A new report by the intelligence community projects that the United States will no longer be the world's only superpower by 2030.

"In terms of the indices of overall power – GDP, population size, military spending and technological investment – Asia will surpass North America and Europe combined," the report concludes.

“Global Trends 2030: Alternative Worlds" — prepared by the office of the National Intelligence Council of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence — projects that the "unipolar" world that emerged after the fall of the Soviet Union will not continue.

"With the rapid rise of other countries, the 'unipolar moment' is over and no country – whether the U.S., China, or any other country – will be a hegemonic power," the report argues.

MORE...

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/12/intelligence-community-us-out-as-sole-superpower-by-151519.html

8 replies, 466 views

Reply to this thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum

Replies to this discussion thread

8 replies	Author	Time	Post
Intelligence Community: U.S. Out As Sole Superpower By 2030 (Original post)	Purveyor	Dec 2012	OP
You don't have to be intelligent to know sooner is likelier	Coyotl	Dec 2012	#1
The USA ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#2
It will be spent on debt from wars instead of on wars	Coyotl	Dec 2012	#6
If that's the case	Uncle Joe	Dec 2012	#3
Oh, dear. We'll lose our celebrity status. Welll, that's showbiz.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2012	#4
It is already over in the sense of our ability to cow other populations	FarCenter	Dec 2012	#5
"by 2030"????	dixiegrrrrl	Dec 2012	#7
A re read of the Fall of the Roman Empire is pretty chilling.	libdem4life	Dec 2012	#8

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:07 AM

Coyotl (5,152 posts)

1. You don't have to be intelligent to know sooner is likelier

much sooner as the USA runs out of money.

Reply to this post

Response to Coyotl (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:11 AM

1StrongBlackMan (5,350 posts)

2. The USA ...

will never "run out of money."

Reply to this post

Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:54 AM

Coyotl (5,152 posts)

6. It will be spent on debt from wars instead of on wars

because the debt from wars is so burdensome that war cannot be afforded.

Reply to this post

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:12 AM

Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)

3. If that's the case

the U.S. should prepare for a soft landing and that will be easier to accomplish in a world full of friends versus a planet filled with antagonists.

The U.S. should be an ardent supporter of the peoples' democratic aspirations first and foremost, it should also aggressively lead the rest of the world in developing and using green, sustainable technology.

Thanks for the thread, Purveyor.

Reply to this post

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:24 AM

Tierra_y_Libertad (36,229 posts)

4. Oh, dear. We'll lose our celebrity status. Welll, that's showbiz.

Reply to this post

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:29 AM

FarCenter (13,029 posts)

5. It is already over in the sense of our ability to cow other populations

We can still topple other governments at will, but we cannot force populations to behave as we wish.

The US is unwilling to either take or inflict enough casualties to accomplish that.

Reply to this post

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:32 PM

dixiegrrrrl (30,711 posts)

7. "by 2030"????

More "by 2015"...
While we are busy destabilizing the Middle East, China and Russia and busy making pacts with their closest partners and each other.
No way this country can afford to maintain all the outposts we have created in an attempt to ring China and Russia.

Reply to this post

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:35 PM

libdem4life (1,783 posts)

8. A re read of the Fall of the Roman Empire is pretty chilling.

The Major Causes for the Fall of the Roman Empire

Antagonism between the Senate and the Emperor ... Obama and Boehner
Decline in Morals...Reality Shows a la Honey Boo Boo, trashy music videos, worship of violence et al
Political Corruption and the Praetorian Guard...Corporations and The Beltway
Fast expansion of the Empire...Regime Change
Constant Wars and Heavy Military Spending...This is obvious
Barbarian Knowledge of Roman Military Tactics...trying to keep nukes/WMD to ourselves and buddies
Failing Economy...Up and down
Unemployment of the Working Classes (The Plebs)...Right on
The 'Mob' and the cost of the 'Games'...endless sports and government building huge new stadiums
Decline in Ethics and Values...(many different thoughts on this one)
Slavery ... Prison inmates and WalMart-type "employment"
Natural Disasters...Climate Change
Christianity...Muslims
Barbarian Invasion...The only one that doesn't come to mind...could be lots of things

http://www.roman-colosseum.info/roman-empire/causes-for-the-fall-of-the-roman-empire.htm

Reply to this post

General Discussion (Forum)