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Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:21 AM

 

Protestors rally around student who refuses to wear tracking microchip

Andrea Hernandez found an outpouring of support when she and her father Steve showed up for the Northside Independent School District (NISD) Board meeting August 28th. The San Antonio area High School honor student has refused to wear a school mandated RFID tracking beacon around her neck because doing so conflicts with her religious beliefs.

Her father and mother support her decision, but have been on edge ever since Andrea took her stand, worrying the school will try to expel her or punish her.

Members of CASPIAN, We Are Change San Antonio, We Are Change Texas Hill Country, and other concerned citizens rallied around Andrea in a pre-meeting protest outside the NISD school administration building in San Antonio, Texas. After the protest over two dozen supporters packed the board meeting room, and several addressed the school board.

ACLU of Texas has stepped in to help them assert their rights.

Northside ISD's Jay High School and Jones Middle School began requiring students to wear Student ID badges equipped with RFID tracking chips when school started August 27. The district said it decided to trial the technology to boost revenues lost due to absences.

Reaction to the school mandate was swift and drew protesters from as far away as Austin and Dallas on the first day of school.

The Hernandez family is standing firm, and so are we. Many thanks to everyone who has worked both near and far to decry RFID tracking schemes that threaten the privacy and civil liberties of all of us, including our nation's kids.

http://www.spychips.com/school/NorthsideBoardMeetingReport.html


I don't see how making kids wear chipped badges would decrease truancy. Truants wouldn't wear them & even if they did, unless the school is going to send cops to arrest the kids, what good would it do?

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HiPointDem Dec 2012 OP
LWolf Dec 2012 #1
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #4
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #36
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #37
progressoid Dec 2012 #39
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #40
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #8
LWolf Dec 2012 #46
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #47
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #2
former-republican Dec 2012 #3
FSogol Dec 2012 #6
former-republican Dec 2012 #9
FSogol Dec 2012 #5
JackRiddler Dec 2012 #13
justabob Dec 2012 #26
JackRiddler Dec 2012 #28
justabob Dec 2012 #29
rhett o rick Dec 2012 #41
FSogol Dec 2012 #44
rhett o rick Dec 2012 #45
newfie11 Dec 2012 #7
WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #10
sadbear Dec 2012 #11
ellenfl Dec 2012 #12
RC Dec 2012 #31
Quantess Dec 2012 #14
Matariki Dec 2012 #17
sadbear Dec 2012 #18
hack89 Dec 2012 #34
Matariki Dec 2012 #15
justabob Dec 2012 #24
FSogol Dec 2012 #33
hack89 Dec 2012 #35
sarcasmo Dec 2012 #16
Panasonic Dec 2012 #20
Quantess Dec 2012 #23
TeeYiYi Dec 2012 #25
Oilwellian Dec 2012 #38
Panasonic Dec 2012 #19
quinnox Dec 2012 #21
sarcasmo Dec 2012 #22
TeeYiYi Dec 2012 #27
Rex Dec 2012 #30
Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #32
Mariana Dec 2012 #42
Ya Basta Dec 2012 #43

Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:26 AM

1. It shouldn't have to conflict with her religious beliefs.

It should be illegal to mandate tracking devices, period.

I'm surprised that more families aren't refusing.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:32 AM

4. They don't protest because many are bred to be serfs and lemmings, many don't look outside of

their rut in life ... 'till they go over the cliff, and then it's too late. And then they wonder WTF, how did this happen?


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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:58 PM

36. I swear you and I are related in some way...

We keep thinking the same thing so often.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 02:25 PM

37. Yep, I think so too!

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 04:19 PM

39. Or they actually support it.

I can imagine quite a few parents that would be happy knowing that their child is tracked 24/7.

I'm not defending this, just sayin'.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 04:24 PM

40. Yes, that is probably quite true. n/t

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Response to LWolf (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:37 AM

8. agreed. yet i have read a lot of folks (fools? shills?) making comments like this:

 

Not sympathetic: for nearly 20 years I have worn a badge either on my hip, or attached to my shirt with a clip, or most recently on a lanyard.

Said badge controls my access into my building and my work area.

What's the big deal?

(I have a separate badge that controls access into my rented garage space downtown)

http://sharperiron.org/filings/12-9-12/25449


yeah, those are really similar situations, buddy...

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:17 AM

46. Apples and oranges.

But that's par for the course in modern American discourse.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:35 PM

47. yes.

 

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:29 AM

2. One step more and they will be doing surgical implants, you know, do it for the children. We

live in a bullshit society! ... problem is, many don't get it 'till they smell the bullshit and then they find they're covered with it too. And WTF, how did this happen, it ain't right.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:30 AM

3. with her religious beliefs

 

What religious belief is that?

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Response to former-republican (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:36 AM

6. The Bible makes a mention of the anti-Christ having a mark so everyone will know.

A few holy rollers think ids are a sign of the devil.

On edit, when the government introduced social security numbers, they really freaked out.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:20 AM

9. I remember the thing of social security numbers

 

"You're right" some religious people do freak out over that still.

sign of the beast

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:35 AM

5. Couldn't you just conceivably take a pair of needle nose pliers and

crush the chip? When the give you a new card, crush the chip. Repeat often.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:46 AM

13. Sure, but absolutely not the point.

This has to be stopped right now.

Not by a few breaking the chips. All this means is that in a few years, the chips will be accepted and there will be a crackdown on chip-breaking as though it's a horrific vandalism.

This is outrageous - even if a majority want to assent like fools.

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:35 PM

26. schools in other districts are also going to try this

IIRC Dallas ISD is going to try it out in schools with high truancy rates.

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Response to justabob (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:54 PM

28. That's why it has to be fought everywhere it starts.

This is setting up a total surveillance state with a more efficient schools-to-prison pipeline. It is not an acceptable solution for truancy.

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:59 PM

29. agreed!

I was just pointing out that it is already spreading. It won't take long. I agree it has to be stamped out now. Sorry for not being clearer.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 06:08 PM

41. The chip will have poison that would be released upon tampering and a gps which would

indicate when the chip was neutralized. People today allow chips to be installed for nightclubing. They can charge their drinks by having their chip scanned.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #41)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:03 PM

44. and only the school nurse has the antidote?

I like it!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #44)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:03 PM

45. I was in love with the school nurse. But that's another story. nm

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:36 AM

7. What the hell

This is nuts. I am speechless.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:25 AM

10. WTF??

Ugh.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:33 AM

11. I don't understand how the tracking device is supposed to work.

If they wear the badges at school, so what? They're at school.

If they want to leave campus, they put the badge in their locker, and then leave campus.

If they don't go to school, they leave their badge at home.

Either I'm totally missing something or they must think the kids are really dumb.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:42 AM

12. if they don't go to school, they give the badge to one of their bffs to take for them.

that said, 'NO' to big brother.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:07 PM

31. You are not missing anything.

 

These badges only work at the school. Go off campus and they no longer work. To read some of the posts here, you'd think they implanted chips in the kids.
This same technology has been used in hospitals, banks, any business that needs internal security, for many years.
It is, or should be, no big deal. But it is something "new" so people see "666" and tattoos on forearms coming in the near future.
While it is good to be skeptical and to question, thanks to dumbed down public education and fox style news in this country, the ignorance is embarrassing.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:51 AM

14. "...boost revenues lost due to absences."

They care most about lost REVENUES due to absences? What kind of a school is that?

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Response to Quantess (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:53 AM

17. Posted the same question at the same time. What does that even mean???

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Response to Quantess (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:53 AM

18. It's a public school in Texas.

That should tell you all you need to know about them caring about lost revenues.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:32 PM

34. Most states including attendance in their school funding formula

here is an example from California:

Calculating Average Daily Attendance

The state of California funds school districts based on student attendance, also known as Average Daily Attendance (ADA), at school. ADA is calculated by dividing the total number of days of student attendance by the number of days of school taught during the same period.

Example:

Michael has perfect attendance, calculated this way:
142 days attended by 142 days of school taught = 1.0 ADA

Hannah attended 136 of the 142 days taught, calculated this way:
136 days attended by 142 days of school taught = .96 ADA

How Does ADA Generate Revenue for the District?

A student like Michael, with perfect attendance, generates $5,786* in revenue for the district. It is calculated this way: 1.0 ADA x $5,786 revenue limit per ADA = $5,786.

A student like Hannah, who may miss several days, generates less revenue. In this case, ADA is calculated this way: .96 ADA x $5,786 revenue limit per ADA = $5,554
In this case, there was a loss of $232 in possible revenue.

Irregular attendance also affects the revenue the district receives from the lottery, and for Special Education.




http://www.sandi.net/page/111

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:52 AM

15. WHAT does this mean - "to boost revenues lost due to absences" ???

Are they making money by fining parents? Is that what this is about?

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Response to Matariki (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:28 PM

24. no

Schools lose funding if too many kids are absent too often. Attendance is part of the funding equation.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:31 PM

33. My take on that statement: They are selling the data on where the kids go

to marketers.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:34 PM

35. Most states including attendance in their school funding formula

here is an example from California:

Calculating Average Daily Attendance

The state of California funds school districts based on student attendance, also known as Average Daily Attendance (ADA), at school. ADA is calculated by dividing the total number of days of student attendance by the number of days of school taught during the same period.

Example:

Michael has perfect attendance, calculated this way:
142 days attended by 142 days of school taught = 1.0 ADA

Hannah attended 136 of the 142 days taught, calculated this way:
136 days attended by 142 days of school taught = .96 ADA

How Does ADA Generate Revenue for the District?

A student like Michael, with perfect attendance, generates $5,786* in revenue for the district. It is calculated this way: 1.0 ADA x $5,786 revenue limit per ADA = $5,786.

A student like Hannah, who may miss several days, generates less revenue. In this case, ADA is calculated this way: .96 ADA x $5,786 revenue limit per ADA = $5,554
In this case, there was a loss of $232 in possible revenue.

Irregular attendance also affects the revenue the district receives from the lottery, and for Special Education.




http://www.sandi.net/page/111

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:52 AM

16. When do taxpayers get a chip?

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:54 AM

20. If your passport is new, you already have one.

 

It's RFID embedded.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:03 PM

23. Now that, I don't mind so much.

Because you can usually leave it at home, and, if it gets stolen, then it can be tracked.
That is not at all as invasive as tracking a person's whereabouts.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:31 PM

25. I didn't know that, though I should have guessed...

My passport has been missing for a year and a half. I think it's here in my house somewhere but I'm not sure. I've searched.

I wonder if the passport office can track it for me... ...or give me a gps code and I'll use my smart phone to find it.

TYY

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 02:25 PM

38. Hmmm

When you buy a cell phone or have GPS in your car? Most of us are already "chipped."

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:54 AM

19. RFID chips can be destroyed by rare earth magnets

 

Easily available on eBay for as little as $3

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:59 AM

21. like A DOG COLLAR

 

Will the next step be to lock the student ID badge to the student, unable to be removed? Or better yet, why not just fit all the students with ankle bracelets like they do criminals?? "It's for their own safety"

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Response to quinnox (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:02 PM

22. Student ankle monitors.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:36 PM

27. That this is happening in a for-profit prison state, doesn't surprise me.

It sounds like it came from the same playbook, with an eye on lost revenue and the bottom line.

They're prepping the kids for a fast track to prison life.

TYY

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:03 PM

30. ARghhh....I was really hoping beyond hope it was some other cities

NISD...but NO, it is SA...FUCKING SIGH. Sometimes I think SA is the worst city in Texas and sometimes the best.

Yeah tracking kids is NOT Big Brotherish so quit saying that!!!!!

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:11 PM

32. "The district said it decided to trial the technology to boost revenues lost due to absences."

 

Says it all right there.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:07 PM

42. They aren't even pretending to care about the students.

That's what gets me. Even if the money is most important thing to them, I don't understand why they didn't lie and tell the public that they want to improve attendance because it benefits the students. They don't even feel the need to fake it.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:22 PM

43. RFID tracking of the past

 

First thing to come to my mind is. So they think of us the same way as we do cattle where they find it necessary to hang a modern day cow bell around our neck?



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