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Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:04 AM

"We can't allow these job-killing tax breaks to continue. For 10 years we tried this and it failed"

There, isn't that easy?

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Reply "We can't allow these job-killing tax breaks to continue. For 10 years we tried this and it failed" (Original post)
Pryderi Dec 2012 OP
on point Dec 2012 #1
ReRe Dec 2012 #2
Pryderi Dec 2012 #3
rock Dec 2012 #4
RC Dec 2012 #10
12AngryBorneoWildmen Dec 2012 #5
John2 Dec 2012 #6
byeya Dec 2012 #7
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #8
Pryderi Dec 2012 #11
AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #9
freshwest Dec 2012 #12
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #13

Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:33 AM

1. The republican candidates just didn't lose the election, their IDEAS LOST TOO!

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:54 AM

2. Easy as you Pleasey

Lets roll! Over the cliff!

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:06 AM

3. I have more evidence that tax cuts kill jobs than repugs have that they create jobs.nt

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:46 AM

4. I'm sorry, that sounds suspiciously like it would take a brain to understand

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Response to rock (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:11 AM

10. Good one!

 

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:51 AM

5. Me Likey. nt

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:00 AM

6. The U.S.

 

has the cart before the horse. They need to create the job before the tax incentive. That is good for businesses but not for teachers. Teachers are not the problem, businesses and investors are. They want the candy without doing anything to get it.

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:20 AM

7. The USA has employed the Friedman/Hayak supply side voodoo since 1980, more or less,

 

and it's had more than enough time to show the world what a failure it is. A failure for the vast majority that is; but, for the ultra rich and ultra greedy, it's working just fine.
Maybe we need to eliminate the parasite class so we can employ economic policies that benefit the majority.
Higher taxes on outlandish income; tax on great wealth; tax on the sale of stocks and bonds; and a 75% estate tax on estates $10 Million and over with no shelters like foundations allowed.

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:40 AM

8. Did I miss where the president said this?

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:14 AM

11. He has, but just not as starkly. nt

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:59 AM

9. It works for the rich and the super-rich campaign contributors.

 

And future employers of politicians and those related to them.

A truly "Centrist" President would consider their needs too.

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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:08 PM

12. Our problem is wingnut media bloviating about public sector jobs. Each time we say that...

too many see it as and 'us' versus 'them.'

'Us' being the alleged taxpayer and 'Them' being the government, and by default, public jobs such as teaching. Until we can get past this false boogeyman in the minds of the voters, which FDR didn't have to fight as we do with media, we can't get the virtue of those jobs being paid for tax dollars through.

Democrats and those who lived under Keynesian economics in the past, know that this works and increases security and prosperity. It comes from the ideal that we are all in this together.

We are dying from the spiritual impoverishment of half the nation who believe public professions of faith replace the deeper spiritual values that transcend all division, is sufficient. That's why they call Democrats, secularists, public schools and the like godless, because we don't try to force the world to submit to their version of God. But if their God was Love, would He ignore the millions doing without, as the GOP has done?



The movie said, 'Houston, we have a problem.' And it is just as fatal as the one the astronauts faced. We have a meme to overcome in this country. It's an uphill battle, over what most of us grew up and took for granted as sane American public policy.

I haven't been able to cajole the brainswashed, and it's permeated society as a whole. Obama is doing this gradually to change public perception, but it's too slow and he has little support. But we can push it here and in Congress... the media, no.

Sorry if that seems to go too far afield, I support what you say in the OP a hundred percent.


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Response to Pryderi (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:36 PM

13. More like a 30-year trial...and error.

I'd like to repeal the Reagan tax cuts!

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