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Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:49 AM

Sex offender Sandusky limited in prison due to safety concerns

Source: Reuters

Sex offender Sandusky limited in prison due to safety concerns

By Dave Warner
PHILADELPHIA | Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:15am EST

(Reuters) - Imprisoned serial child sex offender Jerry Sandusky lives under tight restrictions for his own safety, a corrections official said on Saturday, after the former Penn State football coach asked for more prison privileges.

"He is being housed in the appropriate facility in order to assure his safety," said Susan McNaughton, press secretary for the Pennsylvania state Department of Corrections.

She responded to questions from Reuters after one of Sandusky's lawyers complained that his client was confined to his cell 23 hours a day.

"He's being treated like the worst of the worst in the state prison system in terms of his daily routine," attorney Karl Rominger said on Saturday.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/09/us-usa-pennstate-sandusky-idUSBRE8B70DO20121209

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Reply Sex offender Sandusky limited in prison due to safety concerns (Original post)
Eugene Dec 2012 OP
Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #1
madmom Dec 2012 #2
LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #3
99Forever Dec 2012 #28
Aristus Dec 2012 #4
Mel Content Dec 2012 #7
HERVEPA Dec 2012 #12
bluestateguy Dec 2012 #5
HERVEPA Dec 2012 #10
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #14
Panasonic Dec 2012 #23
sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #32
madinmaryland Dec 2012 #39
madokie Dec 2012 #6
HERVEPA Dec 2012 #11
madokie Dec 2012 #20
Iggo Dec 2012 #50
customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #40
lbrtbell Dec 2012 #52
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #15
madokie Dec 2012 #22
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #27
madokie Dec 2012 #35
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #41
XemaSab Dec 2012 #42
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #43
XemaSab Dec 2012 #44
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #48
madokie Dec 2012 #47
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #49
Panasonic Dec 2012 #25
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #30
Panasonic Dec 2012 #31
sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #33
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #8
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #9
jonthebru Dec 2012 #13
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #16
Tikki Dec 2012 #17
madokie Dec 2012 #36
DinahMoeHum Dec 2012 #18
Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #19
Panasonic Dec 2012 #21
Terra Alta Dec 2012 #24
Panasonic Dec 2012 #26
Iggy Dec 2012 #29
tavernier Dec 2012 #34
MrSlayer Dec 2012 #37
blueclown Dec 2012 #38
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #57
RB TexLa Dec 2012 #45
Loudly Dec 2012 #46
underthematrix Dec 2012 #51
cntrfthrs Dec 2012 #53
Separation Dec 2012 #54
TexasBushwhacker Dec 2012 #55
Initech Dec 2012 #56
Iggo Dec 2012 #58
KansDem Dec 2012 #59

Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:52 AM

1. He wants to be able to "interact freely" with other inmates?

Doesn't he know what other inmates tend to do to people who raped pre-pubescent kids?

Just how delusional is this guy?

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:09 PM

2. "He's being treated like the worst of the worst...", ..well yeah!

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Response to madmom (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:30 PM

3. +1

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Response to madmom (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:32 PM

28. My thoughts exactly. n/t

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:31 PM

4. Does the guy not know how many cons are fathers?

They don't take kindly to child molesters...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:43 PM

7. A fair share of them were also abused as children, in one way or another.

 

and a few 'sessions' with jerry might help them work thru some issues.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:02 PM

12. Yeh, I'm sure that would be great. (sarcasm)

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:34 PM

5. Would it really be all that bad if the other prisoners offed him?

He's guilty, he's unrepentant and people such as him should NOT be safe in prison.

It'd save the taxpayers a lot of money too.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:01 PM

10. Yes it would be awful. Terribly dumb idea.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:39 PM

14. Forgive me

When exactly did he get the death penalty? That is what you are asking, to be exacted by mob violence.

Yes, he isn't a nice person, but the state has an obligation here.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:16 PM

23. If his lawyer is whining about his confinment issues

 

just dump him on gen pop and see how long he survives.

I'm sure a few casinos would be willing to bet on how long he survives in genpop. I give him no more than 3 hours.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:55 PM

32. Yes, it would. We are not primitive bent on revenge. The objective of our system is

justice. He has been convicted and sentenced and is now away from where he can do any more harm.

It's astonishing how we do not hold up to the test of our own claims to being a civilized nation.

If vigilante 'justice' is what we want, then let's stop pretending we respect the rule of law.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:38 PM

39. I think you are on the wrong site. Jim Robinson would happily welcome your views to his site. nt

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:40 PM

6. Let his sorry tail out in general

see if any of us care

sorry but dudes like this dude deserves whats coming to them

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Response to madokie (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:01 PM

11. Prison rape is bad. Period.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:13 PM

20. Not as bad as a older man raping a child as this guy is guilty of

and not just once but many times. He can kiss this old okies ass as far as I'm concerned.

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Response to madokie (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:14 AM

50. Yes, it's just as bad.

Rape being rape, and all.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:46 PM

40. So's shower rape

I hope he gets a very 'friendly' roommate.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:36 AM

52. Raping children is worse - n/t

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Response to madokie (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:40 PM

15. See this

14. Forgive me

When exactly did he get the death penalty? That is what you are asking, to be exacted by mob violence.

Yes, he isn't a nice person, but the state has an obligation here.
Occupy: Guide to the Perplexed http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/120904

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:15 PM

22. No its not what I'm asking nor saying

Don't for a minute think that I will care what happens to him.

Talk to me the devastation he caused to many a young boy if you want a conversation with me.
Peace

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Response to madokie (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:31 PM

27. Putting him in general is akin to the death penalty

This is why child abusers are put in essentially solitary, which in some ways s worst. But that is what prisons have to do...and matters little if they are famous or not.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:21 PM

35. What I'm saying is I don't care

He ruined many young boys lives, he is not someone I will care about.
If I'd been molested as a kid and the molester was still alive when I got older I'd been in jail for killing the bastid myself. I don't take molesting children lightly nor do I have one tear for those who do. Its not a question of what jerry sandusky did, it is a fact of what he did.

Please lets not get all about ourselves over something like this.
Peace

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Response to madokie (Reply #35)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:48 PM

41. Yes, he did

The court and a jury found him guilty of such. He was sentenced to prison, not death in prison. Ypu don't care that we have a legal system. Yes, you are getting over your need for revenge. Sorry if some of us are not willing to follow you into mob rule.

That is what you should care about. But perhaps we should stop pretending and just get rid of the pretension of a legal system and surrender to mob rule. It will make life that much better.



Suffice it to say, our court and legal system has many flaws, but you are asking to get completely rid of it to satisfy the basest of instincts.

For the record, some of my patients were underage, were gang raped and were sold into sexual slavery. I make sure you know this before you point out that perhaps I got no idea.

One of the people responsible for that was given 45 years. (No life sentence) and another 40 for drug offenses, effectively life. None felt sorry for him. But none would take the law into own hands.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:56 PM

42. But he was sentenced to death in prison

Sooner or later, it's coming for him.

He will never be a free man again.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #42)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:00 PM

43. Yes, but not by mob rule

And that is an important distinction.

Also he was given life in prison, not the death penalty...there is a difference. And the fact people are missing this is, quite frankly, astonishing.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:03 PM

44. Part of me wants to see him get torn apart in gen pop

but part of me thinks that hanging out for another 30 years in solitary would be a better punishment.

"Better" in this case meaning a lot crueler.

I don't think the justice system does a good job of punishing molesters. I want what's worst for him. He deserves to suffer.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #44)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:54 PM

48. Well part of the problem is that molesters might not

Be cured or redeemed, but that is a whole different discussion.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:27 PM

47. I see you'll carry this into the near future so I call uncle

Peace Nadinbrzezinski

Your reading way too much into what I said, so stop it please OK

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Response to madokie (Reply #47)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:55 PM

49. Nah, I read what you wrote

Peace.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:20 PM

25. I was sexually abused as a child

 

and even though my cousin is far away (in another country, in fact), it was a tough thing for me - I still talk to my cousin from time to time, but never about the abuse.

I am not forgiving for child molesters, period.

Sandusky hid this for many years. He raped and molested probably hundreds of children through his foundation.

Putting him on gen pop is not death penalty itself, but a high number of inmates are fathers, grandfathers, uncles, brothers, and may have been sexually abused as a child themselves. They are not forgiving, either.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:32 PM

30. Why you keep these guys in solitary

You just sad it yourself.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:51 PM

31. Bingo. That's the only viable option for Sandusky

 

and he will die in solitary confinement.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:57 PM

33. Thank you. This is a test of our commitment to the principles we claim to hold dear.

I hope the comments in this thread do not reflect the society we live in but if they do, then we should just stop the pretext of being a civilized nation.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:46 PM

8. If he was released into the general prison population, I wouldn't bet on his life expectancy.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:48 PM

9. This man is incredibly stupid.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:37 PM

13. That is as it should be.

Except it should have been implemented 15 years earlier.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:41 PM

16. Well, not shocked the lawyers are going there

This is like standard.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:43 PM

17. Are you trapped in that cell, Jerry? Kinda like a...

little kid trapped in a shower with you, huh?


Tikki

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Response to Tikki (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:23 PM

36. Exactly

suffer pervert, suffer

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:48 PM

18. Lowest of the low in the inmate hierarchy. . .

. . .since a lot of inmates themselves had been abused as children.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:59 PM

19. So let him go roam around general pop.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:15 PM

21. Dump him in gen pop and be done with it.

 

let him try to survive on genpop.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:19 PM

24. I say, give the man his wish.

Let him in the general population. See how long he lasts. I don't think he'll even make it a day.

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Response to Terra Alta (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:24 PM

26. Less than 1 hour.

 

is the current guess.

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Response to Terra Alta (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:32 PM

29. Even with "Protection"

 

I doubt ol' Jerry lasts six months.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:16 PM

34. But he doesn't want to roam in genpop

He prefers that all those criminals are locked down while he has his daily constitutional and conducts his important business affairs.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:23 PM

37. He wants to go in gen pop.

 

Let him go to gen pop. Let justice prevail.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:30 PM

38. Sad to see some members of DU advocate prison mob violence and prison rape

Now, Sandusky is an awful criminal, but he deserves to be kept state by the prison authorities. The state has administered justice, we don't need any vigilante justice from other hard criminals, and it's really sad to see certain factions of DU advocate that type of behavior... disgusting.

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Response to blueclown (Reply #38)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:12 AM

57. Ah, but you see, the need to satisfy one's bloodlust knows neither party nor

 

principle.

Just as a point of reference, though, I'll wager that those on DU who have no problem with Sandusky being whacked in General Population had absolutely no problem with Osama bin Laden being extra-judicially executed either, nor with the kill lists Obama personally oversees and approves for his precious drones. These same DUers would be screaming bloody murder, were Bush in charge of the kill lists.

DUer EFerrari phrased the principle you articulate most excellently back in May of this year: "We treat evil men decently not because of who they are. We treat evil men decently because of who we are." I cannot find the thread where she said it to link but it has stuck with me ever since.

Oh, wait, you'll be accused of 'hand-wringing,' mark my words.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:12 PM

45. He's trying to get moved to a medium or low security facility


While it's probably true that he's not a flight or violence risk, he is being punished. Prison can be a rehabilitation enterprise but it's also intended to be a punishment. Sounds like he is being punished and will continue to be for a while.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:24 PM

46. Any incarcerated person should have the right to opt out.

Any incarcerated person deserves access to a length of rope and a sturdy overhanging pipe or beam.

It is the most compassionate and humane treatment of anyone deprived of their freedom.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:22 AM

51. I think Sandusky should be given the same consideration he gave his victims

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:47 AM

53. In the belly of the ...

Not here to debate questions of our legal system or whether rape is justified for a rapist but speaking as an old jailbird, Sandusky would be shunned in the yard and be beaten badly but probably not killed and back into solitaire for his own safety. He MIGHT survive if he can fight or is hard enough to use a weapon but I doubt it, he's got too many years on him. I think he's either really naive or as someone wrote earlier, angling for a less restrictive environment...

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:52 AM

54. Tales of child molester in prison are over exaggerated.

I have many friends that work in the prison system and I have asked them about this. The tales of child molesters/rapists being hunted in prison are just that, tales. Does it happen? Yes, but no more than any other prison violence. If he is moved out of solitary confinement he would be moved into a protective custody unit. These normally house, former gang members, snitches, and sexual offenders...which is why the violence on them doesn't happen as much as said. If a person does try to take him out it would probably be for the notoriety of killing a celebrity, not a child molester.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 02:32 AM

55. Jeffrey Dahmer was in the general population

and he got killed with a broomstick in his eye socket. I just don't think Sandusky thinks what he did was wrong, therefore he thinks he would be safe in the general population. I think he really thinks he's just one of the guys.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 02:37 AM

56. No punishment is too good for this piece of shit.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:17 AM

58. Good ole DU, I can always count on you.

Rape and murder are a-okay, as long as the victim is someone you hate.

Stay classy, folks.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:21 AM

59. Too bad Penn State officials didn't have the same concern about "safety"...

...when it came to the kids who came in contact with Sandusky.

But, HEY!!! Penn State is No. 1!!! Football! Football! Football!...



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