Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:16 PM

trumad (34,443 posts)

Fuck you to those who say Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed upward.

Last edited Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:22 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

No, that’s not an exaggeration, and the failure of certain wonks to take that into consideration speaks to their isolation from "Everyday people, even the everyday people who provide services to them, such as grocery-store clerks, waitresses, and construction workers in right-to-work states. These are people who cannot wait until they’re 67 for the full complement of Medicare benefits. Many of them are people who will wind up paying the individual mandate penalty in Obamacare, because even if purchased through an exchange, the monthly premium will be more than they can afford.

Not to mention the added health risks of doing physical labor into one’s golden years. Many of these people are lucky to make it to 65. As my AlterNet colleague Lynn Parramore notes, “longevity gains have gone mostly to high earners.” More from Parramore:

Life expectancy among the less educated and those with lower incomes has actually dropped. New research shows that between 1990 and 2008, white women lacking a high school diploma lost a shocking five years of life, while their male peers lost three years.

But if everyone in your family is college-educated and has a good job with adequate health insurance, why would it even cross your mind that not everybody does?

Here’s my hope: that this rumor is being floated in order to create enormous pushback from the left that would give Obama cover for rejecting it. Time to push".
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_12/medicare_eligibility_age_on_th041669.php

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Fuck you to those who say Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed upward. (Original post)	trumad	Dec 2012	OP
OK, I'll take the hit. Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed.	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2012	#1
Edited---thanks for the advice	trumad	Dec 2012	#3
While youi were at it you could have edited out the obscenity in your subject line....	George II	Dec 2012	#56
Fuck that.	trumad	Dec 2012	#57
right on	SemperEadem	Dec 2012	#71
I'll second that motion. nt	patrice	Dec 2012	#85
Double fuck it.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#121
I thought there was a minimum age limit on this site?	George II	Dec 2012	#122
We don't really enforce it, so you are safe.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#138
I rest my case.	George II	Dec 2012	#145
You have a case of something alright	RegieRocker	Dec 2012	#152
I have no objection to the use of that word, but the way it was used was offensive to me and....	George II	Dec 2012	#127
No===as you can see by this thread...its just you.	trumad	Dec 2012	#128
oh no it wasn't	DrDan	Dec 2012	#134
Oh---forgot about you Doc.	trumad	Dec 2012	#135
It's just me who commented - how many just didn't bother at all? How many potential NEW members?	George II	Dec 2012	#144
Give it up George.	trumad	Dec 2012	#146
Thanks for the laugh.	sarcasmo	Dec 2012	#149
+1	sarcasmo	Dec 2012	#148
You miss good stuff when you allow words to offend you.	iemitsu	Dec 2012	#61
You are probably missing some great books if you stop reading when naughty words are used	world wide wally	Dec 2012	#64
I wasn't aware this was the Democratic Puritan Underground n/t	markpkessinger	Dec 2012	#73
I bet George Carlin isn't one of your favorites either.	RC	Dec 2012	#76
As a matter of fact he WAS my favorite, but he was a comedian - there's a time and a place for that.	George II	Dec 2012	#123
Words exist	sulphurdunn	Dec 2012	#77
Brings up a classic!	AAO	Dec 2012	#83
I am with you George - I very rarely read posts with frivolous profanity	DrDan	Dec 2012	#79
You think OP is telling us that he/we should have sexual intercourse with everyone with whom	patrice	Dec 2012	#82
ridiculous . . . I just typically ignore posts with frivilous profanity . . .	DrDan	Dec 2012	#86
If you think it is profanity, that's YOU, and it's kind of ODD to say the least, so why should	patrice	Dec 2012	#87
I didn't ask you to conform to anything, now did I?	DrDan	Dec 2012	#88
Why do you NEED to display what you will or will not do? If what you don't do were	patrice	Dec 2012	#91
and why do you feel the NEED to criticize my choice of posts to read?	DrDan	Dec 2012	#93
Why didn't you just not read it? Why do you NEED to publicly judge others? nt	patrice	Dec 2012	#96
I simpy agreed with the post	DrDan	Dec 2012	#97
Tell me why both of you didn't just choose to not read the dirty post. What's the purpose of your	patrice	Dec 2012	#100
and your concern over this is quite a mystery. Why do you concern yourself with	DrDan	Dec 2012	#102
As much a mystery as yours. nt	patrice	Dec 2012	#105
For me, I was hoping that it would bring some maturity to the site...that was wishful thinking.	George II	Dec 2012	#124
I'd stay very far away from reddit if I were you.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#139
BECAUSE IT WAS PLASTERED ON THE DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND HOME PAGE!!!!!!	George II	Dec 2012	#159
Believe me, if any of us is actually proposing sex, you won't be as confused about it as	patrice	Dec 2012	#89
not worthy of a response	DrDan	Dec 2012	#90
Unlike your #56, I don't NEED one. nt	patrice	Dec 2012	#92
56 was not mine - pay attention	DrDan	Dec 2012	#95
You're supporting it.	patrice	Dec 2012	#98
so why does that bother you so much?	DrDan	Dec 2012	#99
It bothers me because you are not answering my questions about it. What purpose does it	patrice	Dec 2012	#101
why do you assume I made a mistake about the OP's meaning?	DrDan	Dec 2012	#103
You called it profanity. Doesn't that mean that you think OP refers to sexual activity or	patrice	Dec 2012	#107
don't know how to make it any clearer . . . I often ignore posts with frivilous profanity	DrDan	Dec 2012	#108
So, how other people feel is "frivilous" (sic)? & You avoid telling me what is profane	patrice	Dec 2012	#110
why does this bother you so much . . .	DrDan	Dec 2012	#112
Admit that your post wasn't just about reading what you want. It may be about someone else	patrice	Dec 2012	#115
whatever . . . I will continue to ignore or read as I choose . . . and post accordingly	DrDan	Dec 2012	#116
Wow. Hypocrite. Whose "unsolicited" and BASELESS analysis started this?	patrice	Dec 2012	#117
I made no analysis - if you would have paid attention	DrDan	Dec 2012	#132
k, so you rejected something that you made no effort to understand in the first place.	patrice	Dec 2012	#150
as I said - I rarely read posts with frivolous profanity	DrDan	Dec 2012	#157
Once again, tell us all & quit your diversions: You think OP is saying all of us should have sex	patrice	Dec 2012	#151
I guess you think this is clever . . . you have said it multiple times.	DrDan	Dec 2012	#158
It's been fun. I found out what I needed to know. Going to put some Deadmau5 on & get on	patrice	Dec 2012	#118
"intentionally mistake OP's meaning"	DrDan	Dec 2012	#106
What exactly is your objection to the word "fuck"? Why is it a problem for you?	patrice	Dec 2012	#109
what is your objection to someone ignoring certain posts? Why is that a problem for you?	DrDan	Dec 2012	#111
You could have done that without publicly judging OP, what was the motive for your display?	patrice	Dec 2012	#113
not at all . . . I just typically ignore them	DrDan	Dec 2012	#114
Poor George---poor Dan...	trumad	Dec 2012	#129
never made any claims to living style - only reading preferences	DrDan	Dec 2012	#133
Seriously	trumad	Dec 2012	#136
I made a comment to George - that's hijacking? seriously.	DrDan	Dec 2012	#140
You made close to 20 posts regarding the use of the stupid word.	trumad	Dec 2012	#142
I believe it was Patrice that did the hijacking - if you read more carefully	DrDan	Dec 2012	#143
It bothers me because I'm confused how someone could think OP is telling us all to have sex	patrice	Dec 2012	#104
Frivolous my ass	DainBramaged	Dec 2012	#120
never said I was better than anyone - please do not put words in my mouth	DrDan	Dec 2012	#131
You already put your pompous foot in your mouth	DainBramaged	Dec 2012	#160
because I am selective about what I read?	DrDan	Dec 2012	#161
You must read them. Otherwise you wouldn't be throwing your 2 cents worth in.	hobbit709	Dec 2012	#137
check out the definition of "rarely"	DrDan	Dec 2012	#141
If I use the word "black" in a certain context do you always assume that I'm	patrice	Dec 2012	#81
"Black" isn't considered profanity, and the word in question has little in common with "black"	George II	Dec 2012	#126
Bullshit	DainBramaged	Dec 2012	#119
+1	limpyhobbler	Dec 2012	#5
Oh, Canada.	aquart	Dec 2012	#8
I agree...and laugh at all the righties that want to move there as a result of Obama's re-election!	George II	Dec 2012	#125
+1000	DeSwiss	Dec 2012	#25
Whew! I almost jumped all over your ass!	ReRe	Dec 2012	#32
+1,000,000	Auggie	Dec 2012	#50
All you Socialist-haters out there, please think how this would free up ENTREPRENEURSHIP!!	patrice	Dec 2012	#78
It does need to be changed. It should cover from "cradle to grave"; however, I know that's not what	retread	Dec 2012	#2
I notice only highly paid men who sit at desks are supporting it	Warpy	Dec 2012	#4
Oh, but now we are hearing about a "carve out" for people who have had hard physical work all	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#9
No shit. People who do hard physical work now have to apply	Warpy	Dec 2012	#37
a friend of ours, a plumber for 32 years, tried to get disability but has given up. He is 62 and has	CTyankee	Dec 2012	#45
Both my brothers have worked ...	AnneD	Dec 2012	#48
our	heaven05	Dec 2012	#15
Yeah, highly paid men behind desks will live longer if some infectious disease doesn't get them 1st	fasttense	Dec 2012	#54
Yes, giving all those unemployed people over 50 SOME reliable income	Lydia Leftcoast	Dec 2012	#69
Raising the Medicare age will COST money...	Bigmack	Dec 2012	#6
windshield wipers on a ducks ass	limpyhobbler	Dec 2012	#13
Paying the penalty for NO INSURANCE	HockeyMom	Dec 2012	#7
K&R	forestpath	Dec 2012	#10
This leaked story is a trial balloon to gauge public reaction	Samantha	Dec 2012	#11
If we had	Aerows	Dec 2012	#12
Fucking A. Fuck 'em sideways.	Tuesday Afternoon	Dec 2012	#14
It doesn't. Medicare should be available nationwide to anyone who needs it. Period.	geckosfeet	Dec 2012	#16
This fucking backward-ass, unfair, disproportionate wage Country has plenty..	BlueJazz	Dec 2012	#17
Fuck them	JEB	Dec 2012	#18
Some jobs can't really be done by 55 year olds and yet they are expected to do it	Cleita	Dec 2012	#19
Ezra Klein did a great	burnsei sensei	Dec 2012	#20
I contacted the president & my members of congress to let them know I'm against the age being raised	xxxsdesdexxx	Dec 2012	#27
$11b in economic costs for about $3b savings, wasn't it?	DirkGently	Dec 2012	#94
Well said. nm	rhett o rick	Dec 2012	#21
I honestly don't believe there will be social security or medicare when I retire. I don't think I	madinmaryland	Dec 2012	#22
Raising Medicare eligibility age = mass murder n/t	eridani	Dec 2012	#23
Yes...most definitely. nt	snappyturtle	Dec 2012	#26
+1 nt	Zorra	Dec 2012	#24
My friend's husband lost his job at 64	LittleGirl	Dec 2012	#28
Entitlements	Madmiddle	Dec 2012	#29
Sure,	John2	Dec 2012	#74
I see your 'Fuck You' and raise you a 'Fuck You Scumbags !!!'	RagAss	Dec 2012	#30
I'm for lowering the age to birth minus 9 months	louis c	Dec 2012	#31
The first step	naturallyselected	Dec 2012	#33
My employer told me I could retire at 62 with full employee heath insurance	doc03	Dec 2012	#44
WOW!	trumad	Dec 2012	#47
It's not very good insurance compared to our employee insurance	doc03	Dec 2012	#52
My sister, now 65, was planning to	SheilaT	Dec 2012	#66
Relax... it's a balloon.	ReRe	Dec 2012	#34
Am I missing something?	Generic Brad	Dec 2012	#35
O yes	abelenkpe	Dec 2012	#55
What 62?	rickyhall	Dec 2012	#36
i'm 57 too	shanti	Dec 2012	#40
You can still get SS at 62 I started in 2010 at 62.	doc03	Dec 2012	#43
thanks, i thought as much	shanti	Dec 2012	#62
I was promised by my employer if I retired at 62 that I would have	doc03	Dec 2012	#72
You can still retire at 62 if you can afford it, if you don't get	doc03	Dec 2012	#42
I join you with the FU. The age should be lowered to zero.	Sunlei	Dec 2012	#38
Serious or not, this chipping away at the social contract is what Republicans depend on.	ancianita	Dec 2012	#39
Indeed	Oilwellian	Dec 2012	#41
IMO, more and more college-educated people aren't able to find good jobs with benes.	raccoon	Dec 2012	#46
K&R - with !!!!!	bread_and_roses	Dec 2012	#49
obama created a monster with the simpson-bowles commission.	tomp	Dec 2012	#51
Even college educated people with reasonably good jobs and adequate health insurance can	LibDemAlways	Dec 2012	#53
i fully expect to work till i die.	KG	Dec 2012	#58
K&R	midnight	Dec 2012	#59
Tax cuts caused our national debt. Raising taxes is the only solution	JackHughes	Dec 2012	#60
Looks like someone had a cow about your post but didn't get far	hobbit709	Dec 2012	#63
I think someone above objected to the word Fuck.	trumad	Dec 2012	#65
It probably was but the language is highly appropriate in this instance	devilgrrl	Dec 2012	#68
Happy to rec this. nt	Union Scribe	Dec 2012	#67
My mom was so looking forward to Medicare, but she died of cancer 15 days before turning 65.	Still Blue in PDX	Dec 2012	#70
I'm very sorry for your loss ...	sabrina 1	Dec 2012	#75
No, just remove the cap.	AAO	Dec 2012	#80
Certain ideas need to be dropped into a chipper shredder	kenny blankenship	Dec 2012	#84
Yes it should	Lithos	Dec 2012	#130
For those who think President Obama doesn't want these changes	Oilwellian	Dec 2012	#147
I must certainly	RegieRocker	Dec 2012	#153
I agree. But there is a person here who has been pushing that meme hard.	stevenleser	Dec 2012	#154
It is coming	warrprayer	Dec 2012	#155
I'm making a video on that very subject	Oilwellian	Dec 2012	#156

Response to trumad (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:19 PM

Jackpine Radical (36,575 posts)

1. OK, I'll take the hit. Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed.

The age of eligibility should be adjusted downward to sometime shortly after conception.

That would make it a universal single-payer plan. Just like Canada has.

Fuck you to those who say Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed upward.

1. OK, I'll take the hit. Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed.

3. Edited---thanks for the advice

56. While youi were at it you could have edited out the obscenity in your subject line....

57. Fuck that.

71. right on

85. I'll second that motion. nt

121. Double fuck it.

122. I thought there was a minimum age limit on this site?

138. We don't really enforce it, so you are safe.

145. I rest my case.

152. You have a case of something alright

127. I have no objection to the use of that word, but the way it was used was offensive to me and....

128. No===as you can see by this thread...its just you.

134. oh no it wasn't

135. Oh---forgot about you Doc.

144. It's just me who commented - how many just didn't bother at all? How many potential NEW members?

146. Give it up George.

149. Thanks for the laugh.

148. +1

61. You miss good stuff when you allow words to offend you.

64. You are probably missing some great books if you stop reading when naughty words are used

73. I wasn't aware this was the Democratic Puritan Underground n/t

76. I bet George Carlin isn't one of your favorites either.

123. As a matter of fact he WAS my favorite, but he was a comedian - there's a time and a place for that.

77. Words exist

83. Brings up a classic!

79. I am with you George - I very rarely read posts with frivolous profanity

82. You think OP is telling us that he/we should have sexual intercourse with everyone with whom

86. ridiculous . . . I just typically ignore posts with frivilous profanity . . .

87. If you think it is profanity, that's YOU, and it's kind of ODD to say the least, so why should

88. I didn't ask you to conform to anything, now did I?

91. Why do you NEED to display what you will or will not do? If what you don't do were

93. and why do you feel the NEED to criticize my choice of posts to read?

96. Why didn't you just not read it? Why do you NEED to publicly judge others? nt

97. I simpy agreed with the post

100. Tell me why both of you didn't just choose to not read the dirty post. What's the purpose of your

102. and your concern over this is quite a mystery. Why do you concern yourself with

105. As much a mystery as yours. nt

124. For me, I was hoping that it would bring some maturity to the site...that was wishful thinking.

139. I'd stay very far away from reddit if I were you.

159. BECAUSE IT WAS PLASTERED ON THE DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND HOME PAGE!!!!!!

89. Believe me, if any of us is actually proposing sex, you won't be as confused about it as

90. not worthy of a response

92. Unlike your #56, I don't NEED one. nt

95. 56 was not mine - pay attention

98. You're supporting it.

99. so why does that bother you so much?

101. It bothers me because you are not answering my questions about it. What purpose does it

103. why do you assume I made a mistake about the OP's meaning?

107. You called it profanity. Doesn't that mean that you think OP refers to sexual activity or

108. don't know how to make it any clearer . . . I often ignore posts with frivilous profanity

110. So, how other people feel is "frivilous" (sic)? & You avoid telling me what is profane

112. why does this bother you so much . . .

115. Admit that your post wasn't just about reading what you want. It may be about someone else

116. whatever . . . I will continue to ignore or read as I choose . . . and post accordingly

117. Wow. Hypocrite. Whose "unsolicited" and BASELESS analysis started this?

132. I made no analysis - if you would have paid attention

150. k, so you rejected something that you made no effort to understand in the first place.

157. as I said - I rarely read posts with frivolous profanity

151. Once again, tell us all & quit your diversions: You think OP is saying all of us should have sex

158. I guess you think this is clever . . . you have said it multiple times.

118. It's been fun. I found out what I needed to know. Going to put some Deadmau5 on & get on

106. "intentionally mistake OP's meaning"

109. What exactly is your objection to the word "fuck"? Why is it a problem for you?

111. what is your objection to someone ignoring certain posts? Why is that a problem for you?

113. You could have done that without publicly judging OP, what was the motive for your display?

114. not at all . . . I just typically ignore them

129. Poor George---poor Dan...

133. never made any claims to living style - only reading preferences

136. Seriously

140. I made a comment to George - that's hijacking? seriously.

142. You made close to 20 posts regarding the use of the stupid word.

143. I believe it was Patrice that did the hijacking - if you read more carefully

104. It bothers me because I'm confused how someone could think OP is telling us all to have sex

120. Frivolous my ass

131. never said I was better than anyone - please do not put words in my mouth

160. You already put your pompous foot in your mouth

161. because I am selective about what I read?

137. You must read them. Otherwise you wouldn't be throwing your 2 cents worth in.