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Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:39 PM

Florida's Python Challenge

In an effort to either reduce or eliminate the state's Burmese Python population the Florida Department of Wildlife and Fisheries has created a Python Challenge. The website for the challenge says that the purpose of the challenge is to make the public aware of the danger the Burmese Python can cause to the Everglades ecosystem.

In this challenge people who register and pay a $25 fee will be allowed to kill seemingly as many pythons as they like. The person who kills the most Pythons will win $1,500. The person who kills the longest Python will win $1,000.

So, what is the opinion of DU members?

http://pythonchallenge.org/

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erpowers Dec 2012 OP
dionysus Dec 2012 #1
Cary Dec 2012 #11
dionysus Dec 2012 #14
Cary Dec 2012 #17
hack89 Dec 2012 #27
Cary Dec 2012 #29
hack89 Dec 2012 #30
flamin lib Dec 2012 #37
Cary Dec 2012 #38
Laffy Kat Dec 2012 #53
woodsprite Dec 2012 #23
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #2
Dread Pirate Roberts Dec 2012 #8
Laxman Dec 2012 #12
wryter2000 Dec 2012 #35
barbtries Dec 2012 #3
Earth_First Dec 2012 #4
HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #20
wickerwoman Dec 2012 #43
montanto Dec 2012 #5
slackmaster Dec 2012 #6
RebelOne Dec 2012 #34
slackmaster Dec 2012 #39
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #7
Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #9
MineralMan Dec 2012 #10
PD Turk Dec 2012 #22
longship Dec 2012 #24
PD Turk Dec 2012 #31
RebelOne Dec 2012 #36
Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #13
Rocky888 Dec 2012 #15
Bigmack Dec 2012 #16
FarCenter Dec 2012 #19
Bigmack Dec 2012 #50
DirkGently Dec 2012 #18
Retrograde Dec 2012 #21
Archae Dec 2012 #25
War Horse Dec 2012 #26
hack89 Dec 2012 #28
wryter2000 Dec 2012 #32
okwmember Dec 2012 #33
MadHound Dec 2012 #40
spin Dec 2012 #41
distantearlywarning Dec 2012 #42
arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #44
bluestate10 Dec 2012 #45
raccoon Dec 2012 #46
hedgehog Dec 2012 #47
LeftInTX Dec 2012 #52
Marrah_G Dec 2012 #48
quaker bill Dec 2012 #49
Bigmack Dec 2012 #51

Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:40 PM

1. it's macabre, but idiots releasing those snakes into the wild are fucking up the ecosystem there...

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Response to dionysus (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:57 PM

11. According the people at the Naples Zoo, that's urban folklore.

I have been there several times now. They have a nice snake show every day. According the handlers Hurricane Andrew destroyed an exotic snake warehouse in the Everglades in 1992 and there have been DNA studies that have linked the pythons to the ones in the warehouse.

I don't know if that's true, but I've heard the personnel at the Naples Zoo say that. Several handlers, over about a 4 year period, have told that story. And they also say that the problem is grossly overstated.

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Response to Cary (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:06 PM

14. be that as it may, it's still an invasive species that shouldn't be there.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:21 PM

17. I understand and appreciate that

I'm still not 100% convinced of the ethics of hunting them down like that.

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Response to Cary (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:54 PM

27. How do you ethically eradicate an entire species? nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

29. Good question.

I don't know.

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Response to Cary (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:14 PM

30. Beyond killing them quickly

I am not sure there is much more that could be done if you want to kill a huge number of snakes in a relatively short period. Florida recommends a shot to the head or decapitation.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:36 PM

37. This isn't eradicating a species. It's readicating members of a species that are misplaced into an

ecosystem where they do not belong. To kick the question back at ya', How is it not ethical to eradicate a foreign species that is devastating indigenous species?

Regardless of how they got here they don't belong here and are a real danger the existence of native species.

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Response to flamin lib (Reply #37)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:38 PM

38. The snakes don't know that they were misplaced. n/t

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Response to Cary (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 08:01 PM

53. I know, right?

I'm a total softy and this bothers me to no end. Sure do wish there was an alternative.

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Response to Cary (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:44 PM

23. That story was also on one of the reality shows that dealt with FL animal control officers. n/t

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:42 PM

2. What does ...

the python that kills the most humans get?

What about the human that kills the most humans while trying to kill the most pythons?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:51 PM

8. I Was Thinking The Same Thing...

I was trying to find an appropriate picture!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:58 PM

12. Is it wrong to hope

that right-wing nut job John Voight might actually get eaten by a large snake?

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Response to Laxman (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:26 PM

35. LOL

Ii know who I'm rooting for in that picture.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:44 PM

3. i'm okay with it

though i wouldn't be taking part, i think they pose a real threat to the ecosystem. at least that's my understanding, correct me if i'm wrong.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:46 PM

4. It seems to me that this is an effort to exploit cheap labor...

Rather than hire extra fish game and wildlife employees to deal with exotic pet enforcement and population control/eradication; they are using this as a method of cheap labor by knowingly targeting a demographic which will likely eat this up as 'sport' the entire way...

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:30 PM

20. Would you rather have an excise tax on bird feed and pet food to raise revenue

to pay for the FW employees to protect native birds, pets, and miscellaneous nongame wildlife from these things?

I know that jobs are needed, and I'm sympathetic. But I also have no problem with using volunteer labor for conservation projects. Getting volunteers into nature on these projects creates awareness and a sense of being a necessary part of natural lands stewardship.

As a matter of full disclosure, I've worn out a couple Sandvik safety axes as a volunteer controlling wood weeds on prairie restorations and wetland protection.





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Response to Earth_First (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:08 PM

43. +1

Also is it a great idea to send every untrained Tom, Dick and Harry into the swamp chasing after dangerous snakes?

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:48 PM

5. Sad, but it's an invasive species

in an ecosystem where it can really thrive and damage the native species. Better to kill them off.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:50 PM

6. Sometimes animals need to be killed. And think of all the cool boots that will be made.

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:26 PM

34. Not funny. I like snakes. I used to have boa constrictors as pets. n/t

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Response to RebelOne (Reply #34)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:50 PM

39. I lived for two years in a house with two large Burmese pythons. They were cool to have around.

 

Rampaging in the wilderness and displacing native species, they're not so cool.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:51 PM

7. They're becoming a real problem

and are quite prolific. You might want to take a look st this article.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/08/120814-burmese-python-snake-florida-eggs-biggest-science/

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:54 PM

9. It is a species which doesn't belong in the ecosystem

And is spreading rapidly. No matter who does it, the only way to curb the spread is to kill the snakes. The snakes are killing off the natural fauna.

They've tried pretty much everything already, except paying a fixed fee for each snake turned in, which is where they'll end up.

Also, they are trying to make a splash with this program to get the public to be more aware about the problem so that more snakes aren't released into the wild.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:54 PM

10. Anyone who objects to dealing with this destructive invasive species

should have one of the pythons released in their house. That oughta do it.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:33 PM

22. I am tired

of all these motherf***ing snakes in my motherf***ing house!!

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Response to PD Turk (Reply #22)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:48 PM

24. DUzy!!!

I miss the DUzies. But your post is worthy.

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Response to longship (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:22 PM

31. Thanks

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:28 PM

36. Wouldn't bother me. I like snakes.

I had two pet boa constrictors loose in my house. I could never find them. They only came out when they were hungry.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:58 PM

13. Florida needs to create a gene-altered mosquito that attack and kills pythons

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:10 PM

15. This is past necessary!

I am 6th generation Floridian. I have have camped in the Glades most of my youth. The idiots that brought these snakes into this country/state to sell o ompletely uneducated idiots should be held accountable for the distruction of the florida Eco wildlife system. Every bill that a democrat drafted, never made it to the floor, til recently, and it was shot down by the rethugs. It would hurt business bullshit. The exotic animal business backed by Alec ......... This hunt s the best news I have heard here in florida, since election.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:16 PM

16. Taste like chicken...!! nt

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Response to Bigmack (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:25 PM

19. Unfortunately, they are a little high in mercury.

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Response to FarCenter (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 06:54 PM

50. Wow... are you ever right...

http://www.livescience.com/8528-mercury-invasive-pythons-menu.html

I'm going to post this as reply to the whole thread, too.

I've eaten snake, but not those monsters.

What the hell are they gonna do with the damned things?

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:22 PM

18. These snakes could devastate the Everglades


It may be inevitable, with climate change and so forth, but I can't fault an attempt to protect gators, birds, and other native species getting gobbled up by giant pet-store escapees and their offspring.

We screwed it up so we should try to fix it. I just read where they're dropping giant packages of blue rat poison on the Galapagos, because rats are wiping out 100% of turtle eggs or some such.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:30 PM

21. Rather than just killing them

Why not have a Python cook-off? Award prizes for the best recipes using python (they probably taste like chicken), maybe with categories like "Best Python Chili" or "Best Python Barbecue". Or a python fashion show, with workshops on making python vests of belts.

The highlight of the events will be a public shaming of the stupid idiots who thought it was a good idea to first buy an exotic species and then release it into the wild.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:53 PM

25. I hope no British comedy stars get caught up in this...

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:53 PM

26. I have zero problem with dealing w/an invasive species,

but such a contest by The Department of Wildlife and Fisheries sounds like an admittance of failure to me.

I'm torn on this. Sure, get the locals to take care of business if need be, but stuff like this can get out of hand easily.

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Response to War Horse (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:56 PM

28. This a pure time and manpower issue

they have to kill them faster than they can breed. You really think the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries has that kind of man power?

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:24 PM

32. This makes me so sad

It's necessary. All those beautiful snakes destroyed because stoopid humans had pets they couldn't take care of and released them.

So many idiots get reptiles without thinking about their care.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:25 PM

33. I am all for this. This is an invasive species that is destroying the native wildlife.

There is no other option but to kill as many as possible. Given the number of eggs being laid, I'm just afraid its too little too late.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:53 PM

40. Better idea, drop the fee and pay a $100 bounty on every python brought in dead.

 

Open it up to anybody, even if they are from out of state. I guarantee that Florida's python problem would disappear in five years.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:41 PM

41. Florida also has a problem with feral hogs. ...

They do a lot of damage to the environment as they are also an invasive species.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:04 PM

42. Invasive species. I'm for it.

The Everglades is a delicate eco-system.

I also read recently that they have caught a few Nile Crocodiles outside Miami in the last year!

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:13 PM

44. I have such a phobia towards snakes, I have no problem with the idea.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:35 PM

45. The snakes don't belong in the Glades or Florida. I am ok with the bounties. nt

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:49 PM

46. Ok with me. They are gobbling up wildlife. I figured the Gov would call out the Natl Guard. nt

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:53 PM

47. Can they be trained to eat nutria?

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #47)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:28 PM

52. LOL

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 06:12 PM

48. I think it has to be done

I'm not sure if they will ever be able to stop the invasion of this species. We humans are pretty good at fucking things up royally

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 06:17 PM

49. Yes please

As a wetlands ecologist who works in FL, the fewer 20'+ snakes I run into the better. The native 8'+ snakes are good enough for me.

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:00 PM

51. The damned things are loaded with mercury....

Above I posted that they taste like chicken. I've eaten snake on occasion.

FarCenter answered that they are high in mercury.

Was he ever right!

http://www.livescience.com/8528-mercury-invasive-pythons-menu.html

"...highest mercury levels of any animal in the park —up to 3.5 parts per million. By comparison, the state of Florida considers fish containing more than 1.5 parts per million of mercury unsafe to eat.."

That's gonna complicate the control of those things. Lots of hunters might go out if there's the possibility of a whole lot of edible meat, but if you can't even eat them.....

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