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Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:33 PM

 

Fox News Op-Ed Says Women’s Nature Is To Be Dominated By Men

By Zack Beauchamp on Dec 7, 2012 at 10:21 am

Fox News has published another sexist op-ed by Suzanne Venker, the author who became infamous for attacking a fictional “War on Men.” In the follow up piece, Venker argues that women are naturally men’s inferiors.

The author believes the crudest of crude gender stereotypes are built into male and female brains, arguing that women “like to gather and nest and take care of people” while men “are hunters: they like to build things and kill things.” As a consequence, she maintains a man’s place is in the office; “his” woman should simply “surrender” to his rule:

Women shouldn’t let their success in the workplace become the biggest thing in their lives. If the ultimate goal is lasting love – and let’s face it: for most people it is – women are going to have to become comfortable with sacrifice and capitulation. …

Surrendering to your femininity means many things. It means letting your man be the man despite the fact that you’ve proven you’re his equal. It means recognizing the fact that you may very well want to stay home with your babies – and that that’s normal. Surrendering to your femininity means if you do work outside the home, you don’t use your work to play tit for tat in your marriage. It means tapping into that part of yourself that’s genuinely vulnerable and really does need a man – even though the culture says you don’t.

In other words, put down your sword. It’s okay if your guy’s in charge. It’s okay if you don’t drive the car. In fact, it’s rather liberating.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/12/07/1299611/fox-news-op-ed-says-womens-nature-is-to-be-dominated-by-men/?mobile=nc

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Reply Fox News Op-Ed Says Women’s Nature Is To Be Dominated By Men (Original post)
HarveyDarkey Dec 2012 OP
barbtries Dec 2012 #1
randome Dec 2012 #2
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #3
LadyHawkAZ Dec 2012 #33
kaspar411 Dec 2012 #4
Democratopia Dec 2012 #5
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9
Democratopia Dec 2012 #16
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #19
leftstreet Dec 2012 #21
Democratopia Dec 2012 #24
Enrique Dec 2012 #6
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #11
Scuba Dec 2012 #7
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #17
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #8
leftstreet Dec 2012 #10
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #13
cyglet Dec 2012 #12
Amaril Dec 2012 #14
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #15
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #18
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #20
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #23
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #36
Tsiyu Dec 2012 #22
abelenkpe Dec 2012 #25
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #26
MynameisBlarney Dec 2012 #27
Tsiyu Dec 2012 #28
MynameisBlarney Dec 2012 #32
eShirl Dec 2012 #29
MadrasT Dec 2012 #30
liberalmuse Dec 2012 #31
jwirr Dec 2012 #34
Archae Dec 2012 #35
get the red out Dec 2012 #37
hifiguy Dec 2012 #38

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:36 PM

1. hopefully she'll soon be putting down her pen.

wtf.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:38 PM

2. And then she screamed, "I love you, women!"

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:41 PM

3. In all fairness a man

needed to tell her how to form this opinion and help her write this.

I think the bible told me so.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:09 PM

33. A man was supposed to write it for her

1 Timothy 2:12

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:42 PM

4. GOP: If Women Want An Opinion Men Will Give Them One

 

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:44 PM

5. In my experience, a peaceful life comes only from agreeing to whatever my wife wants!

 

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Response to Democratopia (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:48 PM

9. Oh ...

you learned that too?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:59 PM

16. Behind every great man is a woman pulling the strings

 

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Response to Democratopia (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:09 PM

19. My Dad gave me the following sage advice:

Son, the sooner you learn the magic two words, the easier your life will become. The two words: "Yes Dear."

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Response to Democratopia (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:15 PM

21. um...more like taking all the responsibility

Whenever I hear a man say he 'goes along with' his wife to 'keep her happy' I suspect he actually does it to avoid taking any responsibility, thereby extending his happy adolescence right up to his final nursing home days, where someone will, again, put food in front of him, do his laundry, and schedule his dr's appts

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:32 PM

24. Far from it in my case. I am very much the house husband, and I suspect I am also talking about the

 

previous poster - when I say "yes dear" I am normally compromising my own wishes.

I once asked my wife to give just one example of when she didn't have her own way, and she could not. Saying yes to cleaning her parents' home most weekends, changing their bed, fixing things for them, taking their trash out, cleaning their floors - mostly my work. Saying yes to the car we bought, how she wants to spend our money. You name it, I let my wife have her own way and it is nothing to do with being immature. Yes I am immature in many ways, but I am also a fair-minded and responsible, caring person. I have cared for my wife after she had surgeries this year. I would rather not have to do these things, but whatever I might be bad at, I am not going to be a bad husband.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:45 PM

6. what is this broad doing writing for a newspaper?

she should be home scrubbing the toilet.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:52 PM

11. Women can be a help

to other labors in man's adventure.

Even though they are too emotional sometimes as the writer from fox has proven.

I bet they might be emotional about this post.

See?

Emotional.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:46 PM

7. Who would give time to such drivel? Oh. Of course.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:00 PM

17. Yes Drivel written by a woman

she proves her point well

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:47 PM

8. You cut her comment to soon ...

What she actually said was,

arguing that women “like to gather and nest and take care of people” while men “are hunters: they like to build things and kill things including women who don't like to gather and nest and take care of people".

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:49 PM

10. This is why I oppose time travel

Go back to 1950 weird person

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:56 PM

13. Time Travel was Man's invention

HG Wells was a male.


Women will follow us in the concept in time travel.. but only if they bring enough shoes.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:52 PM

12. You mean I've been wrong all these years

by going for sensitive, kind men?

For shame.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:57 PM

14. Interesting

I'm a woman -- been one for nearly 50 years now -- and I can honestly say that I have never felt the urge to be subservient to a man (or to have one be subservient to me for that matter). I've also never felt the urge to "gather" anything, and while I did experience the urge to "nest" (wild, tireless cleaning tear) when pregnant with my children & near delivery, I also like to "hunt" (not animals, mind you, but I have an investigator's mind - a trait I would ascribe to being more akin to "hunting" than "gathering") and build things (I've built several furniture pieces with my own two hands).

You know, I really detest women who think they have a right or even the authority to speak for other women. I'd really like to know who she thinks died and made her the expert on what ALL women want or need in their lives.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:58 PM

15. She should have been in the car with my

ex when he was too drunk to drive, wouldn't give me the keys and drove down US 22 driving west in the east bound lane. She'd find that liberating all right...it would liberate her sphincter muscle.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:05 PM

18. If you had stayed in the kitchen

your pearls would have been safe and the kitchen would have been cleaned.

I guess you can't make your own decisions which proves her point.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:13 PM

20. What pearls?

You are not making any sense.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:30 PM

23. The ones you are clutching.

All women holds jewels made from the irritants of bivalves.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:45 PM

36. I see, more nonsense...

I think reading anything you post must be monumental waste of time....bye.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:15 PM

22. I am so confuuuuuused



Last week they were saying men are merely beasts, led by their hormones and urges and they can't help themselves.

Why would a woman submit to a beast with no self control?

Wouldn't we call her an enabler, a co-dependent, an unstable female?

I am so confuuuuuuused. I think I won't worry my pretty little head about it

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:40 PM

25. Clearly she does not know me. nt

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:42 PM

26. Sexist claptrap from a true neanderthal.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:46 PM

27. BOLLOCKS!

Some men "need" to be dominated by women.

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:50 PM

28. OK I can't resist



I don't know what's gotten into me since I joined DU!

Mah mayun is gonna keeyull me!

Shhhhhhh!!!!!




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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:04 PM

32. LOL

I won't say nuthin!

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:02 PM

30. And that idiot can fight right off. n/t

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

31. Completely superficial bullshit!

I think it is disingenuous to men to suggest that in order for them to feel important, and retain their masculinity, they need women to downplay their own strengths. On the other hand, women are made to feel guilty (you know, called, "feminazi's") for desiring independence and not behaving like someone else's entirely fabricated definition of "feminine".

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:28 PM

34. Finally - now I know what is wrong with me!!! I have run my own life since my divorce in 1966. I

knew I was missing something.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:32 PM

35. Her aunt is Phyllis Schlafly.

I think that says a lot.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:55 PM

37. It doesn't even make sense

Simply idiotic drivel. BOTH people in a relationship need to compromise on things for it to work out. I don't even understand the idea of "sacrificing feminity", what she really means is sacrificing one's individuality and letting someone basically own you. That has not one thing to do with being feminine, whatever that is. People are individuals for God's sake. And I've yet to meet a feminist minded person who was against someone being a full time parent; either mother or father. The TRUTH of modern society is that people don't usually have that option economically.

If she wants to go back to hunter-gatherer times I guarantee she'll break a nail because women worked HARD, everyone worked hard in order for human groups to survive. It is believed that women most likely discovered farming as a way to ensure food supplies. That was a pretty important thing for the human race IMO.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:26 PM

38. Hey, Faux,

Twilight Sparkle has a message for you:

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