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Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:44 AM

"I implore my fellow hippie-commie-socialists to relax and take a breath"

http://www.politicalgarbagechute.com/susan-rice-collateral-damage/

Susan Rice: Collateral Damage
December 6, 2012
by James Schlarmann

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Many of us on the left feel that Kerry should have been wrapping up his second term right about now. So if he could have been the country’s chief executive officer, he most certainly can hold down a post that requires much of the same political savvy and acumen that the Oval Office requires. But I know, Democrats have one major worry about Kerry vacating his seat in the Senate: Scott Brown. I implore my fellow hippie-commie-socialists to relax and take a breath though.

To just assume that Scott Brown will be re-elected to Kerry’s empty seat I think is a paranoid assumption to make.
We were all so worried that Mitt Romney would ride a tidal wave of Koch and Adelson cash into the White House, and yet we all saw the pictures of the Romney Family Thanksgiving, and I didn’t see a whole lot of jubilation in Mitt’s eyes. Now, maybe we dodged a bullet and got lucky. God knows with Citizens United still on the books, outside money could certainly sweep in and push Brown in, but let’s all just chill out a second, okay?

Senator-elect Elizabeth Warren ran a tough, gritty campaign and beat the now outgoing Brown by over seven points. It would be absolutely silly to assume that another Democratic challenger would be taken to lunch by Brown. Clearly the people of Massachusetts looked up from their bowls of chowder and their cream pies (that’s all you New Englanders eat, right?) and said to themselves, “This Scott Brown guy is a total asshole.” So they voted him out. I have a feeling that as long as the Democrats don’t put up Satan McHatesMinorities that they could probably run a similar campaign and thrash Brown again.

Is it a guarantee? No, of course it isn’t. But there are no guarantees in politics. That being said, the momentum in Massachusetts right now is very blue. Appointing Kerry to the Secretary of State seat will surely open up a hotly contested campaign, but given that the final tallies between Warren (who will surely campaign hard for whomever is going for the other seat) and Brown weren’t really all that close, I can’t say I’d call Brown a shoe-in at all. At this point he’s a one-term Senator who got ousted by his constituents after cozying up to the Tea Party too much, despite declaring himself “independent.” My point is that Scott Brown is no longer someone to be feared, even in the Citizens United world. Frankly, if you think Democratic SuperPACs wouldn’t flood the state with money in the race to replace Kerry, you’re probably a bit too naive.

If President Obama cuts Ambassador Rice loose now, yes he is essentially bowing to pressure from the Republicans. As someone who was watched the party that once a long, long time ago I was part of jettison logic, reality and truth in favor of sycophancy, reality-deprivation and outright lies, that’s not a very palatable idea. However, it does happen from time to time that politics claims casualties. And in letting Ambassador Rice off the hook now, he can also focus all his energies squarely on painting the GOP further into their corner on the Fiscal Cliff. Nobody outside the Beltway or Conservative MediaLand thinks Benghazi is a scandal. It was a tragedy. But instead of focusing on the intelligence community’s glaring issues and failures, the GOP is hyper-fixating on Ms. Rice. That can’t be stopped, and sometimes you have to give a little ground in order to take the territory as a whole. It’s time for President Obama to yield now so that he may reap the bigger rewards later.

And there’s nothing wrong with Secretary of State John Kerry. It actually has a very nice ring to it.

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Reply "I implore my fellow hippie-commie-socialists to relax and take a breath" (Original post)
babylonsister Dec 2012 OP
Arkana Dec 2012 #1
Zorra Dec 2012 #2
Arkana Dec 2012 #4
AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #3
babylonsister Dec 2012 #5
Bake Dec 2012 #6
wisteria Dec 2012 #8
Taverner Dec 2012 #7
MBS Dec 2012 #9
YvonneCa Dec 2012 #10
Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #11
babylonsister Dec 2012 #12
Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #14
libodem Dec 2012 #13
NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #15
Overseas Dec 2012 #16

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:47 AM

1. I don't disagree that Kerry would do a superb job at State.

But I was part of that Senate special election, and I have no desire to fight it twice in two years again.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:45 AM

2. It is absolutely not silly to assume that a Centrist Dem candidate could be "taken to lunch"

by Brown.

Here's the thing: Elizabeth Warren was the perfect, absolutely stellar candidate for a Senate seat in MA.

We are going to have to run someone close to her caliber against Brown, someone who has something very near her integrity, intelligence, and genuinely progressive vision and agenda.

If some regressive Blue Dog Third Way Dem impostor gets their primary campaign mega-financed by the same wealthy private interests that finance Brown, and they win the primary, there is a very good possibility they would lose to Brown in general election. And we can count on the Banksters using all of their power and influence to push conservative Third Way corporatist scum for that seat. We'd have a choice of Brown, or Brown in DINO clothing. A win-win for the Banksters.

Many of us who do not live in Massachusetts, including myself, donated to the Warren campaign because we know that Elizabeth is a genuine Progressive Democrat who shares our vision for our country.

I can say with some certainty that we will not be donating to, or supporting, some milquetoast republican lite Blue Dog neo-liberal corporatist schmuck.

I have no serious problems with a SOS Kerry. But Dems in Mass. need to make sure they ride the momentum and put forth a very progressive candidate if they want to get a lock on the vacated Senate seat.

We can't take it for granted that just anyone with a (D) after their name will win. It's a new day. We're going forward.

Progressing.

The Reagan revolution regression is dead and buried.



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Response to Zorra (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:30 PM

4. I don't think we'd have any trouble finding a firebrand for a candidate.

Every one of the MA delegation is a member of the House Progressive Caucus, and Mike Capuano has wanted a Senate seat for a while. If he runs again, I won't make the mistake of opposing him like I did last time.

What I worry about is the same shit from last time--shit-tons of outside money, teabagger foot soldiers pouring in from New Hampshire (no other state has a sizable enough population of them), and low turnout among Democrats--or worse, crossover voting because "1 R + 1 D = bipartisan!"

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:50 AM

3. Holding the Senate in 2014 Will be Tough Enough as it Is

Why risk one of our safest seats?

To just assume that Scott Brown will be re-elected to Kerry’s empty seat I think is a paranoid assumption to make.


Nobody is making such an assumption. It could happen though, even you admit it, and they will have millions of dollars in superpac money to spend attacking our candidate. And who would that be, anyway? We don't really have any good candidates except for the governor, and we don't want to lose another state house either.

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:32 PM

5. Here are some possibilities I ran across...

Massachusetts Democratic Reps. Steven Lynch, Ed Markey and Mike Capuano are all possibilities.

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Former Rep. Marty Meehan, who’s serving as chancellor of the University of Massachusetts Lowell, could run.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021860793
Democrats preparing candidates in case Sen. Kerry moves to Cabinet


And ftr, I hope Sen. Kerry gets to do this; I think good people in the Cabinet are equally important, and I think he's earned it.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:12 PM

6. Actually, there IS one guarantee here:

If Kerry doesn't give up his Senate seat, we are guaranteed not to lose it to Scott Brown.

Bake

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Response to Bake (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:49 AM

8. He shouldn't even be asked to give up a post he has wanted,

simply over silly speculation. He has served the people of Mass. and the Senate honorable for over 20 years. If Senator Kerry is asked and wants the post, he should say yes, and not look back. Everything will be just fine.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:14 PM

7. Hell, I'm worried the MA Dems would run Martha Coakley again...

 

The stupid is strong in some of them...

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:14 AM

9. thanks for posting this

I liked this a lot. Although I've been of the view that Sen. Kerry would have more of an independent voice as chair of SFRC than as SoS, I've become so sick of the constant (and, in the end, pointless) speculation about Obama's impending choice for SoS that I've become more and more resigned to a "It's Obama's choice, not mine; whatever happens will be fine" perspective on this issue. But this article was kind of a fresh take, not so much in overall conclusion, but in tone. Thanks also for the link, as the full, original article was worth reading.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:16 PM

10. Loved this! Thanks for...

...posting it here.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:21 PM

11. I would be a lot more comfortable if some names are tossed out.

Deval Patrick would be a great choice. I haven't seen or heard a peep about who would run against Brown for that seat. It may help take the edge off.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 04:20 PM

12. See post #5 for some potentials... nt

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 05:15 PM

14. Thanks. nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 04:25 PM

13. Yes, it does

Hmmmm? Still thinking about it. If you are sure the pigs won't grab his seat... then maybe.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 05:29 PM

15. I like the sound of Secretary Kerry, whether

he is Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State. I think he would be excellent in either position. However, I also like the sound of Senator Kerry. And let's be honest, once he has been Secretary in any cabinet position he's pretty much done. I'm not really worried about Brown being elected, I think he's also pretty much done. But if Kerry accepts a Cabinet position and another Democrat gets his Senate seat, Kerry will retire. He certainly deserves it, but I don't know if he wants that or if many of us are ready to let him go.

Unless he runs for President again - which I don't think he will, even though I believe he won when he did.

Then again, it is possible that he could accomplish more in 4 years as either SoS or SoD than he ever could as Senator. But I would miss him as Senator. Therefore, I am more than willing to leave it up to him, and the "powers that be".

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 05:39 PM

16. President won MA by 20 points or so but Brown lost by only 8

That's what concerns me.

If the state was going super blue, then Brown would have lost even more definitively.

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