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Thu Dec 6, 2012, 03:34 AM

Oddly anti-climactic, this legal pot thing. Who

wants to buy their dope from the gubmint? In a cellophane package. With a tax stamp. With the government's permission. Regulated, taxed and doled out.

It's almost not cool anymore.

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Reply Oddly anti-climactic, this legal pot thing. Who (Original post)
pnwest Dec 2012 OP
Angleae Dec 2012 #1
Lemonwurst Dec 2012 #2
Fumesucker Dec 2012 #3
green for victory Dec 2012 #4
randome Dec 2012 #8
Recursion Dec 2012 #16
Upton Dec 2012 #5
green for victory Dec 2012 #6
Upton Dec 2012 #10
Bandit Dec 2012 #15
cleanhippie Dec 2012 #19
madokie Dec 2012 #7
RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #9
Upton Dec 2012 #11
Earth_First Dec 2012 #12
Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #14
Buns_of_Fire Dec 2012 #13
jwirr Dec 2012 #17
wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #18
otohara Dec 2012 #20
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #21
pnwest Dec 2012 #22
TheManInTheMac Dec 2012 #23
spanone Dec 2012 #24

Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 04:50 AM

1. Well, if you want that thrill back you can call the FBI and say "I'm smoking pot at home"

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 04:51 AM

2. I do... And I'm not cool anymore either

But what I still am is commonly referred to as "Type A" and pot, when I used it, was a simple, effective way to finally relax.

It being illegal has everything to do with why I haven't had any for the last 15+ years.

I live in MA and really hope we're on the short list of upcoming states to legalize pot.

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 04:59 AM

3. More importantly, who are we going to find to look down on now?

Society will be losing a lot of people we have been using for many years as objects of scorn, there will be a severe scapegoat crisis forthcoming and the next group of scapegoats has yet to be clearly ascertained.

A judgmental and punitive society such as ours cannot function without scapegoats and they will be found somewhere.

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 06:59 AM

4. First the carrot, now the stick

 

Can you say DUID?

Pretty soon, lots of people will know how.

Washington Marijuana DUI Law To Take Effect on December 6, 2012

... I-502 creates a very specific legal standard for Marijuana DUI setting a per se limit of active THC of 5 nanograms per milliliter of blood.

...the new marijuana DUI statute changes how and when the state can pursue a marijuana DUI conviction

Marijuana DUI and Persons Under 21 Years of Age=Zero Tolerance

Effects on Medical Marijuana users

Because the established legal limit is so low, it is very likely that anyone who uses marijuana on a daily basis for medical and therapeutic purposes will find themselves over the new legal limit at virtually all times.

http://www.washingtondui.com/blog/I502-washington-marijuana-dui-law-changes
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DUID: Better hope it doesn't come to your state

You Are Going Directly To Jail: What It Means, Who's Behind It, and Strategies to Prevent It

There's a new front in the "War on Drugs" and its name is DUID.

DUID, short for "driving under the influence of drugs," is the latest buzzword among politicians and police -- however, in this case, words can be deceiving.
http://norml.org/library/item/you-are-going-directly-to-jail


*******

Well intentioned WA voters were sold a sack full of rubbish. The media didn't help, portraying this ridiculous bill as "legalization". Now in the Seattle Times people are asking what the hell the Liquor Control board is doing getting involved. LOL Proof another sucker supporter never bothered to read the actual LAW. The entire cannabis business is now owned lock stock and barrel by the STATE LCB.

This isn't about "legalization" it's about total control and revenue.

Some of those who tried to point this out were mocked, scorned and ignored.

Well now it's time to read and laugh (from another state)

Why not turn the entire Cannabis industry over to the very people that busted down doors, shot pets and ruined lives?

sheesh good luck WA (and don't toke before driving- OR Even the night before--- unless you want to pay)

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Response to green for victory (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:21 AM

8. Many of the proponents of legalization trumpeted the revenue aspects.

So it's difficult to understand why having the state regulate it for money is such a problem for some.

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Response to green for victory (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:27 AM

16. Yeah, let's not regulate food or alcohol, either



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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:06 AM

5. The pot I have in my house is legal today after being illegal yesterday.

personal use and possession of anything up to an oz is now legal in Washington state. For the time being, That's cool enough for me..

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Response to Upton (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:17 AM

6. if you're over 21 and

 

have a receipt proving you bought your little one ounce baggie from a state licensed and taxed (3x) store. Don't have 29 grams! Or it's just like nothing changed. And don't grow a single plant, it's still a felony.

What? There's no state licensed and taxed stores yet?


And the State Licensed stores are going to put their money in FDIC insured banks?

ROFL

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Response to green for victory (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:30 AM

10. What's your problem?

I know the law..I know about the DUI provision...doubt very much if it would have passed otherwise. New Approach Washington did focus groups prior to putting forth the initiative to see what was needed to get voters to say yes.

I realize it's not perfect. I voted for I-502, we very simply weren't going to get everything all at once, but for the time being, this is a hell of a lot better than nothing..

The stores will be happening by approximately this time next year as long as the feds stay out of it..

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Response to green for victory (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:58 AM

15. That is complete BS

Pot will be regulated as alcohol is regulated. Also part of the legalization was the right to grow your own. If you buy wiskey from a different and bring it into Washington they don't have a problem with that...Same as pot, also they can't just draw blood at any ol' time.. I don't know if they have any sort of field tests for marijuanna but I have never heard of any...

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Response to green for victory (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:16 AM

19. WRONG! Please stop making shit up. No receipt is required for anything.

Possession of less than an ounce is no longer a crime. Period.



Have a nice day.


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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:19 AM

7. Even though my lungs won't let me partake any longer

I'd buy some from the feds so I could say I did.

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Response to madokie (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:25 AM

9. Smoking is the old way now.

They have plenty of foods that are medicated along with vaporizers and e-doobies (just like ecig but with hash oil)

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Response to madokie (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:30 AM

11. Use a vaporizer..

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:32 AM

12. This was never about being "cool"

This is about providing an alternative to pharmaceutical induced palliative care for individuals with chronic or terminal health care issues.

My uncle recently died from a rare for of T-cell lymphoma, an extremely painful terminal prognosis.

We encouraged him to self-medicate during his last few months, as the pharmaceuticals and clinical trials made him very ill; vomiting was a horrendous, hour-long conflict for him which left him physically wiped out.

He wouldn't try the marijuana treatment I offered to procure, because even after reading about it's advantages; was illegal in New York State.

But, go on and worry about it not being "cool" anymore... there are a lot of other illegal activities you can engage in to get your fixation of being cool.

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:51 AM

14. +1. I wouldn't mind access to it for stress release alternative. Not for being "cool." Who does

things because they're cool? Young people, I guess. But I'm over 50. I flaunt my non-coolness. I'm proud that I'm independent and not compelled to do things I don't really want to do, just to try to impress people.

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:49 AM

13. Meanwhile, the feds are still mulling it over...

...and there aren't any legal avenues of distribution yet.
Initiative 502, passed last month by Washington voters, legalized recreational marijuana use starting December 6, but it will take a year before there are rules for growing and selling it.

"It begs the question, if they can't buy it through a medical marijuana shop, which only people with a prescription and medical marijuana license can, how do they get it?" Washington State Liquor Control Board spokesman Brian Smith said Wednesday.

Growing and selling marijuana will still be prosecuted as a felony, King County Prosecutor Dan Satterberg told CNN.

"So I'm not sure where you're suppose to get it," Satterberg said. "If you stumble across some on the street or it falls from the sky, then you can have it. Otherwise, you are part of a criminal chain of distribution."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/05/us/washington-marijuana-legalization/?hpt=us_t2

It's a start, but I'd still be casting a wary eye in the direction of Holder and the DOJ to see how they handle it. (I'd expect a Cease and Desist Order, which would wind up in federal court, but IANAL.)

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:49 AM

17. I am wondering if it is big pharma that is waiting to take over the growing and selling end of legal

mj?

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:13 AM

18. competition will imkprove quality IMHOOC!

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:17 AM

20. Beats A Bag Full of Seedy Moldy GradeC Mexican Weed

without the Mexican mafia involved....

Grown in Ft. Collins Colorado suits me just fine.

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:44 AM

21. In CO the law allows you to grow your own.

 

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 03:52 PM

22. Geez Louise, peeps, calm down. Why does EVERY thread have to be a flamefest? I was just saying

my delight in legal recreational marijuana was tampered a bit because now it's controlled by "the man".

This post was about RECREATIONAL marijuana, not medical. I'm THRILLED to pieces that both medical and recreational marijuana is on it's way to being legal, mainstream, available to people who need it, and people who want it. But, until yesterday, I had never considered what it would look like and feel like to go hand open to the government for my pot because now they say it's OK. Just a personal revelation I was sharing.

I was just saying, somehow it's just not the same "fuck authority" action that it once was. Part of the "cool" of it was ABOUT buying, growing, smoking it anyway, because it does so much good for so many people for so many reasons, and that "the man" wasn't going to keep us from it.

I'll miss the subversive, free-love, hippie, counter-culture, anti-establishment side of it. I'm very happy things are moving in the direction of legalization, but I'm going to miss the counter-culture revolution that got us there. I'll be nostalgic for the joy of being in a park, at a concert, and smoking it openly and brazenly in SPITE of the cops being there, because there were so many of us smoking it they couldn't begin to arrest us all.

Doesn't that make sense, without having to get all snarky and indignant about it?

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 04:00 PM

23. With all the threads about the health benefits on DU, it doesn't sound like fun anymore, either.

I just like to get baked, but now people make it sound like eating my vegetables.

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Response to pnwest (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 04:01 PM

24. folks buy their booze from the gubmint with tax stamps and permissions regulated taxed etc`

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