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Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:59 PM

Craziest @#$%ing thing. Suddenly, America agrees with Bernie.

Here's what Bernie said today:

"We have CEOs from Wall Street making millions of dollars a year, coming to Washington and saying were gonna have to cut not only Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid were gonna have to cut benefits for disabled veterans, Sanders said. Let em take that argument to the American people...

We have got to stand tall and say that, in the middle of this recession, weve got 50 million people who have no health insurance at all. We aint gonna cut Medicare. Were not gonna throw children off of Medicaid...

And yes, despite all of the power that our friends on Wall Street have, and the fact that they own many of the politicians here in Washington, some of us are gonna stand with working families, low-income families, disabled veterans and senior citizens.


And it suddenly struck me: Hey! Fuck! America agrees! With gusto! Damn, you bet! Bernie's gone from Socialist nut to truth-teller, even though he hasn't changed a word!

Remember a couple of years ago, when all of Washington from the President down to the Chief Lobbyst for AARP agreed that the only sensible thing to do would be to cut the hell out of adjust Social Security?

Things seem to have changed since the Republicans got pureed in an election that was theirs to lose, given that we're in the fourth year of a depression. They ran on a platform of turning the 99%'s pain up to 11. For the first time in decades, that was not a winning strategy. Seeing this, first weather-vanes like Chuck Schumer and Deval Patrick suddenly turned into Liberals, followed by a bunch of other senators, and seemingly, now the President.

God bless Harry Reid. He's been on the right side the whole time, and proud of it. Nancy Pelosi's been good as well.

Social Security and Medicare are far from secure - Social Security is a huge pot of money that the Predator Class continues to circle with eyes like saucers, saliva pouring from their pie-holes, and their sacks of cold cash are a mighty tempting treat to our elected officials. And Medicare does have an actual problem in that we choose to have health care costs that are twice what others pay.

But American voters have spoken: we're sick of being on the receiving end of forced economic sodomy. We're with Bernie now.

Excelsior!

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Reply Craziest @#$%ing thing. Suddenly, America agrees with Bernie. (Original post)
MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 OP
msongs Dec 2012 #1
JaneyVee Dec 2012 #2
MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #3
Lasher Dec 2012 #8
annabanana Dec 2012 #10
Blecht Dec 2012 #12
immoderate Dec 2012 #13
CTyankee Dec 2012 #14
bvar22 Dec 2012 #16
CTyankee Dec 2012 #17
bvar22 Dec 2012 #18
bvar22 Dec 2012 #15
chazunit Dec 2012 #4
Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #6
amandabeech Dec 2012 #5
Overseas Dec 2012 #7
newfie11 Dec 2012 #9
Blecht Dec 2012 #11
Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #19

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:03 AM

1. only republicans and democratic leadership have not agreed with bernie nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:05 AM

2. Vive La Bernie!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:16 AM

3. Never mind. Apparently I spoke too soon:

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 03:02 AM

8. I was thinking you were being a little too optimistic.

It's good to see the enthusiasm though.

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Response to Lasher (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:12 AM

10. optimism isn't his usual schtick..

(I always look for trenchant snark with manny)

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:36 AM

12. Buzzkill

Well, the hope was nice while it lasted.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 02:34 PM

13. But what does it mean? Is moving to single payer entitlement reform?

How about negotiating drug prices, or raising the cap on payroll tax? These would all be reforms I think.

--imm

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 02:50 PM

14. Not necessarily. Let's see what he has to say first.

Maybe he's going to spotlight the reforms he already offered on entitlements, ones that don't cut entitlements to beneficiaries but do trim Medicare costs. I hope he will really promote those and let the Republicans shout it down, saying "NO! We mean cut beneficiaries!" The American people won't stand for it.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 05:47 PM

16. Do you really believe that Billions can be cut to "Providers"...

...without affecting those who depend on those services?

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:37 PM

17. Not billions but he can also cut defense...we'll see, won't we?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:33 PM

18. Yes. We will see.

Old Chinese Curse:
May you live in interesting times.

We live in interesting times.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 03:41 PM

15. DURec anyway.

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The American People have stood with Bernie On-the-Issues for a long time.

The Will of the People gets distorted beyond recognition when it passes through theTwo Party Controlled binary election system that passes for a "democracy" in the USA.
ALL the Monied Interests have to do is buy BOTH Parties,
and the The People no longer have a voice, and our "elections" are reduced to nothing but Kabuki Theater scripted to foster the illusion of a "choice".

Will our newly re-elected President lead the American People in populist movement that returns the Democratic Party to the traditional Working Class values of FDR/LBJ ?
The Army and the Mandate for this reform movement are THERE like a great sword of justice laying at his feet,
and the Time is Right after a 30 year swing to the hard Conservative Right.

Will he take up this Sword and LEAD?

or

...... more of the same?


There is room for some hope here.

Hope for the Best,
but plan for the Worst.
My Wife & I moved to The Woods and started growing our own food.




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:23 AM

4. Guess what?

 

I have receipts for decades of deductions from my earnings! How dare repugs and their like call this an entitlement! Nope, it was a deal that I participated in because they told me it would be mine later, like a bank account or an investment without taxation there for me when I eventually claimed it.

Bad enough for business to destroy social contracts. This is my social contract with the government and I hold the receipts.

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Response to chazunit (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:38 AM

6. It is an entitlement because you're entitled to it. Only the Rs could make entitlement a bad word.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:33 AM

5. Bernie for VP in 2016!

I'd say Bernie for P, but I think that he's getting up there.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:47 AM

7. Wall Street thinks it is entitled to wild speculation-- a tiny transaction tax would be serious

entitlement reform!

As would giving Medicare the chance to negotiate bulk rates for prescription drugs.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:09 AM

9. Bernie is one of very few voices of sanity out there

Maybe it will spread.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:31 AM

11. Spectacular post!

So well written -- you really nailed it.

It almost gives me hope.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:41 PM

19. Hell Yes! We're with Bernie!

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