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Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:50 PM

Can and should DU make a Super PAC?

I mean, it seems to be the "in thing," and a way to have substantial influence on issues such as removing corporate money from elections -and even the elimination of super PACs with a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United. It can use the members to attain money and campaign in favor of progressive causes. Once it's goals have been achieved, it will no longer exist. As far as I'm concerned, as long as huge right wing super PACs exist, we need to do what we can to counter their sway.

What do you guys think? Vote on it?

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Reply Can and should DU make a Super PAC? (Original post)
Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 OP
nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #1
Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 #2
RC Jan 2012 #3
Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 #5
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #4
Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 #6
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #11
SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #7
Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 #8
SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #9
Tiggeroshii Jan 2012 #10
Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #12
RC Jan 2012 #13

Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:52 PM

1. I think two would be needed

so those who don't want Obama to have a second term don't get their panties in a bunch.

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Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:54 PM

2. well that's the thing, it doesn't even need to campaign for Obama

just for overturning Citizens United, Alternative Energy, Public Unions, and anything else that would sit well with the vast majority of DUers.

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:54 PM

3. DU is going to come up with the billion$ needed to buy election$?

 

Good luck with that. Not even the million$ needed to buy congre$$ critters.

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Response to RC (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:58 PM

5. Who said anything about buying elections?

It simply gives a means to raise money from DUers, and advocate for the issues that we care about with whatever cash is raised. Obviously it doesn't need to be large ad purchases, just whatever might work within DU's budget. Super PACs are very easy to create, and the incorporation of one does not necessitate the kind of sway that groups like Karl Rove's PAC will have.

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:58 PM

4. Isn't this a self-contradicting proposition?

In order to form a PAC you have to incorporate so the members are not personally liable. Surely, you're not suggesting the people of DU should risk their homes, personal finances and whatnot to frivilous lawsuits.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:00 PM

6. Of course, that's what a super pac is... "incorporated." Right?

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:32 PM

11. Yes.

But it seems doomed (to rhetorical failure at least) to seek legal protections you would deny to others.

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:01 PM

7. Who the fuck has money to put into politics?

I'm lucky if my bills get paid after an 80 hour week.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:03 PM

8. A lot of us contribute to DU

What if we also contributed to something that can become a unified political voice reflecting our overwhelming position on most things?

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:24 PM

9. Well I can't afford it.

That's probably where the divide is on DU. Right down the dollar sign.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:27 PM

10. Obviously I'm just throwing out ideas

But I agree with most of us here that it would probably be best if we can overturn citizens United leading by the example that we would want such a move to result in.

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:40 PM

12. We would never agree on what to endorse.

 

Let alone who.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:32 PM

13. Ya got that correct.

 

We can not even agree on what a Liberal is. Let alone a Democrat.

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