I am tired of arguing

[pdx_prog]

with friends that live in the southeast (more south then east) about why requiring a photo ID at a polling place is disenfranchising voters.

But the biggest argument I have had lately is with these insane people that believe anyone on government assistance should have to submit to a UA before getting benefits, and that they should be randomly tested because they are "tired of paying tax dollars to support these deadbeat's drug habit".

I have become sick to my stomach trying to talk sense into these people....Argggh!

[Motown_Johnny]

1. can't you just ask if the Founders had photo I.D.s?

[Motown_Johnny]

6. No, the Founders did not have photos

that was the point

[Motown_Johnny]

8. because the changes have been to include more in the process

and these laws do the exact opposite.

It is also a poll tax because these things are not free and poll taxes are illegal

[barbtries]

2. it is discouraging

too much corporate and fox media and this country is turning meaner and meaner by the day.

[Louisiana1976]

3. I'd argue back that if people on government assistance have to submit to UA's

so should members of Congress and the Senate.

[Hugabear]

5. Or corporations receiving government tax cuts and subsidies

After all, corporations are now people...and should be held to the same standards as somebody who is receiving unemployment or food stamps.

[surrealAmerican]

9. You need to counter that you don't want ...

... your tax dollars going to drug testing firms when it should be feeding the hungry and housing the homeless.