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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:45 PM

Something big just happened in Egypt right now. Something very big. (Pt 2)

100s of Thousands of Tahrir Protesters are back (the last estimate I saw in a news article was 200,000+), President Morsi has fled the Palace, the Central Security Forces abandoned their posts and many removed their uniforms and joined the people to protest.

It's 3am there now but a vigilant contingent has erected tents in Tahrir and in front of the palace again.



Livestream:

ONtv Live from #Cairo. Thousands in Tahrir Sq. http://www.livestream.com/ontveglive #Anonymous #OSF #OO #OWS #OpGlobalSpring engaged!




PS, Dear God, please don't let this turn into another one of those 2 week running, 1001 part threads. Please.

Link to Part 1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021926897


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Reply Something big just happened in Egypt right now. Something very big. (Pt 2) (Original post)
Catherina Dec 2012 OP
AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #1
Catherina Dec 2012 #3
madinmaryland Dec 2012 #2
Catherina Dec 2012 #4
riverwalker Dec 2012 #5
riverwalker Dec 2012 #6
riverwalker Dec 2012 #7
Catherina Dec 2012 #10
Catherina Dec 2012 #8
Catherina Dec 2012 #9
Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #11
Octafish Dec 2012 #12
Catherina Dec 2012 #13
Catherina Dec 2012 #14
Coyotl Dec 2012 #15
Catherina Dec 2012 #16
Coyotl Dec 2012 #22
Live and Learn Dec 2012 #29
slackmaster Dec 2012 #17
Catherina Dec 2012 #21
leftstreet Dec 2012 #18
Catherina Dec 2012 #19
Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #20
UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #23
alfredo Dec 2012 #26
Catherina Dec 2012 #28
Catherina Dec 2012 #27
druidity33 Dec 2012 #24
alfredo Dec 2012 #25
Catherina Dec 2012 #30
pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #35
Catherina Dec 2012 #38
pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #39
alfredo Dec 2012 #53
Catherina Dec 2012 #43
Catherina Dec 2012 #31
Catherina Dec 2012 #32
Catherina Dec 2012 #33
Catherina Dec 2012 #34
Catherina Dec 2012 #36
Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #37
Catherina Dec 2012 #41
pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #42
Catherina Dec 2012 #44
pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #47
AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #48
pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #49
Catherina Dec 2012 #50
pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #51
Catherina Dec 2012 #40
AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #45
Catherina Dec 2012 #46
Catherina Dec 2012 #52
Dokkie Dec 2012 #54

Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:47 PM

1. It Must be Really Big, Part 1 Was Too Big for my Browser to Load

I only have 8 gig of memory and a terrabyte of hard disk.

This one loads, but is somewhat mystifying.

No idea what it's about, there isn't any audio and all the text crawling by is in Arabic.

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:51 PM

3. I'm so sorry. Basically Morsi has fled the palace and the protestors have taken over Tahrir Square

They're not done with their revolution.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:49 PM

2. What are you talking about??? Makes no sense.

ETA: Thanks for the link. Makes a bit more sense now.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:55 PM

4. Thanks. I edited the post to try to make it clearer. n/t

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:56 PM

5. wow

beautiful

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:01 PM

6. was not aware....amazing

TheBigPharaohThe Big Pharaoh8h


TV picture showing both Tahrir & Presidential Palace from a high place. Stunning. Unbelievable. شوفوا دي. pic.twitter.com/YERvJQeS

:large

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:07 PM

7. video of Morsey leaving palace


Thx @SultanAlQassemi for this exclusive footage of #Morsy motorcade leaving amidst protesters shouting IRHAL! Leave!

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:22 PM

10. Beautiful! n/t

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:14 PM

8. 3 am, yet another march heading to the presidential palace &another one heading to #Tahrir

Heba Farouk Mahfouz. ‏@HebaFarooq

it's 3 am & there is yet another march heading to the presidential palace &another one heading to #Tahrir I love my crazy Cairo people

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:21 PM

9. Gorgeous Pic: Marching on the presidential palace


Marching on the presidential palace مسيرة العباسية تصل كوبري القبة في طريقها إلى الإتحادية by Hossam el-Hamalawy حسام الحملاوي / © Some rights reserved.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:28 PM

11. More demonstrations? I think Morsi still has the votes.

Referendum on the constution in less than two weeks.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:32 PM

12. Democracy at work.





Protesting Morsi: Egypt’s Constitutional Court Closes

By Ria Novosti
Global Research, December 04, 2012

Egypt’s Supreme Constitutional Court has halted its work “indefinitely” after protesters prevented justices from getting to their offices on Sunday morning.

The court building is being blockaded by protesters who support President Mohamed Morsi and his November 22 “Constitutional Declaration.”

The justices “were not able to get into the court building and do their job because of the massed people blocking the way and shouting threats (against them),” the court said in a statement announced on Egyptian television.

The halt indefinitely postpones a court decision on whether to dissolve both the commission that drafted the new Constitution and the Shura Council, the upper house of parliament.

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/protesting-morsi-egypts-constitutional-court-closes/5313873



May the Egyptian people transition safely to a better way of governance.

Thanks for the heads-up, Catherina! Very, very great to read you!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:48 PM

13. And very great to see you

Though I read you a lot here, with admiration. I was just trying not to get sucked in again lol.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:50 PM

14. Pic: 2.40am #PalaceMarch walking back through town. It's a big march

The march is heading to Tahrir right now.


lfkraus ‏@lfkraus

MT @Egyptocracy: 2.40am EET #PalaceMarch walking back through town. It's a big march. #Egypt #Tahrir screenshot f OnTV: pic.twitter.com/OcnlzBnR

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:53 PM

15. So, will the Constitution pass or fail?

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:54 PM

16. It will pass over their dead bodies is the feeling I'm getting. n/t

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Response to Catherina (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:14 PM

22. That seems incendiary.

What happened to democracy? Being a minority in a democracy means you get to live, right?

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:44 PM

29. Not necessarily. It is all about the social contract.

If you break it and make the masses mad, there are no guarantees.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:55 PM

17. Catherina, I truly appreciate your dispatches!

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:10 PM

21. There you go, sweet-talking me

to suck me back in and I see Luminous Animal in on the act too

Thank you. I love doing it and appreciate the support

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:56 PM

18. These really aren't the same protestors from Arab Spring

Nor are the issues the same

But it's certainly newsworthy

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:56 PM

19. 11 Newspapers refuse to print in protest .... 3 television channels also

Jano Charbel ‏@JanoCharbel

#Egypt: 11 Newspapers refuse to print in protest against tyranny http://www.france24.com/en/20121204-egypt-press-refuses-print-protest-tyranny … #Journalism #Press #PressFreedom #Strike #FuckMorsi!



I lost the tweet about the TV channels but it was there

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:05 PM

20. Kick.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:56 PM

23. Thanks for keeping us up to date.

 

I can tell you that protesting with the NYPD walking around with clubs was scary enough. Those people are BRAVE!

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:34 PM

26. Tear Gas is good for the sinuses. It really clears your head.

Billy clubs help you focus on what is important.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:43 PM

28. Well said sadly. n/t

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:43 PM

27. +1 n/t

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:03 PM

24. K&R and thank you! nt.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:47 PM

30. OMG CNN!

"The Freedom and Justice Party -- an Islamist political group that has links to the Muslim Brotherhood -- is the party of President Mohamed Morsy."

links? links? That's like saying the Democratic Party has *links* to Obama.


"Morsy was not at the palace when the protesters descended, his office said. He was out meeting with government officials, they said."

LMAO!

"They feel the constitution does not sufficiently protect freedom of the press and, on Tuesday, a dozen partisan and privately-owned papers were not on the newsstands in protest."

Really? Is that all CNN?

Thanks for posting this Alfredo. Great pics



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Response to Catherina (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:58 AM

35. Morsi's officials don't seem to be able to get their stories straight

Two more versions of his departure from the palace:

.... Morsi was in the palace conducting business as usual while the protesters gathered outside. But he left for home through a back door when the crowds "grew bigger," according to a presidential official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

The official said Morsi left on the advice of security officials at the palace and to head off "possible dangers" and to calm protesters. Morsi's spokesman, however, said the president left the palace at the end of his work schedule through the door he routinely uses.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57557045/egypt-protesters-swell-to-over-100000/



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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:26 AM

38. I noticed that lol.

my friend. Like old times again eh?

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Response to Catherina (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:33 AM

39. LOL!

I was tempted to post in the first thread to ask when we'd see Part 2.

The Jan. 25 Revolution continues!



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Response to Catherina (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:18 PM

53. I wonder how Faux Neuz is reporting it?

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Response to alfredo (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:20 AM

43. Excellent Egyptian response to CNN's dishonest reporting



with thanks to riverwalker

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:31 AM

31. 25 million? (seems a bit high but what do I know)

shaimaa khalil ‏@Shaimaakhalil

Crowds outside presidential palace in #Cairo ...I haven't seen anything like this before..Not even in #Jan25 #Egypt




حــريــتــى حــريــتــى ‏@NeveenCavalli

25mil Egyptians fill streets and sq's of #Egypt cities to protest #Morsi decree.This crowd is outside president palace



Mostafa Sheshtawy ‏@msheshtawy

Walking side by side with people who believe in the cause. Chanting at the top of your lungs, the ground shakes. This is #jan25



Bassem Sabry باسم ‏@Bassem_Sabry

The spirit in #Tahrir is very charged, very determined. This is the spirit of #Jan25.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:36 AM

32. message to #Morsi, listen & don't play deaf! (video)

Nehaya Nashed ‏@nehayanashed

A message to #Morsi, listen & don't play deaf! أنا الشعب !!! via @shehabmarzban #NowPlaying #Egypt #Tahrir #Etehadeya

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:40 AM

33. Mubarak with a beard? Excellent read of new dynamics between #USA and #Egypt

Petra Stienen ‏@petra_stienen

Mubarak with a beard? Excellent read of new dynamics between #USA and #Egypt http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/12/04/mubarak_with_a_beard?page=full



Mubarak with a Beard?
The United States needs to tell Egypt's new president that there's no going back to the old, bad ways.
BY MICHAEL WAHID HANNA | DECEMBER 4, 2012


...

In a move that bears the hallmark of U.S. policy in the Mubarak era, the United States has largely reduced its relationship with Egypt to the maintenance of the peace treaty with Israel and withheld serious judgment of the Muslim Brotherhood-led government, even as it actively undermines the country's already troubled democratic transition.

...

The crisis deepened when the president directed the assembly to ram through a governing document in a chaotic, all-night session that made a mockery of deliberative constitutional process and design. If approved in a hastily called referendum, that slipshod document will bound Egypt's political future and institutionalize its crisis. With a significant portion of the country's judges declaring a strike in response to Morsy's declaration and dueling protesters mobilizing on opposing sides, Egypt's flawed transition now risks tipping into outright civil strife and prolonged instability.

...

Morsy's actions presented the United States with a difficult choice: Should it challenge an elected Egyptian president just as the two countries have begun to reconstruct bilateral ties? This choice was complicated further by the close cooperation and pragmatism displayed by Morsy and his government in securing a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip last month. These efforts won the Egyptian president newfound confidence in Washington, and administration officials were quick to shower him with praise.

...

Morsy's moves were particularly damaging to the United States since he made his initial announcement the day after meeting with Clinton to finalize details of the Gaza ceasefire. The timing raised the unfounded specter among already suspicious Egyptians that the Brotherhood had cleared their undemocratic power play with the now-grateful Americans.

....

Read more: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/12/04/mubarak_with_a_beard?page=full

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:43 AM

34. True soldiary in #Egypt this video shows it all

John Nashed ‏@jnashed

True soldiary in #Egypt this video shows it all &sns=em …

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:24 AM

36. More CSF heading to Pres Palace now

Menna منّة ‏@TheMiinz

More CSF heading to Pres Palace now, next to Koleya Harbeya stadium in Heliopolis. #Egypt #Morsy

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:24 AM

37. K&R! Thank you very much for the information!

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:49 AM

41. You're welcome. It's a pleasure. Besides I can't help it being a revolution addict lol

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Response to Catherina (Reply #41)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:13 AM

42. I remember when you started it all...with tweets :)

Wait...do you hear that, Catherina? I think they're playing your song...






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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #42)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:26 AM

44. Yes! Yes, that's exactly it!

And it was Sabrina 1 who sucked me into that whole twitter thing. Not sure if I should be grateful or resentful lol!

It's good to see the same old faces, like yours, supporting this

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Response to Catherina (Reply #44)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:01 AM

47. Sabrina! I should have known!

She'll subvert you, convert you and extrovert you!!!

She's out in my neck of the woods, so I may run into her IRL sometime. So far, I've met 6 other DUers in Occupy L.A. actions, and in every case I was more impressed by them IRL than I was from just knowing them here in cyberspace.

We had some disagreements among the original crew on your Egypt Revolution threads, but all of us still shared the same hopes and goals for the Egyptian people. And none of us wants to see the Revolution subverted.

Hugs, back, Catherina . Great to see you here again!

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #47)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:17 AM

48. Hey pinboy, haven't see you in a while...how goes it?

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #48)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:23 AM

49. Hangin' in there, Joe

Hope you're doing alright, too. Like Catherina, looks like we're all playing the same song...






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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #47)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:32 AM

50. These things take time. There's a lot of capital and geopolitical issues at stake

but the delightful thing is they're still marching on.

When you do see Sabrina, if you do, give her the in-real-life hug that I can't. And a big one for you too

I'm going to bed now. 3:30am.

It seems Morsi is back at the palace right now but things seem calm. Think it's safe to go to bed? Goodnight my friend. It's great to be working with you again.

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Response to Catherina (Reply #50)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:16 AM

51. Goodnight, my friend

Though I don't even remember how many nights I forewent sleep to stay up and follow Your Egypt Revolution threads! Not to mention the crazy hours for some 7 months working with joshcryer and others on the Libyan Revolution threads.

But I think you're probably safe going to bed tonight. If anything shakes out, we'll be sure to alert you with...



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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:36 AM

40. AJA: "opposition to Morsi is funded by Iran"

Mohammad ‏@Falasteeni

AJA host @kasimf just said opposition to Morsi is funded by Iran. Then he mocked his guest who pointed out Qatar funds MB. #Egypt




Lol!

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Response to Catherina (Reply #40)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:26 AM

45. Whoever this kasimf moron is, he's talking out of his ass.

If anything at all, Iran and the M.B. might actually be friends; they've been helping arm Hamas in Gaza for starters, which, btw, is an offshoot of said organization.....certainly, they're not enemies by any stretch of the imagination.

And, also, Qatar is funding the MB? Very interesting. Thanks for keeping us updated, Catherina.

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #45)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:39 AM

46. Totally surreal

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 09:53 AM

52. Dec 5 Updates in a new thread

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 08:24 AM

54. K&R

 

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