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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:32 PM

 

Salmon genetically modified to grow twice as fast as normal could soon be on your plate

WASHINGTON —Salmon that's been genetically modified to grow twice as fast as normal could soon show up on your dinner plate. That is, if the company that makes the fish can stay afloat.

After weathering concerns about everything from the safety of humans eating the salmon to their impact on the environment, Aquabounty was poised to become the world's first company to sell fish whose DNA has been altered to speed up growth.

The Food and Drug Administration in 2010 concluded that Aquabounty's salmon was as safe to eat as the traditional variety. The agency also said that there's little chance that the salmon could escape and breed with wild fish, which could disrupt the fragile relationships between plants and animals in nature. But more than two years later the FDA has not approved the fish, and Aquabounty is running out of money.

"It's threatening our very survival," says CEO Ron Stotish, chief executive of the Maynard, Mass.-based company. "We only have enough money to survive until January 2013, so we have to raise more. But the unexplained delay has made raising money very difficult."

More: http://www.kjonline.com/news/Fast-growing-salmon-may-never-show-up-on-your-plate-.html

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Reply Salmon genetically modified to grow twice as fast as normal could soon be on your plate (Original post)
UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 OP
BlueToTheBone Dec 2012 #1
SoapBox Dec 2012 #4
Care Acutely Dec 2012 #2
Jazzgirl Dec 2012 #3
Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #5
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #16
NoOneMan Dec 2012 #6
Motown_Johnny Dec 2012 #7
kentauros Dec 2012 #10
UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #12
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #13
proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #14
UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #19
proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #20
Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #17
yellowcanine Dec 2012 #21
NoOneMan Dec 2012 #18
kentauros Dec 2012 #8
Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #9
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #11
littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #15

Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:38 PM

1. Not my plate

I'm sorry to hear that salmon has become frankenfood.

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Response to BlueToTheBone (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:43 PM

4. Ditto.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:40 PM

2. Vegetarian.

A choice I see reaffirmed, every day.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:43 PM

3. Here's a teeny tiny violin for ya Aquabounty.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:43 PM

5. Not on my plate.

Wild Alaskan salmon all the way.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:30 PM

16. Not to mention what "farmed" fish are FED.

Anyone ever looked that up?
I did.
And unless Blue sends me salmon as a Christmas present,* I will continue to not eat it.

* hint hint hint

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:51 PM

6. How long until this DNA makes it into nature?

 

What a cluster.

Its not enough for salmon farms to breed viruses, but now they have to offer another method of screwing with natural salmon stocks.

Salmon are one of the most amazing things that this system has produced, and the species has been quantified, reduced and altered for growing civilization. Its appalling but its what civilization does.

Now its is literally in the financial best interests if natural salmon stocks decline, though the environmental impact will be devastating (hey, it already is)

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:56 PM

7. Sounds yummy.

You guys do understand that we don't break down the DNA of what we eat and then incorporate it into our own, don't you?

The fear of genetically altered foods is completely irrational.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:03 PM

10. However,

lab-modified genes pollute natural ecosystems. And since our bodies don't break their DNA down, then we're just polluting the ecosystems faster through our own wastes.

What's so heinous about eating less meat in one's diet anyway?

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:05 PM

12. How do you know for sure?

 

http://isaaa.org/resources/publications/pocketk/17/default.asp

The “sharing” of DNA among living forms is well documented as a natural phenomenon. For thousands of years, genes have moved from one organism to another. For example, Agrobacterium tumefaciens, a soil bacterium known as ‘nature’s own genetic engineer’, has the natural ability to genetically engineer plants. It causes crown gall disease in a wide range of broad-leaved plants, such as apple, pear, peach, cherry, almond, raspberry, and roses. The disease gains its name from the large tumor-like swellings (galls) that typically occur at the crown of the plant, just above soil level. Basically, the bacterium transfers part of its DNA to the plant, and this DNA integrates into the plant’s genome, causing the production of tumors and associated changes in plant metabolism.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:09 PM

13. You do understand nobody knows for certain what genes introduced from one species into an entirely

 

different species will actually do, don't you?

There is no way to know what sort of side effects will occur from that. No way to know what those effects might be twenty years down the road for people who consume such organisms.

Plus, these fish WILL be introduced into the wild. The question is not "if" it is "when".

Nobody ever believed the Asian Carp could make it to the Great Lakes.

Nobody ever considered the consequences of South American and African Cichlidae being introduced into the Everglades.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:11 PM

14. You're discounting the risk of horizontal gene transfer from GMO food into gut bacteria.

Read site search: Bt toxin pregnant women

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:24 PM

19. GM food toxins found in the blood of 93% of unborn babies

 

By Sean Poulter
The Daily Mail
20 May 2011

GM firms claimed toxins were destroyed in the gut

Toxins implanted into GM food crops to kill pests are reaching the bloodstreams of women and unborn babies, alarming research has revealed.

A landmark study found 93 per cent of blood samples taken from pregnant women and 80 per cent from umbilical cords tested positive for traces of the chemicals.

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It is not known what, if any, harm this causes but there is speculation it could lead to allergies, miscarriage, abnormalities or even cancer.

To date the industry has always argued that if these toxins were eaten by animals or humans they would be destroyed in the gut and pass out of the body, thus causing no harm.

More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1388888/GM-food-toxins-blood-93-unborn-babies.html

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 09:35 AM

20. Good work! This is completely unacceptable.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:34 PM

17. Given that farmed salmon already tastes like crap, I can't imagine this can be much better.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 10:59 AM

21. Don't eat it then. I think it tastes great. And I suspect that you could not tell the

difference in a blind taste test between farmed salmon and wild salmon cooked exactly the same way.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:06 PM

18. Unless they escape

 

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:00 PM

8. Not on my plate.

Even if they did come from a fish-bush or pescatree.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:01 PM

9. No thank you. I'd rather eat line caught very expensive salmon once a year.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:05 PM

11. Not my plate

 

The moment Frankenfish hit the market is the moment I stop eating all salmon that I do not catch myself.

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