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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:37 PM

Just like I said about the NRA.

They are whipping up hysterics about non-existent "conspiracies" to grab guns.

National Rifle Association executive vice president and columnist Wayne LaPierre has unveiled a new conspiracy theory, alleging that NBC sportscaster Bob Costas' discussion of the murder-suicide involving NFL player Jovan Belcher was part of a plan by "media conglomerates" to ban guns.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/12/04/nra-leader-links-bob-costas-comments-to-media-c/191676

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Reply Just like I said about the NRA. (Original post)
Archae Dec 2012 OP
graham4anything Dec 2012 #1
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #4
graham4anything Dec 2012 #6
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #8
graham4anything Dec 2012 #9
randr Dec 2012 #2
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #7
randr Dec 2012 #10
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12
Hoyt Dec 2012 #11
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13
Hoyt Dec 2012 #22
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #24
Hoyt Dec 2012 #26
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #27
Logical Dec 2012 #15
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #16
Logical Dec 2012 #17
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #19
madinmaryland Dec 2012 #21
TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #3
Kolesar Dec 2012 #5
Logical Dec 2012 #14
oldhippie Dec 2012 #18
Hoyt Dec 2012 #23
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #25
neverforget Dec 2012 #20

Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:41 PM

1. Now is the time for Mike Bloomberg to hold a publicized meeting with Bob Costas

 

the NRA is like the Berlin wall, in the process of coming down.

or perhaps like the Knights who say Ni.

they are sweating bullets, but they won't admit it.

won't be quick or easy, but it is happening.

all that is needed is a complete reframing.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:06 PM

4. Why do you hate Costas so much?

Do you have any idea what the felony rate for Mikey and the MAIG are?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:17 PM

6. there are more people than you think against guns and the NRA

 

they never though had a million dollar suit providing soundbytes

just like James Baker kept saying there was a count, and a recount, and people used that mantra ad nauseum
except for the fact that the only recount that mattered was stopped by the US Supreme Court
12/12/2000

had the dems had a better spokesperson back then, who outspent and outshouted BAker, the perception would have gone the other way

Now the NRA has the great Equalizer

and like Snow White sang the people are singing "Some day my Prince will come"
well the prince known as mayor mike has arrived.

many people used to smoke. they don't know.
and they didn't even need to ban cigarettes.

it's like a flu shot.
not everybody needs to get it
but if enough get it, it puts a ring around the flu and gives them nowhere to hold

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:38 PM

8. Your ongoing public worship of one of the worst 1%ers is really demeaning

Does Mikey even know of your infatuation?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:41 PM

9. millions like us

 

there used to be a duo music group titled milliions like us
does that mean millions liked them
or there are millions like us

so I saw them in concert, then I asked the lead singer
and got my answer

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:46 PM

2. NRA BoD along with the french guy

are major shareholders of the investment firm that has bought most arms manufacturers over the last few years. I can't remember the name but it is easy to find.
The only reason they defend the 2nd amendment is to sell arms and they have no moral thoughts on the consequences.

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Response to randr (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:26 PM

7. BoD members are elected at large

Which of the NRA BoD members do you think are major shareholders in what holding company? IIRC there are 75 of them, including celebrities. Are all of them "major stockholders" or are you just shooting your mouth off?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:42 PM

10. Check out Cerberus Capital Management

and see for yourself

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Response to randr (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:01 PM

12. I am well aware of Cerberus and Dan Quayle's involvement there

Which of its major shareholders are on the NRA BoD? Your unquantified claim earlier would mean all 75 are major shareholders, specious on the face of it. Do you even know who is on the NRA BoD?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:57 PM

11. NRA leadership are the worst of right wingers - Norquist, Bolton, Nugent, North,

gun profiteers, and worse.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:11 PM

13. Where are the profits?

You can claim what your want about the philosophies, but if you are claiming profits, show some numbers and not just spout hyperbole.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:31 PM

22. The profits inure to the right wingers, gun manufacturers, etc. You are very naive, or just


protective of your guns.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:05 PM

24. The claim the prior poster made were preposterous...your are ludicrous

Which of the 75 (isn't that an insane number) of the NRA BoD members are profiting by being a major shareholder?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:32 PM

26. They are all using/pandering to gun culture.

They are no better than Limbaugh, etc.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:31 PM

27. Of course they are...they are the NRA BoD. They chose to lead the NRA.

That is about the silliest thing I have ever seen you post and it still has nothing to do with the context of the subthread about a silly claim.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:20 PM

15. Ted Nugent is on the board. They are all really right wing idiots. n-t

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Response to Logical (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:26 PM

16. But is he a major stockholder in Cerberus?

Which was the claim. What about the other 75?

Nugent is an idiot, the others worse, but when people make preposterous claims, they need to be called on it.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:32 PM

17. I don't know anything about shareholders. But if I was Ruger I would have 100 bloggers full time...

posting on forums discussing rumors about Obama taking the gun away. The right wing gun nuts are so fucking gullible it is unbelievable!

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Response to Logical (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:44 PM

19. IIRC Ruger is already sold out for the year and has been for some time.

The rumor mill is freaking amazing. This is a good time to sell...

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Response to Logical (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:05 PM

21. Anyone that supports an entity that is highly regarded by Ted Nugent might need

their head examined.

ETA: Ted Nugent - A draft dodging asshole, much like his buddy Rush Limbaugh. FUCKING CHICKEN HAWKS. Just like their gods: Wayne LaPierre and Grover Norquist.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:59 PM

3. More bunk from Wayne Lapyourrear

and his drones continue to eat it up.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:11 PM

5. NRA opposed Bush's media consolidation plans when Congress voted on it

They believed that the media would launch a campaign to confiscate all guns after one of America's frequent mass murders.

I dropped the NRA's name when I talked to the phone contact at my gop congressman's office when I phoned in my opposition. I thought it would help since the GOP and NRA are so tight.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:19 PM

14. The NRA is a bunch of right wing idiots! Ted Nugent is on their board. Enough said! n-t

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Response to Logical (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:40 PM

18. No, that's not enough said .......

The claim was made that "NRA BoD along with the french guy are major shareholders of the investment firm..." Said firm later identified as Cerberus. I call the question. I want to see some cites showing which board members are "major stockholders" or I call the poster incredible.

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Response to oldhippie (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:36 PM

23. Here are your NRA friends trying to defeat Obama and other good Dems.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/nra-obama-gun-control_n_2003446.html


Who cares whether those despicable right wingers own stock in that particular company. Nugent, Norquist, Bolton, gun manufacturers, etc., are damn sure promoting right wing bigotry, greed and callousness. Even you cannot deny that.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:17 PM

25. Read for content for a change

Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)

This subthread is about a specious claim made earlier. Your strawmen are not topical and further add to you looking foolish.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:47 PM

20. Wayne LaPierre is as crazy as Ted Nugent nt

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