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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:14 PM

 

Asimov on the Tea Partiers.

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Reply Asimov on the Tea Partiers. (Original post)
Whovian Dec 2012 OP
TDale313 Dec 2012 #1
hfojvt Dec 2012 #17
mrsadm Dec 2012 #2
Whovian Dec 2012 #4
jtuck004 Dec 2012 #21
daleanime Dec 2012 #3
Archae Dec 2012 #5
progressoid Dec 2012 #6
colsohlibgal Dec 2012 #7
PavePusher Dec 2012 #8
Festivito Dec 2012 #9
demwing Dec 2012 #13
AlbertCat Dec 2012 #15
Festivito Dec 2012 #22
clydefrand Dec 2012 #10
CrazyOrangeCat Dec 2012 #11
The Doctor. Dec 2012 #12
patrice Dec 2012 #14
edhopper Dec 2012 #16
Whovian Dec 2012 #19
Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #18
pipewrench Dec 2012 #20
BootinUp Dec 2012 #23

Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:20 PM

1. Great quote. Thanks. n/t

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:18 PM

17. almost a year later

and I STILL don't think it is a good quote, but the Jets still love it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002199876#post2

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:20 PM

2. There was a book published way back in 1966 about anti-intellectualism in American Life

I read this in high school:
"Anti-intellectualism in American Life" by Richard Hofstadter

"The age of philosophy has passed...that of utility has commenced..." said an orator at Yale in 1844. Richard Hofstadter uses this telling quote and well as a wealth of other information to show how a thread of anti-intellectualism runs through the history and culture of "practical" America. He dissects anti-intellectualism, goes into its history and origins in the US, and shows its impact in education, politics, and business. This thorough analysis won him the 1964 Pulitzer Prize in Non-Fiction."

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Response to mrsadm (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:26 PM

4. I have never read that but it sounds interesting enough to hunt down. n/t

 

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Response to mrsadm (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:42 PM

21. Among the worst of college degrees for people who want to have a career, phlosophy and religion.


Likelihood of working retail: 2.0 times average,

Here.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:21 PM

3. Classic...

and sadly true.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:34 PM

5. Asimov wrote an essay about "The Cult Of Ignorance" back in the 50's.

He took to task the most prevelant mass media of the day, the movies.
In the movie he looked at, a woman is doing research, but she isn't "happy" until Mr Tall Dark and Handsome sweeps her off her feet and carries her off.

Even our presidential campaigns are still stuck in the Eisenhower mode, back then Adlai Stevenson was derided as an "egghead."
Meanwhile..."We like Ike."

Al Gore and John Kerry were obviously far more intelligent than George W. Bush, yet they were derided as "ivory-tower elites."

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:00 PM

6. Rec.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:14 PM

7. Amen

I remember telling a guy in my office, a guy who was no brain surgeon. that Dubya was not too bright and his reply was "good, I don't trust smart people".

I there weren't an ample supply of pliable anti and/or not smart folks Faux News would not exist.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:53 PM

8. Heinlein (and many other Golden Age SciFic authors) said much the same thing. Repeatedly. n/t

 

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:54 PM

9. My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.

... because uninformedly I may vote.

These people are right. They are not wrong.

And, it would behoove our smart people to aid them in being informed as much as possible for we expect them to fight our wars and police our streets that gives us all the right to vote.

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Response to Festivito (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:55 PM

13. How about: "My ignorance has the same vote as as your knowledge"

that's a fact, for better or worse.

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Response to demwing (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:04 PM

15. How about: "My ignorance has the same vote as as your knowledge"

In which the results are most definitely NOT as good as the knowledgeable.

So... we're right back to the untruth of:

"My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"

But the truly sad thing is.... this is about ignorance not stupidity. Learning can cure ignorance. There's no need for it.

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Response to demwing (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:55 PM

22. My ignorance has the same weight and same quantity of voting power as your knowledgeable vote.

I'm trying to channel the non-or-anti-intellectual.

We need to reach these people, not preach to them.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:54 PM

10. Asimov and Carl Sagan - there will probably never be

such thinkers again. Not only were they the best in Science, but they could always write about science in a way that the average person could understand it. (Asimov was also my very favorite science-fiction writer)

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:56 PM

11. Thanks for this quote.

Kick.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:56 PM

12. "Yeah, well he's an elitist liberal author!"

 

That's right folks, that's what we have for intellect in the tea party.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:57 PM

14. K&R

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:14 PM

16. The full quote

from which one of his great novels got it's title.

"Against Stupidity, The Gods Themselves Contend In Vain."

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Response to edhopper (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:37 PM

19. Those were such wonderful years in science fiction.

 

Many a night I was driven to thought and contemplation by so many wonderful authors addressing current societal ills in such fantastical ways.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:21 PM

18. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Whovian.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:41 PM

20. love it

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:01 AM

23. love Asimov,

Now I want to read one of his books.

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