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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:40 AM

Karma smacks Papa John on the ass....

YouGov Score on Election Day = 32. YouGov Score Today = 4

Anti-Obamacare rhetoric from Papa Johnís CEO and a major Applebeeís franchise owner appear to have driven down both chainsí consumer perception with casual dining eaters in the US, and are still impacted two weeks after those remarks were made.

Papa Johnís CEO John Schnatterís post-Election Day comments about passing on health care reform costs by reducing worker hours and raising prices coincides with a swift negative reaction among casual food diners seemingly accelerated by the November 13th class action lawsuit accusing Papa John's of sending unsolicited text messages to customers.

Despite Schnatterís Huffington Post op-ed on November 20th claiming his words were twisted, Papa Johnís perception levels continued to experience one of its sharpest drops of the year, sending it well below rival Pizza Hut.


Denny and Applebee's also experienced precipitous drops in public perception -- although Denny's has somewhat rebounded after the CEO issued a strong rebuttal of his franchisee's earlier statements.

http://www.brandindex.com/article/anti-obamacare-rhetoric-buzz

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Reply Karma smacks Papa John on the ass.... (Original post)
Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 OP
JaneyVee Dec 2012 #1
Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #4
DonRedwood Dec 2012 #9
Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #13
CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #16
Scuba Dec 2012 #2
LonePirate Dec 2012 #8
SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #14
LisaLynne Dec 2012 #3
Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #5
DonRedwood Dec 2012 #10
Irishonly Dec 2012 #19
fredamae Dec 2012 #6
dawg Dec 2012 #7
unblock Dec 2012 #11
melody Dec 2012 #17
kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #24
Whovian Dec 2012 #12
Lex Dec 2012 #15
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #18
unblock Dec 2012 #20
LTR Dec 2012 #21
Cha Dec 2012 #22
Blue Owl Dec 2012 #23

Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:43 AM

1. Ironically, getting rid of these establishments would dramatically lower healthcare costs.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:46 AM

4. I know...

There are few chain establishment where one can eat that AREN'T bad for your health. The Missus & I were in a Buffalo Wild Wings a few months ago -- killing time because of some child-related activity -- and the menu there has the calorie count for every item. So you'd think: Chicken wings, how bad can they be?

We ordered the salad. Which still wasn't great, but it was miles ahead of everything else.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:16 AM

9. one chain has, on their healthier eating menu a salad that has over 3000 calories....

can't remember which one so I won't smear them all but.... I'm on a strict heart-related diet and I don't even go into chain restaurants anymore.

We tried a steak house on my birthday (I've had red meat twice in the past year) but they didn't have a light dressing and you'd have though I ordered grilled baby puppy when I asked if they had fat free sour cream.

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Response to DonRedwood (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:12 AM

13. I've had the grilled baby puppy, and it's delicious!(nt)

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:44 AM

16. right you are!

All of this crap food is junk food and it is NOT GOOD FOR YOU!

To hell w/Papa John's Pizza and Applebee's. I've never been to Applebee's I am proud to say. As for Papa John's Pizza, it is a killer I know that much, overloaded w/fatty cheese and sheer crap.

I do my own cooking right here at home where the heart is.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:44 AM

2. It was reported that Schnatter lost $140M in stock value over his little tantrum.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:10 AM

8. Oh the irony! Serves him right for being an idiot tea bagged.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:29 AM

14. Which is hilarious considering that his complaint was

Obamacare was going to cost Papa Johns 8 million a year...

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:45 AM

3. They were buying the RW propaganda and didn't realize that ...

the public actually supports Obamacare. Helping people destroy the reps of their companies: Just another service provided by Faux News.

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Response to LisaLynne (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:48 AM

5. My unscientific survey...

seemed to indicate that more businesses were displaying signs supporting the GOP than in previous years. I think these business owners were deluded into thinking that the nation was solidly behind Romney, and there was no harm in "riding the wave" on this matter.

Your business should ALWAYS be strictly a-political.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:17 AM

10. I thought so too...either Faux was really pushing each and every one or they really thought they had

bought up the election and could say whatever they wanted. My guess is they figured Romney's big tax cuts to the rich would have made up for any business lost from playing politics.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:25 PM

19. I agree with you

I will not go into businesses displaying political signs. I don't want to know or care what a business owner's political views are. I also would complain to management if a worker in a store started talking politics.

When Bush and Gore ran one of our favorite mom and pop restaurants had a Bush sign. We refused to eat there and then when all hell broke loose after the election they put up some sort of "We are all Americans-they election is over" We still haven't returned. Another store had campaign signs for local candidates. Our local elections are supposed to be nonpartisan but these days, nothing is.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:49 AM

6. It's a matter of Health on Many Levels n/t

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:49 AM

7. That's fascinating.

Who would have ever thought that pissing off 53% of your customer base wouldn't be good for business?

I'll have to admit it. It burns me up to know that "geniuses" like these guys are what society considers successful.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:20 AM

11. i wonder if it cost him more or less than the $0.14 per pizza he claimed obamacare would cost him?

i know, i know, it's a moving target with them selling fewer and fewer pizzas....

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Response to unblock (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:11 PM

17. Their desire isn't to save money, it's to be cruel to the underlings of the world

It's all about a boot in the face to the serfs.

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Response to melody (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:48 PM

24. ++1,000 NT

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:22 AM

12. Any businessman worth his or her salt should know not to

 

publicly espouse his religious or political feelings for risk of losing a large segment of the population as potential customers. However, in the last election the RW circle jerk had them believing that the whole world thought just like them. Lots of Fundies, Teabaggers and Republicans seem to feel that way and are confused as hell when their myopic world view turns out to be false.

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Response to Whovian (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:32 AM

15. +1

It is a super stupid business move to publicly endorse any particular political or religious allegiance.

I have a small business and I have very strong political opinions, but they do not show up at work for clients to see. No reason to, really.



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Response to Whovian (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:19 PM

18. Exactly.

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Response to Whovian (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:29 PM

20. exactly. they hire the republican party to be the face of soulless greed so they don't have to.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:38 PM

21. The DU mobile site agrees

At the bottom of this thread, on my page, is an ad for Pizza Hut!

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:30 PM

22. That's what they all say when something doesn't go over as

well as they thought. "It was taken out of context.. it was twisted"

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:44 PM

23. Poor Plop-In John's

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