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Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:58 PM

 

One thing that bothered many (not all) Christians about the GOP

A few Christians (some mainline, some Catholic, some Evangie) told me they didn't vote for Romney, or voted Obama because they were mad at how Obama, a Christian, was painted as not.

"Only God knows - it is not up for us to decide!"

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Reply One thing that bothered many (not all) Christians about the GOP (Original post)
Taverner Dec 2012 OP
thelordofhell Dec 2012 #1
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #2
Taverner Dec 2012 #3
Iggy Dec 2012 #4
madrchsod Dec 2012 #7
Iggy Dec 2012 #8
patrice Dec 2012 #5
madrchsod Dec 2012 #9
Taverner Dec 2012 #10
madrchsod Dec 2012 #6

Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:06 PM

1. They also wouldn't vote for a Mormon

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:12 PM

2. I'm curious...what state?

I heard there was also a pledge circulating among evangelicals to write in Jesus...that likely took away many votes from Romney.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:15 PM

3. California

 

I heard about that

But I also heard of Evangelical churches - NOT ALL OF THEM - but some where they put the smack down on any and all politics at church. That I can respect.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:17 PM

4. I'm Still "Flabbergasted" So Many Evangelicals

 

were willing to vote for Rmoney the Mormon... because again, there can't be two Jesuses; Mormon founder Joseph Smith definitely set himself up as a Jesus-like figure.

I need to look at the southern evangelical states to determine if GOP turnout for Rmoney was as strong as it was in 2008 for Stumpy McCain.

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Response to Iggy (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:35 PM

7. so am i...

the baptists in the 1800`s had running gun battles with the mormons across the county. i seriously doubt that anything has really changed accept for the gun fire.
i guess the thought of a black man returning to the whitehouse over ruled their hatred for the mormon religion.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:40 PM

8. I Dunno

 

i guess the thought of a black man returning to the whitehouse over ruled their hatred for the mormon religion.


That's my thought as well-- but I'm not so sure.. that's why I need to look at these states to see how many votes Rmoney got compared to McCain. I've a feeling some evangelicals quietly sat this one out-- not that it mattered much in typical red states where they live.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:19 PM

5. Am I wrong? Isn't what calls itself "Christianity" pretty much a failure? I'm not saying that they

have the sole responsibility for our insanity, dysfunctional families, materialism in general, a culture of violence, un-necessary wars supported by political capital, troubled teens etc. etc. etc., but they certainly CLAIM that it is their purpose to improve humanity and it would appear that they just are not very goddamn good at it.

The anecdote you relate supports this contention.

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Response to patrice (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:47 PM

9. not really...

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Response to patrice (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:31 PM

10. Failure in what terms?

 

I am an atheist btw...

But I was a Christian for many years. First a Methodist, then evangelical, then deist, then agnostic, then angry atheist and now, just atheist.

Improve humanity? It's how you measure it.

What are you measuring?

I worked with some Calvinist missionaries in Thailand who would buy children out of prostitution, and NOT make them convert.

I knew Baptist missionaries in Thailand who didn't bother with that side of the situation, because "they don't make enough to support our congregation."

If one tries to do good, and actually does it, more power to them.

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Let me say that I think a major point in a human's development is when they can empathize fully with others. Some humans never develop this trait.

If religion causes it - then more power to them.

If something else triggers empathy, then more power to that.

It is when we fail to achieve empathy that we have a problem.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:28 PM

6. your own personal jesus....

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