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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:35 PM

1. Yes, that bugs me also, and I think it is deliberate. n/t

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:35 PM

2. Well ...

the Mister part is an improvement over the just plain "Obama" that the media used for the past 4 years.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:35 PM

3. I hate it too. The man won a majority of the vote twice, so he should be called by his proper title.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:36 PM

4. Seriously.

I notice that all the time. It's infuriating.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:38 PM

5. It's standard practice to use his title on first reference

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:38 PM

6. NYT always says "Mr." or "Mrs." or "Ms."

That is their format. They use it for presidents, prime ministers, senators, etc.

But if media outlets only do that for this president, then it bugs me, because it's a sign of disrespect. But some papers might just follow the New York Times format.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:38 PM

7. It is the media's standard to use "President Obama" the first time in a news article or story and

then use "Mr. President" each of the following times. It has always been that way.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:43 PM

8. Calm down. They called Clinton "Bill" even in serious news headlines. They called W "W"

They called Eisenhower Ike. The called Johnson LBJ. They called Kennedy JFK. They called Nixon Mr. Nixon. They called Truman Harry.

Et Cetera.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:44 PM

9. Mr. Bush not President Bush

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053288/posts

Reported this morning on the Today Show, in the segment about the illegals working in this country, the regulars (Matt, Katie, Ann & Al) go to the reporter in the field and our president is referred to as "Mr. Bush" not "President Bush". I've seen this on the increase recently as the election is heating up. Has anyone else noticed? I think their disrespect is alarming and biased since they will refer to a competitor as "Presidential hopeful Howard Dean. And certainly any reference to Bill Clinton is always President Clinton. Is this going on in other networks too?

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:44 PM

10. I cringe every time I hear "Mr." Obama.

And do you know who also calls him Mr. Obama? Rachel Maddow. I love Rachel on pretty much every other account. But she, of all people, should know better, imo.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:46 PM

11. I often hear just Obama

and I don't remember anyone just saying Bush. It's so strange.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:59 PM

12. The general way of doing it is like this....

First mention of the name "President Obama", subsequent mentions of the name "Mr Obama". Its been like that for a long time. I believe its a journalistic standard, it was the same way for Dubya.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 05:18 PM

13. Yes, they did

It is a perfectly acceptable way to address/refer to the president, especially in print where repetition of words and phrases are considered bad style.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 05:26 PM

14. And their heads are higher than his!

Off with their heads!

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 05:31 PM

15. It just galls some members of the media that they can't refer to President Obama as "boy"....

...racist motherfuckers.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 06:02 PM

16. Then you need to read a style book or study up on protocol

When he's on vacation or participating in non-President activities where he is not representing the people or the office, he is Mr. Obama.

Other times:
http://www.formsofaddress.info/FOA_president_US.html

See? All nice and smoothed out now

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