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Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:39 AM

 

I come in here and there's like a billion threads on rape.

Not to add yet another, but what am I missing? Seriously, is it rape awareness week or something?

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Reply I come in here and there's like a billion threads on rape. (Original post)
Cruzan Dec 2012 OP
Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #1
LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #2
Skidmore Dec 2012 #5
Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #6
Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #16
OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #3
CTyankee Dec 2012 #4
Brickbat Dec 2012 #7
Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #8
CTyankee Dec 2012 #10
Heidi Dec 2012 #12
CTyankee Dec 2012 #13
Heidi Dec 2012 #14
Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #17
Heidi Dec 2012 #19
Chorophyll Dec 2012 #9
CTyankee Dec 2012 #11
Chorophyll Dec 2012 #15
Odin2005 Dec 2012 #18
hfojvt Dec 2012 #24
laundry_queen Dec 2012 #30
Javaman Dec 2012 #20
Cruzan Dec 2012 #21
Javaman Dec 2012 #25
Cruzan Dec 2012 #27
Javaman Dec 2012 #28
ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #22
hrmjustin Dec 2012 #23
applegrove Dec 2012 #26
liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #29

Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:46 AM

1. As you noted, this is thread is no. 1 billion +1

My take:

A girl posted a pic in which she questioned the fact that she had to attend rape prevention orientations while there were no "don't rape" orientations for boys. Which is a valid point, as many have tried to explain, certain subsets of men (fraternities and porn culture as obvious examples) have very murky notions about rape.

This, some men couldn't take. The notion that some men had to be educated as to what constitutes rape (something that studies confirm needs to be done) was too much for some men on DU. They just couldn't take it. They felt accused of something, whatever it was. They started to feel the need to point out that "most women fantasize about rape anyway and therefore probably want it", or that "rape is almost extinct because of internet porn" or that "giving custodial rights to male parents" will take care of the problem. Combine that with the large segment of men that COULD NOT FATHOM THAT OP'S ABOUT RAPE WEREN'T ABOUT THEM INDIVIDUALLY and you get what we got here the last days.

No wonder the shitstorm, then, IMHO.

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:56 AM

2. +1

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:11 AM

5. Thanks for the history on this.

I wasn't sure what had started this, although I did try to read through some of the threads and found some of them very offensive. I apparently did not read the thread that started it.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:20 AM

6. I think this was the original OP...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021898292

Although I think there were at least 2 or 3 versions of this going round in different groups/forums. The redundancy might have added in garnering up the shit storm.

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:49 AM

16. +1

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Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:00 AM

3. Why did you feel the burning urge to add yet another thread on the topic?....

....Oh, the irony.

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Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:07 AM

4. OK, well, for women it's always rape awareness week.

Because men don't fear rape as acutely as women do in general they have assigned some meanings to women's threads here about rape that are not warranted. That is, ascribing our concerns to "man-hating," to list just one. Or one I just ran across late last night, "true rape" as presumably opposed to "fake rape." The longer this is discussed, the more amazing insights into some male thinking have been revealed, quite surprising to more than a few women and to males here who are strong advocates for women.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:22 AM

7. "For women, it's always rape awareness week."

I just wanted to repeat that because YES.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:26 AM

8. At least Mr. "true rape" showed his true colors by posting that in those words.


That thread... Still makes me angry.. But I've been banned from it.. For better or worse... Good to know though that I pushed his buttons just as much as he did mine.

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:32 AM

10. I don't understand how you can be banned from a thread...could you PM me and let me know...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:39 AM

12. Hi, CTyankee. If a jury votes to hide your post in a thread,

you can no longer post in that thread.

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Response to Heidi (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:43 AM

13. OK. Thanks for letting me know.

I've never had a post hidden.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:46 AM

14. Me, neither.

When I feel I'm getting that close to violating the TOS, I try to back away from the keyboard.

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Response to Heidi (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:59 AM

17. It was my first, too. And I don't think it was that over the top. But I understand.


Check it out if you're curious..It's in the rape fantasy thread. Don't want Heidi thinking that I'm a bad person .. Small country and all...

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:16 AM

19. I saw it.

I don't make value judgments about people's worth based on their hidden posts. Had I replied to that OP, my post probably would have been hidden, too.

P.S. I'm not Swiss. I just live here.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:29 AM

9. + a million.

Interesting to me that everyone on this board was horrified when a Republican congressman attempted to define "legitimate rape."

But apparently it's okay for half of DU to come out and do the same.

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:36 AM

11. If nothing else, this whole issue has revealed quite a lot about some of our most venerable

posters on DU.

Saying things like "true rape" is just mind-blowing. It was in the same vein as what was rejected by the voters of a very red state just last month! It just floored me to read that here.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:46 AM

15. I've been a member of DU since 2005.

My post count is low-ish mostly because there were many, many days that I could not handle the casual, unexamined sexism on a progressive board.

I guess I'm older and tougher now. :/

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:01 AM

18. BINGO!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 02:00 PM

24. so there really is no such thing as man-hating?

"women's biggest fear is that men will kill them?" is somehow not about me?

I mean, really? Can you make other generalizations like that without getting it jumped on? Could a person say "white people's biggest fear is that black men will kill them." without that being called extremely racist?

Just like the last one is a slur against all black men, the first one is a slur against all men.

But that's okay because men are expected to "be a man" and shrug off the slings and arrows against men.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:44 AM

30. No, it's not all about you.

And that you haven't clued in yet is a big red flag.

BTW your analogy is ridiculous - the balance of power is not the same.

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Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 11:12 AM

20. Hit and run thread.

gotta love them.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 01:28 PM

21. Never left.

 

Read every reply.

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Response to Cruzan (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:37 PM

25. Just watching from the sidelines and waiting to strike, huh?

LOL

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Response to Javaman (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:39 AM

27. Actually, not.

 

My original post was simply a sincere question seeking information (note the word 'seriously'). As the replies come in I've been content to just inform myself by reading them.

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Response to Cruzan (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:25 AM

28. Well that's good.

I hope you learned a few things.

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Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 01:35 PM

22. I stayed away most of the last few days (well, mostly, lol) because

of the rape threads.

I try to be sensitive to the feelings of others and I didn't want any comments I might have made in these rape threads to be a part of the overall collection which might actually bring emotional trauma to any victims of rape who may be members here or search engine visitors and seeing their worst nightmares exposed on every other subject line.

But, then, I just did, didn't I?

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Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 01:38 PM

23. Last week There was a man here who said that he engaged in date rape as a younger man.

That and the responses by some people are the reason why there are many threads on rape.

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Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:01 PM

26. I know. I just did not want to go there

so I skipped them all. Don't even know the context of
why so many.

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Response to Cruzan (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:28 AM

29. I just put them all in the trash

It's not like there is any constructive conversation anyway. Just like all the threads at DU these days it just ends up with both sides verbally abusing each other. So sorry but this one is going in the trash as well.

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