Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:19 PM
spanone (72,109 posts)
why the f *ck is this man on Meet the Press? Grover Norquist: Beware of a second tea party wave
a paid political lobbyist....nothing more...and who in the fuck is he to 'warn' of anything?????
Grover Norquist: Beware of a second tea party wave Anti-tax lobbyist Grover Norquist said Sunday that if President Obama pushes the nation over the “fiscal cliff,” there will be a tea party backlash stronger than the movement that influenced the 2010 midterm elections. “Tea Party two is going to dwarf tea party one if Obama pushes us off the cliff,” warned Norquist on NBC’s “Meet The Press.” Norquist, the founder of Americans for Tax Reform, has become a central figure in negotiations between Republicans and Democrats, with some congressional Republicans signaling a willingness to violate his no-new-taxes pledge to avert the “fiscal cliff.” Norquist said he believes televising the negotiations would prevent tax increases from being part of any deal. “If people watch this on C-SPAN, then you won’t have higher taxes,” he said. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/12/02/grover-norquist-beware-of-a-second-tea-party-wave/ this from nbc's 'meet the press' homepage: Tax reform activist Grover Norquist leads a panel in discussion of what tax changes to expect out of a final fiscal cliff deal. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| spanone | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| bluestateguy | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| salin | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| Barack_America | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| liberalmuse | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| brewens | Dec 2012 | #32 | |
| Andy823 | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| Please proceed | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
| Buns_of_Fire | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| Deep13 | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| Lint Head | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| malaise | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| Lasher | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| Warren DeMontague | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| Marr | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| Jack Rabbit | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
| Zoeisright | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
| DBoon | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
| one_voice | Dec 2012 | #17 | |
| Brother Buzz | Dec 2012 | #18 | |
| OneGrassRoot | Dec 2012 | #19 | |
| TheCowsCameHome | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| dominusvictor | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| Jamaal510 | Dec 2012 | #22 | |
| Arkana | Dec 2012 | #23 | |
| Angry Dragon | Dec 2012 | #24 | |
| JaneyVee | Dec 2012 | #25 | |
| graham4anything | Dec 2012 | #26 | |
| demwing | Dec 2012 | #27 | |
| geckosfeet | Dec 2012 | #28 | |
| TheKentuckian | Dec 2012 | #29 | |
| DinahMoeHum | Dec 2012 | #30 | |
| MiniMe | Dec 2012 | #33 | |
| Thinkingabout | Dec 2012 | #31 | |
| Shankapotomus | Dec 2012 | #34 | |
| Jack Rabbit | Dec 2012 | #35 |
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:23 PM
bluestateguy (40,060 posts)
1. Oh no! Then nobody will vote for Obama in 2016!
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Oh wait...
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:25 PM
salin (45,822 posts)
2. Poor movement conservatives... losing votes due to their extremism
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and threatening to become even more extreme and loud. It's almost as if he/they are seeking to find a permanent home in the realm of irrelevancy somewhere in the near electoral future. Only question is how many more election cycles ... 2 years, 6 years, 8 years?
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:26 PM
Barack_America (24,436 posts)
3. Except a vast majority of Americans agree with increasing taxes on the rich.
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Those are going to be some pretty empty tea party rallies.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:36 PM
liberalmuse (15,420 posts)
4. 2nd T-Party wave? I think not.
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Some of the more evolved former members realized they were being used as a cheap (well, FREE) astroturf org for billionaires. The rest are dumber than a box of rocks and are a source of ridicule for the rest of us.
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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #4)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:11 PM
brewens (3,011 posts)
32. Don't be surprised to hear them trying to convince the half-wits that their taxes went up.
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They'll believe it too. I can hear the bloated, pill-head, pervert they all love right now. "Don't believe them when they say they are only raising taxes on the rich! Your taxes are going up too!" FOX "News" polls will show middle class people upset that their taxes were raised, all the while believing that St. Reagan never raised taxes.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:36 PM
Andy823 (4,698 posts)
5. Grover is an idiot
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I watched him this morning and he did a poor job of defending his stand if you ask me. I also heard, and I rewound it to make sure, him say that "TWO" years ago Clinton worked with the republicans to get real cuts to entitlement programs, and then repeated it was "TWO" years ago! Later he started in again with Clinton working with republicans and Gregory jumped in before Grover made another mistake and said that was in 1993.
I loved it when Cramer went after him and his ideas. He also told Grover that CEO's are with Obama on this, something Grover did not like. Grover's idea that there will be a tea party II that will dwarf tea party I is simply insane. The majority of voters are not happy with the tea party clowns, and a lot of them got voted out. Sure there are still some in the House, but I don't think they will have as much clout in the next congress, and they are fighting amongst themselves and the main stream republicans. Grover is becoming a joke, and the more he comes on TV and says things like "some republicans were seduced to say they might vote for tax hikes" the more he looks like the idiot he really is. Just my opinion. |
Response to Andy823 (Reply #5)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:20 PM
Please proceed (51 posts)
16. Samantha Bee already exposed him as an idiot
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In her piece about him on the Daily Show. Grover proudly brags about the fact the idea of the no tax pledge came to him in middle school. Then she had a group of elementary schoolers basically shit on the idea of being so inflexible on a subject without knowing the facts.
Sorry Grover, you were shit on by first graders, whose ability to think is greater than many in the GOP. |
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:39 PM
Buns_of_Fire (8,238 posts)
6. Ooooooo... a scary little fuzzy person he is!
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Grover the Fuzzy is seeing his influence start to slip. When his influence slips, I would imagine contributions to Americans for Tax Reform start to slip, too. And when contributions to Americans for Tax Reform slip, so does money to Nutbaggers and Greedy S.O.B.s to Support Grover Norquist (a wholly-owned subsidiary of ATR).
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:41 PM
Deep13 (37,239 posts)
7. Grover: beware of a reality tsunami. nt
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:44 PM
Lint Head (10,440 posts)
8. Grover, liberals and progressives are usually very understanding and considerate but
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one day you're eventually going to piss off the wrong person.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:50 PM
malaise (106,022 posts)
9. Grover should beware of unemployment
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he is fuggin' history and hopefully David Gregory will join him and Rove for a dance into oblivion.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:56 PM
Lasher (20,467 posts)
10. Are Congressional Democrats dumb enough let teabaggers do the same thing again?
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Essentially the teabaggers were a bunch of astroturf brownshirts who took over Democrats' town hall meetings. It would be easy to enact safeguards to prevent a widespread recurrence. Surely Congressional Democrats are not stupid enough to let the same thing happen again. Are they?
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:57 PM
Warren DeMontague (46,312 posts)
11. Let me guess: He wants to compromise! Tax rates stay the same, Cut SS & Medicare.
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Compromise!
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:02 PM
Marr (13,669 posts)
12. Because Grover Norquist is the 1%'s political whip.
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And the corporate media is owned by the 1%.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jack Rabbit (40,700 posts)
13. What has Gover been smoking? A tribute to the passing of his relevancy
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Polls show a majority of Americans favor taxing the rich, who have been undertaxed for thirty years and whose greed, incompetence and outright criminal behavior caused the present mess.
Polls also show that most Americans are ready to blame Republicans, not the President, if we go over the fiscal cliff. I hate to paraphrase Richard Mourdock, the extremist Tea Party candidate who lost the GOP's Senate seat in Indiana, but the corollary to Obama's "I'm through negotiating with myself" is that compromise consists of getting the other side to take a reality-based position. I'm not demanding it be our position, as Mourdock demanded the Democrats adopt the Tea Party's platform, just one based in the real world. Let us think of his appearance on Meet the Press today to be Grover Norquist's swan song as a relevant newsmaker. For this occasion, let us watch and listen to a scene from Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake, which, appropriate to Mr. Norquist and the blood suckers whose interests he championed so well for so many years, was used as theme to the 1931 motion picture Dracula and, appropriate to the right wing claptrap known under the umbrella name supply side economics, is performed here by a ballet troupe from the nation that most benefited from America's adoption of it. |
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:03 PM
Zoeisright (7,832 posts)
14. Go fuck yourself, Grover.
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You insignificant, impotent little turd.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:19 PM
DBoon (12,250 posts)
15. Translation:
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"My incredibly wealthy though secretive backers plan to buy LOTS of astro-turf"
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:21 PM
one_voice (11,027 posts)
17. They better beware of a...
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liberal wave. I've about had it with their fuckin' threats and demands.
How about I'm taking MY country back. How do you like that? |
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:35 PM
Brother Buzz (8,370 posts)
18. I believe the Tea Party left the cake out in the rain
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:38 PM
OneGrassRoot (18,765 posts)
19. What's the real scoop on him? How did he gain a following in the first place?
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Seems he has something on someone. |
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:53 PM
TheCowsCameHome (27,697 posts)
20. Tea Party II - Yeah, right. Bend over Grover, it's over.
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:57 PM
dominusvictor (10 posts)
21. My Professional Opinion
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I'm a clinical counselor and what is extremely interesting is his Freudian Slip mentioning Bill Clinton as being POTUS two years ago. I'm just sayin
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:08 PM
Jamaal510 (3,159 posts)
22. We should heed Grover's warning. They will stop at nothing
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to deny Obama a 3rd term.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:18 PM
Arkana (22,212 posts)
23. Are you threatening us, Mr. Norquist?
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:26 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
24. Grover Norquist is the leader of a terrroist organization that has
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many elected republican politicains as members
ALL members of this organization should be investigated as terrorists |
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:46 PM
JaneyVee (3,818 posts)
25. Tea Party can't survive without all the astroturf $$$ from the Koch Bros & Rove.
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:48 PM
graham4anything (9,179 posts)
26. If they have Grover on, it must mean no other repub will come on to defend it
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and hopefully we dems won't be stupid as in 2010
and a fight for the soul of the party tea party vs. Jeb will immensly help Hillary become Hillary45 in 2016 |
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:50 PM
demwing (10,958 posts)
27. Too Late Bubba--2012 ain't 2010! Meet OFA.
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The ground game still stands.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:52 PM
geckosfeet (8,805 posts)
28. Burn in hell norquist
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:54 PM
TheKentuckian (17,391 posts)
29. If it is Sunday then Democrats shouldn't be giving Meet the Press ratings.
Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:05 PM
DinahMoeHum (12,317 posts)
30. My fondest wish is for Norquist to disappear. . .
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. . .and be found weeks later at the bottom of the Potomac River. Wrapped in heavy link chain.
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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #30)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:36 PM
MiniMe (13,667 posts)
33. Preferrably down a bathtub drain
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Where he wants the federal gov't to go.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:06 PM
Thinkingabout (1,774 posts)
31. Grover you might be able to control the useless John Culberson R-TX but not all of his district.
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You have some sheep running with you but now the truth is out, you are just another Muslim terrorist and you know we do like you. Run while you can, you are running into a corner. Hell No we are not scared of you anymore.
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Response to spanone (Original post)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:03 PM
Shankapotomus (2,316 posts)
34. Love how they so quickly forgot
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how badly they predicted the election and then go right back into prognosticating.
Like we wouldn't notice how poor they are at it. "Why yes, why shouldn't we heed your warnings? You're so darn good at them." |
Response to Shankapotomus (Reply #34)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:19 PM
Jack Rabbit (40,700 posts)
35. They've all been hanging with Bill Kristol too long.
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!!
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