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Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:08 PM

Obama Administration unleashes EPA to federalize Florida's water

Obama Administration unleashes EPA to federalize Florida's water

by beach babe in fl

Tampa Bay Times

In a nationwide precedent setting decision the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) tells judge it will impose stricter water pollution standards on Florida. That means that the new federal rules will cover 85 percent — about 100,000 miles of waterways. Basically federalizing Florida's water system.

This comes Fourteen years after the federal government acknowledged that Florida had a serious water pollution problem. In the mean time our state's legendary Springs, waterways and even drinking water were held hostage by agriculture, business and political interests.

The Sierra Club, Florida Wildlife Federation and other environmental groups had sued the EPA four years ago over the most persistent water pollution problem in Florida — one that the federal agency had first told the state to do something about in 1998.

When the EPA settled the suit, it agreed to impose tough new pollution rules, prompting a political backlash from Gov. Rick Scott, big business, agricultural interests, paper mills and utilities, among other interests.

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Scott, along with U.S. representatives and senators and state legislators, contended that the pollution limits would ruin the state's economy. One business leader asked, "How clean does our water have to be?"

The EPA decision marks the end of a major battle between Republican controlled Florida Environmental Protection officials trying to maintain the status quo of lax or no water management and environmental groups persistent in defending our precious water. The State DEP officials are incensed about almost total federal control of our waterways. But they've had three decades of failed and negligent oversight and it's good to see the EPA being unleased to do it's work.

This appears to be another positive result of our successful election. Keep them coming!

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/02/1166344/-Obama-Administration-unleashes-EPA-to-federalize-Florida-s-water




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Reply Obama Administration unleashes EPA to federalize Florida's water (Original post)
ProSense Dec 2012 OP
BlueToTheBone Dec 2012 #1
dballance Dec 2012 #2
progressoid Dec 2012 #6
xxqqqzme Dec 2012 #12
dballance Dec 2012 #19
progressoid Dec 2012 #22
zbdent Dec 2012 #3
SemperEadem Dec 2012 #7
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #4
freshwest Dec 2012 #8
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #11
Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #5
1monster Dec 2012 #9
bluestate10 Dec 2012 #20
1monster Dec 2012 #24
Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #10
ProSense Dec 2012 #13
Enrique Dec 2012 #14
fwm Dec 2012 #15
ProSense Dec 2012 #18
AlbertCat Dec 2012 #16
Cha Dec 2012 #21
Overseas Dec 2012 #17
Botany Dec 2012 #23

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:09 PM

1. K&R

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:17 PM

2. Even animals are smart enough not to shit where they eat

Why are we humans so hell-bent on ruining all of our natural resources? Most of which actually provide us with the food, water and breathable atmosphere to survive.

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Response to dballance (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:51 PM

6. Except for pigs

And cows

and fish



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Response to progressoid (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:07 PM

12. That is not true of

pigs. We raised a pig every year when we had our farm. They had a small, raised 'house' w/ hay and access to a large outdoor fenced area. Each pig would choose the corner as far away as possible for his elimination. Our pigs were sociable, friendly and clean. Pigs get a bad rap because they are kept in spaces too small.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:52 PM

19. Fish? Seriously? You obviously missed the point

Fish? Really? You want to go there just to criticize my post? Why not try to understand the bigger meaning of my post rather than making petty statements about specific animals' habits?

It apparently eluded you so let me explain. The idea behind my post was not to debate every animal's habits but to make a broader statement that we humans are doing irreparable harm to our environment.

I guess simile and metaphor are beyond your reach.

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Response to dballance (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:17 PM

22. Yeah

I was just goofing. Probably should have included one of these: or or or maybe

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:44 PM

3. One asks, "How clean does our water have to be?"

Well, I'll let him know, AFTER he drinks it, that I crapped in the pitcher of water and fished the turd out before presenting it to him ...

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Response to zbdent (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:03 PM

7. no, it should be presented to his children to drink

maybe then, he'll open up a can of "act right".

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:45 PM

4. Hallelujah!

Thanks for the link.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:03 PM

8. Yes, they had surrendered their environment for profit, killing themselves. This is good.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:37 PM

11. It's great if they can make it stick...

I live in FL.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:48 PM

5. Ten years from now we may learn that the oil spill was making it impossible

for the federal government to halt commercial fishing, until they federalized the waters.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:11 PM

9. I stopped drinking Florida's tap water more than 20 years ago when my son was born...

Since then, we use steam distilled water for drinking and cooking.

Unfortunately, we still use tap water for showering and everything else.

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Response to 1monster (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:53 PM

20. I am lucky, my state's drinking water is as pure as isolated spring water. It is the best in the

country and the world.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:52 PM

24. When I was a kid, we had our own reservoir filled from a pristine mountain

spring.

Those were the days... But the winters were very cold there. Florida is warm in the winter.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:25 PM

10. Curious language in this article. Is the author, "beach babe in fl"...

... a Tea Party freakazoid?

Enforcing existing regulations -- that were previously ignored -- in compliance with the result of a lawsuit is real, real far away from "federalization" or even "basicly federalizing".

It's hard to disapprove of the long overdue enforcement, but I have no problem shooting this messenger.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:15 PM

13. Here's more information:

EPA Approves Florida’s Rules to Protect Waterways from Nutrient Pollution

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The Clean Water Act (CWA) envisions states being primarily responsible for protecting water quality, and EPA fully supports Florida’s efforts to implement its own water quality standards. However, in accordance with a 2009 consent decree with the Florida Wildlife Federation—and because the state’s rules do not cover certain waters—EPA is also proposing two federal nutrient rules. One rule proposes numeric limits on the amount of nutrient pollution allowed in Florida’s estuaries and coastal waters, as well as streams in South Florida, which were not addressed in Florida’s rules. The other clarifies some provisions in the 2010 rule EPA promulgated establishing numeric limits on the amount of nutrient pollution allowed in Florida’s inland waters. These provisions were remanded to EPA for further action by the District Court.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/0/CF4D7B0CE1B9DF9D85257AC700137433


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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:25 PM

14. kos diaries tend to hype Obama actions

and like you said, the exaggerations sometimes mirror RW exaggerations.

At least in this case the actual action is actually significant. "Federalizing the water", i'm not so sure about...

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:32 PM

15. It's about time!

I live in Tallahassee. You only have to go down to Perry to experience the horrible smell from the paper mill. The Fenholloway River has been totally destroyed by the Buckeye Plant. They had so much political pull that no one could ever do anything about it.

I moved back to Florida when it appeared that they were moving in a more environmental direction only to have the Republicans take over after Bob Graham was governor and start dismantling all the progress that had been made.

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Response to fwm (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:51 PM

18. Thanks for the info.

Sounds horrible.

Welcome to DU.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:34 PM

16. One business leader asked, "How clean does our water have to be?"

This is "The Onion".... right?

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:56 PM

21. As Clean As We Want It To Be.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:42 PM

17. K&R.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:56 PM

23. this is really big!

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