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Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:55 PM

Why is military retirement and health care not on the table?

We have seen several sources state that Obama would consider Medicare and Social Security on the table to get a "grand bargin." With so many cuts, the militaries retirement and Tricare be on the table also?

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Reply Why is military retirement and health care not on the table? (Original post)
BrentWil Dec 2012 OP
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #1
PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #2
GP6971 Dec 2012 #9
Incitatus Dec 2012 #3
white_wolf Dec 2012 #4
GP6971 Dec 2012 #10
elleng Dec 2012 #5
BrentWil Dec 2012 #6
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #7
elleng Dec 2012 #8
Socal31 Dec 2012 #11

Response to BrentWil (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:57 PM

1. Do YOU want to be the guy cutting the benefit programs

 

to people that trained and damn near gave their lives for the Nation's interests?

-or-

YOU go tell people with military training and weapons that you are reneging on the deal we made with them.

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Response to BrentWil (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:59 PM

2. Actually Tricare has repeatedly been on the table. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:36 AM

9. Very true. n/t

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Response to BrentWil (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:59 PM

3. Were any of those several sources Obama himself? nt

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Response to BrentWil (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:00 PM

4. Because the military is holy and the people in the military are better than the rest of us.

At least that's the impression many in this country seem to have. I've heard someone refer to it as "the cult of the soldier" and I think it's pretty accurate.

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Response to white_wolf (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:44 AM

10. I think that's how

it was was during dimsons reign. Not so much anymore........my son, who is currently serving, has noticed a big difference between then and now. Still held in high esteem, but nowhere near the levels before.

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Response to BrentWil (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:00 PM

5. We hear rumors,

negotiation cannot occur in public.

Are you suggesting that only military retirement should be on the table, or ALL Federal employees retirement? Why either?

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Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:04 PM

6. Federal employees retirement...

is basically a 401K (Thrift savings play). Very little defined benefit.

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Response to BrentWil (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:13 PM

7. 1% pension per year of service. Goes to 1.25 after 20 years.

Medical benefits expensive after retirement to force you to Medicare

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Response to BrentWil (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:50 PM

8. Not mine.

Defined benefit, % of my high 3 years of salary. (I began work prior to new plan, and there are probably millions of us.)

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Response to BrentWil (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:43 AM

11. Of all of the things to want to reign in on Defense spending....

you think pension and health care for our vets should take center stage?

I enjoy thought-provoking discussion, and am against "Sacred cows" in general, but I can think of quite a few things in the Pentagon's budget to go after before pensions.

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