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Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:02 PM

I'm in audience watching Michael Nesmith play live w/ the remaining Monkees...

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This is way f'ing cool.

Second to last show of tour.

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Reply I'm in audience watching Michael Nesmith play live w/ the remaining Monkees... (Original post)
Hissyspit Dec 2012 OP
veganlush Dec 2012 #1
Hissyspit Dec 2012 #9
Sugarcoated Dec 2012 #20
Kaleva Dec 2012 #2
LeftInTX Dec 2012 #3
Lochloosa Dec 2012 #7
niyad Dec 2012 #4
htuttle Dec 2012 #5
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #6
Hissyspit Dec 2012 #8
Paladin Dec 2012 #35
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #14
Kaleva Dec 2012 #23
Ken Burch Dec 2012 #31
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #44
deutsey Dec 2012 #32
napkinz Dec 2012 #53
pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #10
nolabear Dec 2012 #11
NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #12
mac56 Dec 2012 #13
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #45
Atman Dec 2012 #67
SoapBox Dec 2012 #15
catnhatnh Dec 2012 #16
oh reiki ur so fine Dec 2012 #17
Hissyspit Dec 2012 #19
Sugarcoated Dec 2012 #21
otohara Dec 2012 #18
TeamPooka Dec 2012 #29
SoapBox Dec 2012 #22
deutsey Dec 2012 #33
Snarkoleptic Dec 2012 #24
Skittles Dec 2012 #25
Snarkoleptic Dec 2012 #26
Skittles Dec 2012 #28
HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #34
Atman Dec 2012 #41
napkinz Dec 2012 #54
Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #60
WeekendWarrior Dec 2012 #65
DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #58
Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #61
Atman Dec 2012 #62
Kalidurga Dec 2012 #27
Freddie Dec 2012 #56
graham4anything Dec 2012 #30
napkinz Dec 2012 #63
Zorra Dec 2012 #36
ewagner Dec 2012 #55
closeupready Dec 2012 #37
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #38
Atman Dec 2012 #39
Atman Dec 2012 #40
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #46
Hissyspit Dec 2012 #50
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #51
napkinz Dec 2012 #52
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #57
William Seger Dec 2012 #42
dionysus Dec 2012 #43
Hissyspit Dec 2012 #49
Atman Dec 2012 #68
WinkyDink Dec 2012 #47
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #48
LeftInTX Dec 2012 #59
napkinz Dec 2012 #64
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:07 PM

1. very cool

Some pieces of my life's soundtrack there...

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Response to veganlush (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:25 PM

9. Playlist:

Last Train to Clarksville
Papa Gene's Blues
Auntie Griselda
She
Sweet Young Thing
I'm A Believer
(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone
You Told Me
Sunny Girlfriend
You Just May Be The One
Mary, Mary
The Girl I Knew Somewhere
For Pete's Sake
Early Morning Blues And Greens
Randy Scouse Git
Daily Nightly
Tapioca Tundra
Goin' Down
Head Medley:
Porpoise Song
Daddy's Song
Can You Dig It
As We Go Along
Circle Sky
Do I Have to Do This All Over Again
Daydream Believer
What Am I Doing Hanging Around?

Listen To The Band
Pleasant Valley Sunday

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:11 AM

20. So much to love there

Who's singing Davy Jones songs, I wonder?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:13 PM

2. Wow!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:22 PM

3. Cool!

I saw Davy, Mickey and Peter when I was 9 months pregnant.
My mom wouldn't let me go when I was a kid.

Nothing was going to stop me as an adult.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:19 PM

7. lol...sorry...that's just funny in a good way

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:42 PM

4. very nice!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:45 PM

5. Music aside, 'The Monkees' was the strangest, most avant-garde television show of it's time

Music videos copied things they had first done for decades afterwards. They still do.

I was a just little kid when it was on, and I still remember some of the weird visuals.

I've been dying to re-watch that one episode with the hypnotic television broadcast again for years -- I remember a spinning spiral on the screen, and I think Mike got hypnotized...



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Response to htuttle (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:51 PM

6. You think the show was strange? Check out the Monkee movie "Head". It's way out there... nt

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:19 PM

8. They did almost the whole soundtrack with scenes from the movie playing on a screen in the

background.

Great concert.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:37 AM

35. "Head", Co-Written And Co-Produced By.....


....an aspiring young actor named Jack Nicholson......

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Response to htuttle (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:50 PM

14. It's no coincidence that Mike Nesmith

produced and directed a lot of the first music videos we saw on MTV. The Monkees borrowed quite a bit from the first Beatles movies, though.

I know a guy who was an assistant director on the Monkees and other 60s TV shows. He says the Monkees was a nightmare because he was serious about his career (his father directed The Caine Mutiny) and everyone involved in the production of the Monkees was stoned out of their minds.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:33 AM

23. LOL!

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:05 AM

31. You knew Edward Dmytryk's kid? Way Cool!

Did he get to meet Bogart, Jose Ferrer, or any of the other members of the "Caine" cast?

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #31)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:45 PM

44. He used to come into a place where I bartended about ten years ago.

He didn't talk much about Hollywood. He was retired and living here with his wife in northern California. He still did some small time video production, TV ads, etc. His last full time gig was the Touched By An Angel TV show. Real nice guy. Very low key, and I didn't even know who he was for a long time. His career came up in a discussion about the Monkees TV show at the bar. I think he moved to Oregon about ten years ago.

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Response to htuttle (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:49 AM

32. Do you remember the episode with Frank Zappa?

He and Nesmith were friends. Very surreal segment with the two of them playing each other and destroying a car. One of my favorites.

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Response to deutsey (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:19 PM

53. Zappa was also in HEAD





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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:32 PM

10. We're with you in spirit!

P.S. - We hate you, too! Why couldn't it be US?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:34 PM

11. I haz a severe envy.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:43 PM

12. Nesmith? Cool! he was the only

"real" musician of the group.

But the TV show was very influential, even influencing Scooby-Doo which then influenced other shows!

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Response to NashvilleLefty (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:48 PM

13. So not true.

Peter Tork was every bit Nesmith's equal musically, and in many ways superior.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:49 PM

45. And Davy Jones was an accomlished singer

having played the lead in Oliver! in the British theatre.

Peter Tork was recommended to the producers by Stephen Stills after he was rejected for a part in the show.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #45)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:43 PM

67. And Davy played a mean tambourine! And Maracas!

Yes, Peter Tork was perhaps the most accomplished musician at the time. Nesmith was a better songwriter, but Tork new how to jam on the guitar. Davey knew nothing, he was just there because he was cute. Mickey had to learn how to play the drums for the gig, but his voice was golden. They virtually went on strike in order to put out Headquarters, the first album featuring mostly their own music.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:51 PM

15. OH my gosh...

I loved the Monkees! I had their pictures pinned up on the walls of my room and SO wanted a hair cut like Davy!

Oh the memories.

In case anyone wants to do some reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkees

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:55 PM

16. I remember well this Davy Jones Video posted on DU....

As he sat in with a local bar band:http://www.democraticunderground.com/125118089

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:56 PM

17. Please tell me you did NOT whip out your cell phone to update us with this scintillating info...

 

I was at an Aimee Mann show several weeks ago. The audience was mostly older: 30s+, and because it's Aimee they had a brain in their heads (yes--one brain and multiple heads...). So there wasn't any depravity with technology until after the 1.5 hour mark. That's when all the iZombies started rising from their slumber...

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Response to oh reiki ur so fine (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:06 AM

19. I was off back in the Mezzanine by myself so it didn't bother anyone.

Pretty much everyone in the audience was taking pictures and videotaping, but no one minded because everyone was having so much fun.

I've been an Aimee Mann fan for years, but I don't recall a requirement for arrogance.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:14 AM

21. I'm an Aimee Manniac

Hence my screen name

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:02 AM

18. I Saw Them in 1966

They were my second concert...I was 13

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Response to otohara (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:25 AM

29. doing the math....

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:25 AM

22. I wonder if anyone owns the Monkee Mobile?

...since the Batmobile just went up for auction.

p.s...(always the p.s.!) the wheels!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Monkeemobile2.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeemobile

Answered my own question!

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:55 AM

33. I still have a toy version of it

Has all of four of them inside it. One of my prized possessions!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:36 AM

24. Fun Facts-

Michael Nesmith was executive producer for one of my all time favorite cult movies- Repo Man.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087995/

Also, his mother invented liquid paper-
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/nesmith.asp

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:42 AM

25. "I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either."

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Response to Skittles (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:47 AM

26. There are 3 or 4 versions of this film out there.

I particularly enjoy the one where Harry Dean Stanton and Emilio Estevez break open a pay-phone with a sledgehammer.
"You'll find one in every car...you'll see"

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:53 AM

28. there are???

WTF.....I did not know that

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:27 AM

34. More fun facts:

1) Steven Stills auditioned to be a Monkee, was turned down for bad teeth.
2) Jimi Hendrix's first US tour was as an opener for the Monkees.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:02 PM

41. HEAD, a horrible acid-trip movie, was Jack Nicholson's first directing gig.

The movie is barely watchable, meant to be an "answer" of sorts to The Beatle's Hard Day's Night. But it produced what is, IMHO, the Monkees best album. Except for maybe Headquarters (the first Monkees album on which they actually wrote and played much of their own music).

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Response to Atman (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:22 PM

54. The movie is barely watchable?

I love that movie!

I mean I've never been able to make sense of it, but I LOVE WATCHING IT.

I find myself mesmerized by it.








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Response to Atman (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:14 PM

60. No, Nicholson co wrote it. Bob Raefelson directed it.

 

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Response to Atman (Reply #41)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 01:44 PM

65. Nicholson didn't direct it

Bob Rafelson directed. Rafelson also created the Monkees TV show. And directed Five Easy Pieces with Nicholson.

Nicholson co-wrote and produced Head.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:35 PM

58. He is also my cousin

Great guy.

He also wrote "Different Drum", Linda Ronstadt's first hit.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #58)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:16 PM

61. Pre Ronstadt

 

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Response to Great Caesars Ghost (Reply #61)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 12:58 AM

62. I actually own that album.

It's a bit too country for me, but I love MN's original "Different Drum."

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:53 AM

27. I only got to see bits and pieces of their shows.

My mom thought the show was just too weird. I thought it was great. I remember scenes of them being chased by someone in a gorilla suit. I didn't think that was too weird.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:24 PM

56. The show was kinda strange

IMHO, or maybe I just didn't get it because I was 9, 10 years old then. But the music was awesome and I played their albums constantly. Micky Dolenz was a truly great singer (no offense to Davy!), one of the real underrated talents of the 60s.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:00 AM

30. It's really cool however...my heart is still weeping for Davy, therefore

 

I love the Monkees
they deserve as a group to be in the Rock Hall of Fame
and should have 10 years ago
Why they are not there I have no idea.

After all, how many of the groups that are there were helped by studio musicians on their records? How many never wrote their stuff?
(most every west coast record featured the Wrecking Crew and Glen Campbell on guitar, yet he isn't in)

That said I have a bone to pick-and its the reason I ended up not buying tickets to see them tonight on their last date so far, and the last couple of nights

and that this really irritates me that Mike said no no no no no no no no no
right until the second Davy died.

then he came out of hibernation and starts a tour with the other three.

That tells me it wasn't the bogus reasons given over the years
It wasn't the WiteOut inheritance from his mom that made him a multi-millionaire so he didn't need the money of tours and new stuff and an association with his past.

No, it mean he was just like a teenage music fan
Ooh, I like Paul McCartney
no, I like John Lennon
no, I like Bobby Sherman
no, I like David Cassidy
no I like Davy Jones
no, I like Mike Nesmith
no, I like Mickey
no, I like Peter

and the fans be damned.

I saw the Monkees about 10 times with just the three, and all concerts kept that spirit that was the Monkees.

I so wanted to see this tour, but decided it did not ring true

I will go in March to the Monkee-Con that is coming to NJ,right outside the lincoln tunnel
where Peter and Mickey will appear (but no Mike) and it's a tribute to Davy.

I have about 20 Monkee songs on my youtube favored list.
(including the hilarious clip of Davy singing the great song "Girl" to Marcia Brady herself, Maureen McCormick.
But it irks me that Mike held that grudge.

Just as it always irked me that Paul could not get over it and now probably pines away for Yesterday and that yes, they could have gotten back together and done something before some asswipe took John away from us forever.

It was only ego and selfish of Paul.

John would have done it in a second. All it would have taken was saying let's do it.

Same with Mike. This could have happened with Davy and not a one off but forever.

I know Mike has his money and is set for life (at least I think so.) The other three never had that luxury and have been out there music wise since the band first broke up and with all the reunions.

I have met Mickey and Davy and Pete after shows and also at conventions they appeared hawking their stuff. Always friendly, always smiling, talking, lauging.

Why now Mike? Because now you are the leader of the band?

I don't mean to spoil the flavor of this thread, and again, I love the Monkees.
The four of them on record and tv. The three of them who stuck together on and off the last 40 years.

But I am missing Davy.
and this don't ring true.

(end of rant)(though it got started again.)

But I also love Mike too. Amazingly ahead of his time.
And I love his solo stuff too
Especially his version of "beyond the blue horizon" and he wrote one of the great songs of all time "Different Drum" that in 1968 Linda Ronstadt (then with the Stone Poneys) sang better than he did.(A song that had a line in it I always got wrong, until I saw it recently on a youtube with lyrics and said OMG how could I have misinterpreted that line so wrong.)

And as those that put the Monkees down for being "manufactured" again I say so?
What is the point of that?
How many superstar greats (like Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Eric Clapton, Elton John started out as a studio musician on one type of music, only later to find their own sound and style?
What is manufactured?(an LP is manufactured itself).

and sure, they were all hired as actors for the roles. So??? What were they suppose to be hired for as it was an ACTING show on tv.

James Dean was not a rebel with out a cause. He was a neurotic actor hired for the role.

And Neil Diamond finally got into the rock and roll hall of fame after being kept out for years.
He wrote I'm a believer back then and did it specifically for the Monkee show

I bet now the Monkees will enter the hall of fame. Now when it's too late for Davy to be there that night and bask in the glow. I feel sad about that.
(and yes, I chose Davy back when of the four. Because of his spirit, his fun, his voice.)
Without Davy there is no Monkees.

Just like without George and JOhn, Paul can sing every Beatle song ever written by them,but it is not the Beatles.
It is a red dyed hair bitter person doing what copy bands do everyday of the year.
A karaeoke version of the Beatles.
But it ain't the Beatles.
And it could have been the Beatles, save for a damn gun, an awipe and a man of the people who walked among people and because of that coward awipe who shot him in the back
32 years from this coming Saturday we never had the opportunity.

Mike had the opportunity for 30 years now, til just a few months ago.
But he save for a one off here or there, couldn't put his past grudges behind him.

All of a sudden, he is a monkee again, now?
it reeks. I would rather see Mickey and Peter doing a duet with some clips of Davy behind them. At least that would be authentic. (talking about manufactured).

Again, I love the Monkees, I love all four of them separate and together and have since day one.
But I could not buy a ticket to this. It was just too sad for me to go.


(and those who get the relatively new station, AntennaTV- both the shows and Head can be found there.Which became my favorite tv station there is. Some of the stuff they play cannot be found on dvd, or youtube or anywhere(like all the Jack Benny and Burns/Allen shows)

If Mike is still a Monkee next year, keeping together with the other two, who could use the extras having a monkee tour provides, I will go see that one. Because then I will know Mike that it is real and not just a way to feed your ego.
Like a real musician honing your chops so to say. Because this year it just to me personally, reeks of self-ego.

Goodbye Davy, probably now riding endlessly one of the beautiful horses you bred and loved.

from last year-


the Davy everyone remembers

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:49 AM

63. Girl!










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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:50 AM

36. Wow, that sounds like fun!

I still like some Monkees tunes, good pop songs.

Michael Nesmith also wrote Linda Ronstadt's first hit, "Different Drum", back when she was with the Stone Ponies.



Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, who wrote many of the Monkees tunes, were really great pop songwriters.

I think Mickey Dolenz' had a cool voice.

Ah, just another Pleasant Valley Sunday at DU.

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Response to Zorra (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:22 PM

55. Boyce and Hart did some good stuff

Loved their music..

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:54 AM

37. He was my favorite Monkee.

Hope you enjoy the performance.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:56 AM

38. They're not the Monkees without Davey.

Sorry. Not the same. Never again.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:57 AM

39. Awesome trivia: Jimi Hendrix got his start as an opening act for the Monkees

No one could figure out the crazy black dude playing acid guitar, and he was practically boo'd off the stage by the teenyboppers waiting to see Davy. I think Nesmith and Dolenz were the ones insistent that Hendrix open for them, but I could be wrong. I didn't Google the history first.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:59 AM

40. Best Monkees song ever: "Goin' Down"

Scat/Rock, sung by Mickey. Unbelievable.

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Response to Atman (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:08 PM

46. It was Mickey's tribute to James Brown, one of his idols.

It was always part of their live shows. Mickey would perform it solo as the singer while back-up musicians would be the band.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:05 PM

50. He did the James Brown dance last night.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #50)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:08 PM

51. That's very cool.

Especially at his age.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:14 PM

52. Love that song!

I only saw the show when it was in syndication. First in the 70s, then on MTV in the 80s.





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Response to napkinz (Reply #52)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:26 PM

57. They played the video of that song

at the end of one of the episodes. That's where I first saw it. It totally blew me away at the age of 13 or so, because it was so unlike the Monkee's music.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:49 PM

42. "a TV show about an imaginary band..."

"... that wanted to be The Beatles... that was never successful... The Monkees really becoming a band was like the equivalent of Leonard Nimoy really becoming a Vulcan." -- Mickey Dolenz

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:06 PM

43. lucky you. did they play circle sky?

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Response to dionysus (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:04 PM

49. Yes.

Very cool to see him play that crunchy opening riff.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:44 PM

68. Circle Sky is AWESOME.

There are so many hidden gems among the bubble gum.

Most of the Rhino re-releases contain another half an hour of out-takes and alt versions. There is some great stuff there.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:10 PM

47. I saw the Monkees minus MN, and didn't miss him one whit. DAVY is MISSED!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:20 PM

48. Mike Nesmith singing one of the most beautiful love song ever written

Joanne. It still brings tears to my eyes. It was a solo hit for him after the Monkees.


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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #48)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:00 PM

59. Wow. Thanks

Haven't seen him perform in years. Didn't know he'd been on Austin City Limits.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 01:32 PM

64. another great video from their show (and great song!)





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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 02:13 PM

66. Nesmith had a modicum of talent

The rest were nowhere near musicians. True then and now.

Bake

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