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Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:18 PM

Peggy Noonan: Why Can’t Obama Just Give Us What We Want?

Peggy Noonan is one of the wise elders of the right wing and she’s mad at President Obama. Why? He’s so stand-offish! Via DailyKos (emphasis mine):




You watch and wonder: Why does it always have to be cliffs with this president? Why is it always a high-stakes battle? Why doesn’t he shrewdly re-enact Ronald Reagan, meeting, arguing and negotiating in good faith with Speaker Tip O’Neill, who respected very little of what the president stood for and yet, at the end of the day and with the country in mind, could shake hands and get it done? Why is there never a sense with Mr. Obama that he understands the other guys’ real position?

It’s not as if Mr. Boehner and the Republicans wouldn’t deal. They’ve been weakened and they know it. A year ago they hoped winning the Senate and the presidency would break the stasis. They won neither. Mr. Obama not only was re-elected, it wasn’t that close, it was a clean win. If the president was clear about anything throughout the campaign, it was that he wanted to raise taxes on those he calls the rich. So you might say that a majority of the American people just endorsed that move.

No one would know this better than Mr. Boehner, who has risen to where he is in part because he’s good at seeing the lay of the land and admitting what’s there.

So it’s Obama’s fault for not just giving the GOP whatever it wants? How does that work? Oh yeah, I forgot! When Republicans win elections, they have unlimited political power and all must obey their dictates. When a Democrat wins, they really should just “compromise” with the losing minority. And by “compromise” they mean “do everything the way we want or we’ll bring the country to a screeching halt.”

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Reply Peggy Noonan: Why Can’t Obama Just Give Us What We Want? (Original post)
ashling Dec 2012 OP
MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #1
roguevalley Dec 2012 #17
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wilsonbooks Dec 2012 #28
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yardwork Dec 2012 #11
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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:21 PM

1. A Wonkette writer called her Peggington Noonington.

 

Can't think of her pompous ass any other way now.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:16 PM

17. she should hold a mirror in front of her face when she talks. she is a windbag times infinity

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:51 PM

42. A mirror??? How about a wind turbine...

...a fine source of renewable energy. We have a seemingly infinite supply of such windbags.

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Response to DreamGypsy (Reply #42)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:10 AM

60. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! i think I love you. :D :D :D

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:18 PM

49. You're right. Cheney ought to be thanking Obama for

not throwing him in the slammer, but instead he slanders him every chance he gets.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:33 PM

3. Like his resignation?

Have a piece of cake, Peggy.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:35 PM

4. Why is this drunken country club imbecile still given air time? Never mind I think

I just answered my own question.

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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:43 PM

6. She's a drunk?

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Response to whathehell (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:59 PM

44. Wow, this quote from Rick Santorum comes to mind!

...What a snot...

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Response to whathehell (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:02 PM

67. You mean it's normal to sound that way? nt

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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:07 PM

14. That was my first thought.

Put down the gin bottle, Peggy.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:02 PM

28. I have always thought that it was downers

But she could just be an old drunk

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Response to wilsonbooks (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:28 PM

36. Her gin fascination is legendary.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:29 AM

65. She came onto the set of Morning Joe either snockered or nursing a BAD hangover

once too often. She once looked down her nose at a fellow panel member and said he had a "little brain."

I haven't seen her on the show too much lately. Maybe they told her that she needed rehab before she could come back...

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:35 PM

5. What planet is she from?

The GOP has either blocked or managed to get all of Obama's goals watered down to mere shadows of what he wanted. This has been the most obstructionist Congress in history

Now, because Obama feels he can break through that because of his huge election win, he's being inflexible now?

Give me a break

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:51 PM

11. It's all they've got. The Rethugs have run out of options.

They're pretty much left with holding their breath until they turn blue.

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:04 PM

30. She's from Planet....

..Ann ("Just stop it!") Romney.

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:17 PM

33. The one with the gaseous clouds around it, if you get my drift, bwahahaha. nt.

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:13 PM

47. She's been a lyin scum-bucket long's I can remember

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:20 PM

50. Nailed it. She must not be able to hear the words that come out of her own mouth...

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:43 PM

7. Fuck off, Piggy.

You and your fellow assholes lost.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:58 PM

26. +1!!!!

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:43 PM

8. What a maroon. This Whiner is what the Repubbies regard as a "wise elder"?


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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:47 PM

9. Hmm, the party that claimed Obama voters

... "want stuff" is now demanding that POTUS give them stuff?

Their hypocrisy is stunning, as usual.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:47 PM

10. Because the GOP hauled in tons of concrete to build those cliffs, Peggy.

STFU.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:56 PM

12. They don't seem to understand the concept of losing.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:26 PM

18. And yet.. they're such

LOSERS.

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:26 PM

19. No argument there.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:00 PM

27. They think we are weak enough to be rolled over, and i hope that the dems give them hell

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:58 PM

13. Why does it always have to be the cliffs with republicans? Why is it always a

high stakes battle with republicans? Why don't the republicans just shake hands and get it done? Why is there never a sense with the republicans that they understand the other guys' real postion?

Why can't Peggy Noonan just tell the truth?

Oh that's right, because she's a republican.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:08 PM

15. She's horrible

 

She apparently lives in a dreamland where facts don't enter.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:09 PM

16. most Americans want what obama wants

That Is Why they voted for him and he won..

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:22 PM

51. Wait! That's our secret plan, don't tell them. They'll kick and scream! Uh, more.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:34 PM

20. Because President Obama has figured out

that, all by his little self, he's smarter than most of the Republican Congress, that's why.


What an idiot, and thanks BTW for helping The President prove that truth, Peggy, I'm sure he appreciates it.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:37 PM

21. After her pre-election article, she should be discredited at every turn:

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:39 PM

38. ROFL

But to the election. Who knows what to make of the weighting of the polls and the assumptions as to who will vote? Who knows the depth and breadth of each party’s turnout efforts? Among the wisest words spoken this cycle were by John Dickerson of CBS News and Slate, who said, in a conversation the night before the last presidential debate, that he thought maybe the American people were quietly cooking something up, something we don’t know about.

I think they are and I think it’s this: a Romney win.
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People are still laughing at their polling

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:24 AM

64. Wow--she was wrong on almost every point.

I wish pundits were held accountable.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:37 PM

22. Gover Norquist said it best

and we should never forget...

“I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.” Grover Norquist

Norquist immediately replied: “We will make it so that a Democrat cannot govern as a Democrat.”
GROVER NORQUIST, 2003, speech at his 25th college reunion

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:54 PM

23. Why can't Peggy Noonan just STFU??

Whiny fool.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:57 PM

24. What a tool. Didn't she say she "felt" that Mitt would win?

She's an inside-the-Beltway joke, channeling the late David Broder.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:57 PM

25. If only EVERYONE could be like Ronnie

Peggy Noonan's world would be a better place. For her.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:03 PM

29. Why can't they get over the FACT that they LOST

and move on?
WTF is the matter with these people? It seems that they don't want to compromise, it's their way, or the highway with them!

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:14 PM

31. back in the 1980s, WORK WAS DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS-no stupid 24/7/365 transparency

 

This stupid transparency has ruined most of everything and led to gridlock

It is hilarious how the tea party has sabatoged the way senate work was always done

BEHIND CLOSED DOORS

The founding fathers never thought of 24/7/365 media, and Fox TV
(in fact, a foreinger buying media as vanity stations for his own ulterior angles was not suppose to happen.)

In fact, the founding fathers never thought of TV either

Take away the god-damned transparency of 24/7/365 media and then people could hammer out agreements like was the way it was for 200 years plus before The Drudge and Fox came to town.

When one thinks about it, one has to feel bad for the pressure all politicians in congress face every single day of the year.
Left/right/center/extremists/etc.

because it rains down on them 24/7/365

But now that the genie is out of the box, I fear we shall never have that.

IMHO of course, and you all are welcome to yours, though I don't have to agree or disagree with it.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:14 PM

32. No words...

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Response to catchnrelease (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:21 PM

34. +1

with extra palm.....

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:26 PM

35. She is DONE, she is now a geezer despite plastic surgery, expensive skin docs eye

Her persona was marketable to panels and Faux in the Reagan aftermath, but she is skidding into irrelevance along with Brooks and any other leftovers from Bush Redux.

Good riddance. Cannot abide her to the extent that whenever I see her, I change the channel.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:36 PM

37. Hey Peggy

You lost big time - now STFU!

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:42 PM

39. I'm sure Obama and Tip O'Neill would get along marvelously...

The problem is that Mr. Boehner is not Tip O'Neill. Tip could put partisanship aside for the good of the country, as President Obama has demonstrated time and again during his first term, only to be met with raging ideology from the other side of the aisle.

So Peggy, if you're yearning for the days of old, perhaps you should talk to the members of your own party.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:45 PM

40. This is just like that RMoney guy who was so happy they got the "moral" (white) vote

Utterly, utterly delusional.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:47 PM

41. Didn't she want to give Reagan a footjob or something?

Am I remembering that right?

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:56 PM

43. Peggy, Peggy, Peggy ...

How can I miss you if you won't go away?

If I were wrong in public as often and as regularly as you are WRONG in public, I would be unemployed. But then again I'm not a Republican pundit. Apparently as a Republican pundit, you can have your head up your a$$ so far you can't see daylight, and you'll STILL be sought for an opinion.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:10 PM

45. Dear Ms Noonan:

 

Please step away from the bottle of Stoli...

the GOP just got crushed in the election. that means most people want the wealthy class to pay more taxes.

end of story.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:10 PM

46. Rethuglicans...

Always think they can get what they want.Reminds me of Ann Romney during election .."It's our turn "

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:17 PM

48. Ronnie had Alzheimers ...

Boehner is a lush?

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:26 PM

52. Maybe Peggy oughta pay attention to the guys who won't pass

anything through Congress.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:29 PM

53. Because what you want is harmful to the nation! nt

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:33 PM

54. Is she still hearing "the quiet voices no one else hears"?

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:40 PM

55. And where precisely does anyone think Republicans..

... got this idea from:

"When Republicans win elections, they have unlimited political power and all must obey their dictates. When a Democrat wins, they really should just “compromise” with the losing minority. And by “compromise” they mean “do everything the way we want or we’ll bring the country to a screeching halt.”??????


Did it come from listening to us "professional lefties" that have spoken out repeatedly about what happens when you capitulate to these assholes?


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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:30 PM

56. Elections Have Consequences, you cow

We gave the Repukes what they wanted, and the economy collapsed.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:32 PM

57. Peggums is demented

Bipartisanship is date rape, remember dear?

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:50 AM

58. If they want to get what they want...

...they should have elected Mitt Romney.

All those Republicans want are gifts. They just want free stuff from the govt.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:56 AM

59. Those who claim Obama didn't win by enough

or that congress is still in control by the GOP...just remind them Obama clearly won the popular vote, no supreme court had to stop the count and appoint him. I remember being told to shut up, sit down...for the good of the country, fall in line, we have our President...


well:


SHUT UP, SIT DOWN, FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:14 AM

61. Obama offered up cutting SS and Medicare TWICE and the GOP turned it town

 

time to give the GOP the finger and tell them to F-Off once and for all.

The the GOP don't like it they are free to leave.

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:28 AM

62. I think she must secretly hang out with Tommy Chong

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:33 AM

63. why doesn't that hag

speech writer for demon Reagan give us what we want and go the fuck away!

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Response to ashling (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:31 AM

66. Another whine in the LONG list of whiny columns by Republicans about how mean Obama and

the Dems are.

Suck it up, Peggy. You lost, you miserable loser. Wallow in it.

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