Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:33 PM
question everything (24,754 posts)
Gun Showdown at WorkThis discussion thread was locked as off-topic by aikoaiko (a host of the General Discussion forum). About 20 states have passed so-called parking-lot bills since 2004, including an expansion this year of a gun-rights law in Maine. But a split has started to materialize in GOP-controlled legislatures in some of the country's most gun-friendly states. Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee have refused to support such laws, proving receptive to a push by business groups in those states that have argued that the rules trample on their property rights. Businesses in other states have sought to oppose parking-lot bills by emphasizing the liability dangers that such legislation could create, but those efforts have been less successful. (snip) But amid Republican divisions on the issue, the NRA, one of the nation's most powerful and well-funded lobbying groups, is having to rely on pro-gun Democrats to carry some of the bills. Democrats in Alabama have already refiled bills for the legislative session that begins in February, and lawmakers are expected to do the same in Tennessee. Democrats carrying the bills say they believe gun rights should trump employers' property rights. (snip) In addition to forming an alliance with Democrats, the NRA is targeting one-time allies who refuse to back such laws. When Republican Debra Maggart, a staunch supporter of the gun group over her seven-year career in the Tennessee House of Representatives, decided with other members of her party to hold up a parking-lot bill introduced by Democratic Rep. Eddie Bass this year, she felt the consequences. The NRA spent tens of thousands of dollars on attack ads against Ms. Maggart, the only member of Republican leadership to face a primary challenge. One NRA flier declared: "Debra Maggart wants to shred your Second Amendment rights." Ms. Maggart said she opposed the bill because it encompassed properties such as day-care centers and colleges. "They singled me out to bully our caucus into voting for a poorly written piece of legislation." Ms. Maggart, a lifelong NRA member who owns a Remington shotgun, ultimately lost to the NRA-backed candidate by 971 votes in the primaries in August. More.. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324595904578123640080351414.html (copy and paste the title in google to open this)
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| question everything | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| CthulhusEvilCousin | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| patrice | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| patrice | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| loli phabay | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| X_Digger | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| question everything | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| Eleanors38 | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| aikoaiko | Dec 2012 | #8 |
Response to question everything (Original post)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:46 PM
CthulhusEvilCousin (181 posts)
1. Well
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on the bright side, maybe armed employees would get better pay and benefits.
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Response to question everything (Original post)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:58 PM
patrice (47,374 posts)
2. So Republicans are for private property rights except for when they aren't. Typical. nt
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Response to question everything (Original post)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:59 PM
patrice (47,374 posts)
3. Note to self: Check on how Kansas Democrats voted on this legislation. nt
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Response to question everything (Original post)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:07 PM
loli phabay (2,874 posts)
4. personally id just lock my rifle in my trunk and no one would know
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Or just park offsite.
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Response to question everything (Original post)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:15 PM
X_Digger (13,124 posts)
5. Not quite.. my private property rights (my car) aren't trumped by my employer's property rights.
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Just as I shouldn't have to disclose what religious tracts or political flyers I have in my car to my employer, they have no business asking whether or not I have a firearm in it.
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Response to X_Digger (Reply #5)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:39 PM
question everything (24,754 posts)
7. Several months ago, in Minnesapolis an employee was let go
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problems with attendance, I think. He went to his car, pulled a gun, went back and killed six. Including the owner of that small business that provided jobs and was an active member of the community.
One has to wonder what would have happened had this employee had to go home to fetch his gun. To paraphrase the NRA - flyers do not kill people; guns do. |
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Response to question everything (Original post)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:17 PM
Eleanors38 (3,447 posts)
6. There doesn't seem to be any real hurricane in this pekoe distiller...
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Funny, I wonder how many folks at DU even realize if their state has such a law or not. More likely they rolled over at the sound of: "This is as test. Had in been an actual emergency, you would have been instructed to...." and went back to sleep.
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Response to question everything (Original post)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:55 PM
aikoaiko (16,567 posts)
8. Locking
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This type of post is prohibited in GD based on the SOP. Consider reposting in GC&RKBA. Go Dawgs! |
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