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Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:07 AM

Is GOP behavior this week making the "Over the Cliff" option look better or worse to you?


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Reply Is GOP behavior this week making the "Over the Cliff" option look better or worse to you? (Original post)
Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 OP
99Forever Nov 2012 #1
Atman Nov 2012 #2
catbyte Nov 2012 #3
dawg Nov 2012 #4
Flashmann Nov 2012 #5
Avalux Nov 2012 #6
Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #7
Still Sensible Nov 2012 #8
Uben Nov 2012 #9
PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #10
Soundman Nov 2012 #11
Laochtine Nov 2012 #12
librechik Nov 2012 #13
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #14
Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #17
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #15
Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #16
ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #18

Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:13 AM

1. Better...

... and I was all for it before.

ffthecliff:

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:13 AM

2. I want to push the GOP over the cliff.

Fuck them. I drew this cartoon in 2004. Nothing has changed.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:18 AM

3. Better. I am not thrilled about my tax hike, but I'll live. Republicans need to deal with

the consequences of their inaction last year. Those bastards Boehner, Ryan, McConnell, etc. were so fucking arrogant that they thought Obama would not be re-elected & the GOP would regain a Senate majority giving them carte blanc to gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, shredding whatever was left of the social safety net to pay for lower taxes for their corporate overlords. That the election turned out almost the opposite of their expectations has left them befuddled, bewildered, and has completely exposed their utter incompetence at governing.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:21 AM

4. The cliff would cost me around $1,500 annually in Bush-era tax cuts.

It would stall the recovery, leaving us with zero, or even slightly negative GDP for 2013.

But I find that preferable to any benefit cuts to Medicare or Medicaid. Those programs need to be preserved, and even extended someday whenever it is politically possible to do so.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:21 AM

5. Better

Fuck 'em!

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:23 AM

6. I want to go over the cliff, with the GOP and Grover screaming on the way down.

I am fairly certain this will happen; although not acknowledged, it will give the GOP a way to allow taxes to go up on the wealthy without actually acting on raising taxes and will render Grover powerless.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:26 AM

7. I think some would like to cooperate, but McConnell never will.

Cantor, Ryan and several others will never cooperate with Obama, no matter what he suggests. Their egos won't let them, and we have to protect those stupid egos. (I keep picturing in my mind that photo of Ryan on the weight bench.)

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:34 AM

8. Not really. I think they are just shooting their final

salvo to save face with the teabag types and banksters, but will ultimately cut a deal on mostly the President's terms. They simply can't allow the MIC to take the hit... and they can't afford to take the blame for the two biggest outcomes--the middle class tax hike and the loss of jobs.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:35 AM

9. Better, but I don't want it to happen.......

...we'll all be better off if we avoid the cliff, but not at the cost of cutting entitlements. Everyone knows the eventual outcome will likely be higher taxes for the rich. The question is how much of the burden will they bear? They spent $300 million on the elections and didn't get squat, and now they are gonna be forced to pay a fairer share of the taxes, so they are gonna be 0 for 2. Maybe they should have embraced the Obama administration instead of financing the weak opposition in the elections. Too late, damage done....consequences to follow.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:38 AM

10. Better... Much Better... But

The discussions still aren't addressing the real solution.

JOBS!

Good-Paying JOBS!!

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:31 AM

11. Better

 

I may take a slight hit, but so be it.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:36 PM

12. Better

And they'll be skidmarking all the way down.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:38 PM

13. let's all hold hands and roll over the speed bump.

fgs...

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:39 PM

14. Better. Howard Dean made a compelling case for going off the Cliff. nt

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:42 PM

15. That raving bunch of lunatics and sociopaths does not affect my perceptions

 

of the 'Cliff'. I hope Obama and the Dems figure out a way to use it to squash the Rape-publi-scum into the dirt and onto the dustbin of history. Three months ago (before Nov.) I would have thought that a vain hope. Now I'm modestly optimistic that the Rape-publi-scum brand will go the way of the Whigs, ca. 1856.

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:45 PM

16. No deal is better than a bad deal. n/t

 

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:55 PM

18. Since Nobody Has Adequately Defined "Cliff" I'm Ok With It

Many economists don't share the view that it is a catastrophic option. Therefore, it's not really a cliff.

The term "cliff" is being used as a political tool and may have not basis in reality.
GAC

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