Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:21 AM

Well, fuck me. I thought I was on a DEMOCRATIC forum.

But I've just been reading post after post lauding Chuck Hagel of all people.

Lots of DEMOCRATS here on this board would be perfectly fine with President Obama nominating this very conservative REPUBLICAN with his very conservative (i.e. PRO-war, PRO-Wall Street, ANTI-female reproductive rights) voting record to the very influential and visible position of SECRETARY OF STATE.

Going on record in my own thread to state my total opposition to Chuck Hagel being part of the Obama Administration in any way.

I HOPE this is only a rumor. If it isn't, it's just another slap in the face from the president to his base who are NOT Repubicans and expect him to have a Democratic cabinet!

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Well, fuck me. I thought I was on a DEMOCRATIC forum. (Original post)	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	OP
Well, you're on record. Not that anyone gives a shit. Someone has to stop this....	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#1
No, I am not a good Repubican who blindly approves everything "mypresident" does.	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#7
Oh, I'm sure you don't "blindly approve of everything 'my president' does".	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#12
As a woman- that will be a bad move	LukeFL	Nov 2012	#57
Chuck Hagel	donnasgirl	Nov 2012	#217
I'll stop the "partisan bullshit" when the Republicans stop being the party of bullshit	Scootaloo	Nov 2012	#9
So you agree that Dems should only work with Dems, and vice versa?	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#10
That's not what he said or what I said. "WORKING WITH" is not the same thing as NOMINATING To	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#13
Well apparently McCain, Graham, and Collins all agree with you. They want JK.	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#15
They only want JK so Scott Brown can run for his Senate seat. n/t	intheflow	Nov 2012	#51
Every one 0of them has made positive statements about Kerry as a person and as	karynnj	Nov 2012	#127
And how honest have they been in their dealings with Rice.	daleanime	Nov 2012	#215
Where were all these republicans when Kerry was getting swift-boated?	Seedersandleechers	Nov 2012	#224
I believe the strategy is called "being kicked upstairs."	savannah43	Nov 2012	#268
No, they want senator Brown back.	quakerboy	Nov 2012	#56
blueorchid	blueorchid	Nov 2012	#254
Welcome to DU! Can't the legislature just change the law again and make the seat a governors appoint	hrmjustin	Nov 2012	#256
You're kidding right?	zentrum	Nov 2012	#62
No they don't...	Sekhmets Daughter	Nov 2012	#157
Yeah, Republicans just fucking love John Kerry	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#180
Thanks for posting that. GOP were handing out those goddam stickers and McCain and	AlinPA	Nov 2012	#245
Clueless and tone deaf to how republicans lie.	Jakes Progress	Nov 2012	#241
It is not a "reward"	jberryhill	Nov 2012	#19
Of course it is a reward.	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#28
No, these are very important jobs...	jberryhill	Nov 2012	#42
They are both rewards and important positions.	Laurian	Nov 2012	#247
I totally agree with you. The SOS in a Democratic Administration should be a Democrat.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#25
Obama has not said the vetting is for SoS. It could be for Director of CIA.	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#32
I'm going to wade in here and hope I survive with my head intact...	ReRe	Nov 2012	#72
I agree. If not Director of CIA, then Sec of Defense. But NOT Sec of State.	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#74
Well, if we can	femrap	Nov 2012	#227
OF COURSE!	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#175
I once read some one describing the two parties as "one shirt, two pockets."	savannah43	Nov 2012	#269
How about Republicans work WITH DEMOCRATS. Notice how the person you responded	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#47
Wish I could rec this post, Sabrina! I'll simply say a hearty & vociferous +1!!! n/t	tpsbmam	Nov 2012	#290
I agree with you	LukeFL	Nov 2012	#60
I think that Dems should not work with people who have a policy of fucking America over	Scootaloo	Nov 2012	#24
I think Dems should fucking destroy the repukes. We won the election, time to shut	morningfog	Nov 2012	#148
Have we entered some alternate universe ...	1StrongBlackMan	Nov 2012	#164
Thank You!	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#168
The operative word is the 'talented player', the 'accomplished employee'.	Cleita	Nov 2012	#249
Okay ...	1StrongBlackMan	Nov 2012	#255
Like I said this worked fifty years ago, but things started getting polarized	Cleita	Nov 2012	#262
In my experience, the arrogant brash employee will work toward the boss' goals ONLY...	Hassin Bin Sober	Nov 2012	#260
Republicans get what they want by stnading firm and being partisan assholes. They are not going	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#173
You can't be nice to these people?	butterfly77	Nov 2012	#237
It wouldn't hurt for the Dems and the president to tell.....	Hotler	Nov 2012	#221
In this day and age, I agree that Dems should only work with Dems.	Cleita	Nov 2012	#248
Well put.	Magoo48	Nov 2012	#132
The poster didn't say what you wrote. The concern was about a republican former Senator who	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#27
I have absolutely no qualms about Wesley Clark working in this administration.	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#43
You're naive	LukeFL	Nov 2012	#63
You're calling the President "naive"? Yeah, I	Cha	Nov 2012	#70
Call it naive...	sendero	Nov 2012	#114
The President has his way of doing things.. and it's not	Cha	Nov 2012	#252
What it generally has been.	sendero	Nov 2012	#261
No, he's not. The gops made a pact to obstruct the night Obama was	Cha	Nov 2012	#265
Prove it. You're the one making the empty assertion. The naive charge here is well founded.	ancianita	Nov 2012	#291
Or, it could be that Obama is continuously showing how the GOP is only	savannah43	Nov 2012	#272
That would be a good theory....	sendero	Nov 2012	#282
oh the deep deep irony!!! your post is fabulously dripping deliciously ironic! BOFFO!!!	graham4anything	Nov 2012	#85
It would be nice for you to explain what the hell you are talking about. nt	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#167
Wesley Clark great as he is thought to be VOTED FOR REAGAN AND NIXON	graham4anything	Nov 2012	#198
Shorn of all the sturm und drang . . .	MrModerate	Nov 2012	#40
Please understand this: I am not advocating for Chuck Hagel. I just don't agree...	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#46
So you say Republicans are as honorable as Democrats? Did you miss the election?	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2012	#110
They were doing everything in their power	Generic Other	Nov 2012	#141
totally agree	Euphoria	Nov 2012	#160
This is something that has become more than obvious	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#212
Ray LaHood has been an outstanding Secretary of Transportation who has called Republicans out on	Liberal_Stalwart71	Nov 2012	#233
Agreed that not all Republicans are insane — statistically alone, that's unlikely . . .	MrModerate	Nov 2012	#263
Really? Like Romney would have	LukeFL	Nov 2012	#55
I think Hagel is a balloon....	ReRe	Nov 2012	#73
I hope we don't make decisions based on what 'they' would or wouldn't do	duhneece	Nov 2012	#116
You could and should have made a valid point in a more civil manner.	Jim Lane	Nov 2012	#88
Well bubba, we are all going to die in any case. You have yet to give any cogent reason whatsoever	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#90
we dont need to stop this 'partisan bullshit' as you call it	bowens43	Nov 2012	#96
Yah, lets make the House completely irrelevant. nt	Flatulo	Nov 2012	#297
Straw Man Argument	NWHarkness	Nov 2012	#109
LOL, gullible much?	Logical	Nov 2012	#122
Let the Repukes stop the "partisan bullshit"	Doctor_J	Nov 2012	#135
You are naive and delusional to think the partisanship is anywhere near	morningfog	Nov 2012	#146
You are very wrong. Partisan bullshit will continue on the part of the GOp nomatter what we do. It i	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#172
Putting a weasel in the henhouse is definitely not going to help stop the killing.	Zorra	Nov 2012	#211
You're	femrap	Nov 2012	#225
Gee, by that standard, why not Mutt Romney?	stupidicus	Nov 2012	#229
Get over yourself, no-ones gonna die if Kucinich is on the cabinet instead. Unreal.	grahamhgreen	Nov 2012	#285
!!! thems fightin woids! PUT EM UP!11!!	dionysus	Nov 2012	#301
This belongs in META	cthulu2016	Nov 2012	#2
Hunh? A strongly worded disagreement with centrist tacking by the administration belongs	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#77
Hunh? If the OP cannot make a point without whining about DU then it is META	cthulu2016	Nov 2012	#184
Oh, I got you. Sorry I over-reacted. I guess I didn't tune in initially to the criticism of DUers	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#190
Well, for one, Chuck Hagel would not be able to vote on anything as the SOS	WCGreen	Nov 2012	#3
No - Hagel and his right-wing record would just represent the U.S. world-wide. He would be face of	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#5
Do you really think that the across the globe uber popular president Obama	WCGreen	Nov 2012	#20
His past voting record is completely at odds with Obama's. It sure could be used as ammunition.	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#26
It is a totally different job.	WCGreen	Nov 2012	#41
Hagel most likely is being vetted for Director of CIA, not Sec of State.	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#44
Duh	alcibiades_mystery	Nov 2012	#91
Well that last Republican CIA director was certainly a tower of propriety and ethics!	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2012	#111
Do you really view these things only in terms of making things easy for one person?	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#22
It's a way to show the people who are not hyper-partisan that Obama is willing	WCGreen	Nov 2012	#292
Why are Democrats always 'reaching out'? Towards the Right? We are always leaning over to	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#295
I got nothing more...	WCGreen	Nov 2012	#296
"Also, he serves at the beck and call of the President and not the republican party."	savannah43	Nov 2012	#273
Any member of the cabinet serves at the whim of the president....	WCGreen	Nov 2012	#293
No more of these Repukes!	DearHeart	Nov 2012	#4
Thank you.	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#6
Didn't Hillary vote for all the stuff you laid out there?	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#17
She's a -- you know -- DEMOCRAT! She may not have a perfect voting record -	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#23
Doesn't answer my question. The poster itemized some issues he had a problem with....	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2012	#34
Being a REPUBLICAN is a disqualifier. If that isn't obvious to you, I wonder why you're on DU.	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#193
Yes she did which is why I never supported her and would never support her for	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#213
Yes she did and I don't like her being the SOS.	DearHeart	Nov 2012	#80
absolutely. elections SHOULD have consequences.	bowens43	Nov 2012	#97
I vote for Bill Clinton	Angry Dragon	Nov 2012	#8
Bill Clinton?	freetrucker53	Dec 2012	#304
Won't sex ya, but I totally agree.	Tutonic	Nov 2012	#11
I've been amazed over the last 4 years at how much Obama gets a pass from DUers.	begin_within	Nov 2012	#14
Me too?	SammyWinstonJack	Nov 2012	#118
You're absolutely right. We elect Democrats in order to get rid of Republicans.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#16
K&R! Holeee shit, I just visitied the link someone posted upthead!	Poll_Blind	Nov 2012	#18
Who's next?	Art_from_Ark	Nov 2012	#29
We must learn to be tolerant of other people's beliefs	MannyGoldstein	Nov 2012	#37
Particularly PRO Corporate Beliefs...	Iggy	Nov 2012	#102
Tolerance is a good start, but to really understand our potential allies on the far right	Dragonfli	Nov 2012	#120
That was tried by the appeasers in term 1	Doctor_J	Nov 2012	#137
Most serious pragmatic adults realize that the mistake was we did not go far enough right!	Dragonfli	Nov 2012	#203
Where's Dr Fate?	OnyxCollie	Nov 2012	#220
Likely erecting a shrine to honor his prophet WILL MARSHALL	Dragonfli	Nov 2012	#234
Thanks for the humor, irony, sarcasm...Dragonfli and Manny Goldstein...	KoKo	Nov 2012	#151
lols...thanks for this.	KoKo	Nov 2012	#152
Chuck Hagel is already part of the Obama Administration.	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#38
yeah, some of us did	progressoid	Nov 2012	#156
Wow...and he's supposed to be a moderate republican???? n/t	bluethruandthru	Nov 2012	#231
I could live with him at defense, I think he actually could be good at CIA	dsc	Nov 2012	#21
Chuck Hagel is ALREADY PART OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTATION.	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#30
No, I'll leave my post right here, thank you very much. Oh -	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#31
We need healing now, not hate.	MannyGoldstein	Nov 2012	#33
.	Union Scribe	Nov 2012	#66
You had me scared for a minute there.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#176
Enough with appointing Republicans	KT2000	Nov 2012	#35
Mother	SamKnause	Nov 2012	#36
Spent the whole day arguing with third way "democrat" relatives	abelenkpe	Nov 2012	#39
Obama has not said the vetting is for SoS. Most likely it is for Director of CIA.	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#45
Why is it that, after an election victory, some "Dems" want to move to the right?	Bozita	Nov 2012	#48
Chuck Hagel has been part of the Obama Administration since 2009	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#53
That's supposed to make everything better? Lol. nt	laundry_queen	Nov 2012	#143
Look who these people are.	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#139
Nailed it...!	KoKo	Nov 2012	#158
Tell it like it is, woo. This should be its own OP. Seriously.	Melinda	Nov 2012	#159
Damn! +1000	Poll_Blind	Nov 2012	#169
You	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#177
I concur, the same group, the same con for years. I also believe it is time to wake up	Dragonfli	Nov 2012	#197
Excellent post as always. And this needs to be said over and over again to counteract	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#214
Because they are lying politicians	ann---	Nov 2012	#207
It's not "kissing butt" to try to work with the other side.	CheapShotArtist	Nov 2012	#228
the last four years PROVED we don't need to work with the other side..	frylock	Nov 2012	#280
Exactly!	ann---	Nov 2012	#294
So when is the Other Side going to work with Democrats?	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#299
Good to keep your friends close but your enemies even closer ...	MindMover	Nov 2012	#49
Only when defending Obama is more important to you than resisting Republican assholes.	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#196
And the voices that claimed Obama would go more to the Left this 4 years....	Bonobo	Nov 2012	#50
Lol, is anyone surprised?	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#58
Wow, so true. Imagine if I had started an OP pushing for Chuck Hagel for SOS	Bonobo	Nov 2012	#61
Someone should try it one day, before it is generally known to be not the idea of the	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#67
That would be an interesting experiment	Dragonfli	Nov 2012	#98
No one has posted any threads pushing for Hagel to be SoS. The articles ...	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#71
Has anyone done that?	joshcryer	Nov 2012	#89
Holy Miss-the-Point, Batman! nt	Bonobo	Nov 2012	#92
Get back to me when Hagel is appointed.	joshcryer	Nov 2012	#99
It is enough that he is being vetted. nt	Bonobo	Nov 2012	#101
Not really.	joshcryer	Nov 2012	#104
You no longer surprise me. At all. nt	Bonobo	Nov 2012	#107
Hagel was critical of Bush's "surge."	joshcryer	Nov 2012	#108
So if it were to happen	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#185
Depends. I will make a post about it.	joshcryer	Nov 2012	#239
Nailed	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#182
Unfortunately they don't	Doctor_J	Nov 2012	#134
some leading democrats prefer republicans to highly qualified liberal democrats nt	msongs	Nov 2012	#52
You may well have a point, but I won't fuck you.	Ken Burch	Nov 2012	#54
Patraeus is a registered Republican - if he's replaced by Hagel then what's the big F'ing deal?	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#59
We objected strenuously to Petraeus because he was a Republican and we were	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#64
+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#82
With Hagel..	zentrum	Nov 2012	#65
See comment #76 n/t	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#86
So you keep touting Petraeus as if he had not brought dishonor to the office and to	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2012	#115
Sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about	Inuca	Nov 2012	#183
You're wrong. See my post, #233	Liberal_Stalwart71	Nov 2012	#235
The Third Way/"New Democrats" ALWAYS lean right, hoping nobody will notice.	blkmusclmachine	Nov 2012	#68
Hagel questioned Petraeus in 2007 - VIDEO	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#69
Sen. Chuck Hagel: "What do you believe?" (Jan. 24, 2007)	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#75
'Hagel was a harsh critic of George W. Bush's foreign policy,	elleng	Nov 2012	#76
He is a RINO, everyone knows it..I almost dislike RINOs as much as I dislike DINOs	pipoman	Nov 2012	#105
It's not about party loyalty	Inuca	Nov 2012	#186
That may be an excuse for an occasional	pipoman	Nov 2012	#232
Emphatic K&R. If Hagel wants to be a part of this adminsitration, he needs to	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#78
Chuck Hagel has been part of the Obama Administration since 2009	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#79
I should have been more specific, as the president is entitled to seek advice	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#83
Why let the truth like that spoil the above people's factless lies???	graham4anything	Nov 2012	#84
Don't let some facts get in the way bashing the adminstration and Duers.	FSogol	Nov 2012	#126
Dear MotherPetrie...	ReRe	Nov 2012	#81
I love you quote Lincoln in your signature. Makes your words so Ironic	graham4anything	Nov 2012	#87
Whew! You're about the best rantor I ever heard...	ReRe	Nov 2012	#103
Most of my thread was referring to others, not yours.	graham4anything	Nov 2012	#131
I agree with everything you said...	ReRe	Nov 2012	#140
Actually, I like the idea of nominating Jon Huntsman...guess I'm a turncoat.	NC_Nurse	Nov 2012	#93
Rumor mongers.	JNelson6563	Nov 2012	#94
Agreed. Not trustworthy.	bluerum	Nov 2012	#95
This message was hidden by jury decision.	RandiFan1290	Nov 2012	#100
I feel RINOs like Hagel and DINOs like Lieberman	pipoman	Nov 2012	#106
Welcome to the Big Tent. First day here? Get a GRIP on reality please.	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#112
Speculative outrage is the best outrage...nt	SidDithers	Nov 2012	#113
CALL CONGRESS RIGHT NOW $#%@	FSogol	Nov 2012	#125
Realize that a lot of people come here because of the graphics and crackerjack web design.	Smarmie Doofus	Nov 2012	#117
One thing about it	madokie	Nov 2012	#119
K&R. It is SICKENING to see right wingers being defended here. I do not understand it!	forestpath	Nov 2012	#121
I like Hagel. So sue me.	babylonsister	Nov 2012	#123
better to march in lockstep	freetrucker53	Nov 2012	#124
"Your not going to get real debate here. "	ProSense	Nov 2012	#136
This is that upsetting?	ProSense	Nov 2012	#128
100% bullshit	spanone	Nov 2012	#129
Calling Skittles. Skittles.....	lonestarnot	Nov 2012	#130
It's for Dems and those who support everything the president does	Doctor_J	Nov 2012	#133
Well, well -- another	billh58	Nov 2012	#138
We elected the President, now he gets to decide who he puts in his cabinet. It is not up to you. I	Pisces	Nov 2012	#142
Someone should read the president DU's TOS	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#144
Not exactly.	ananda	Nov 2012	#147
Mengele is hyperbole, but you get my point	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#153
The reliable Third Way brigade. nt	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#155
It's really funny to watch people go absolutely apeshit over things that haven't even happened yet.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#145
Absolutely...	SidDithers	Nov 2012	#150
Maybe it won't happen	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#154
There's nothing saying Hagel is being vetted for SoS. That makes this OP even funnier.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#162
Maybe you should inform	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#165
...who is saying exactly the same thing I just said.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#187
But also defending the choice were it to be true n/t	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#194
I speak only for myself.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#200
I posted an article on DU that said 'someone' said he was being vetted for SoS or DoD.	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#274
Nonsense. We have already been sold.	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#174
Right. Let's all just stfu and wait till it's too late.	Jakes Progress	Nov 2012	#242
Yes and after it's too late, those that gave the speeches not to worry seem to be	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#302
Along with the admonition	Jakes Progress	Dec 2012	#303
Actually most presidents dem or rep have a member of the opposition party in the cabinet	WI_DEM	Nov 2012	#149
I think you are mistaking democrats for progressives	IDoMath	Nov 2012	#161
I like Hagel. He used to be Senator when I lived in NE.	TwilightGardener	Nov 2012	#163
HERESY!!!!1!1!11!!	WilliamPitt	Nov 2012	#166
LOL.	TwilightGardener	Nov 2012	#170
So you're making fun of people who DON'T support a rightwing Republican being part of Obama's admin?	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#192
sigh	WilliamPitt	Nov 2012	#202
I'm sorry too. His voting record is as right wing as theyc ome. Did you vote for him, too?	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#191
No.	TwilightGardener	Nov 2012	#195
I agree.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#171
Pro-war?	Daniel537	Nov 2012	#178
Photo please. Before I consider fucking you.	postulater	Nov 2012	#179
I'm sure the President could not give two shits about what some of you think.	great white snark	Nov 2012	#181
You mean he has WORSE things to do. And I am easily satisfied.	MotherPetrie	Nov 2012	#199
No, not even then, because talking about THAT...	bvar22	Nov 2012	#210
Golly. Since you seem to be someone the president does give two shits about	Jakes Progress	Nov 2012	#243
Supporting Hagel for anything on this board should earn one a pizza. nt.	NCTraveler	Nov 2012	#188
Pizza?	Inuca	Nov 2012	#189
Sexy combination. Could be a turn on. Ohh.... ummm. What board am I on again. nt.	NCTraveler	Nov 2012	#208
"Do as DU says, not as the president does!"	whatchamacallit	Nov 2012	#201
In a nutshell, yes....	Dragonfli	Nov 2012	#204
. . . . . . . .	WilliamPitt	Nov 2012	#205
I thought supporting Republicans was a violation of the rules here.	sabrina 1	Nov 2012	#219
I'm against it, too	ann---	Nov 2012	#206
Thanks. Awesome post. I'm right there with you. nt	Zorra	Nov 2012	#209
+1000	blackspade	Nov 2012	#216
Excuse me folks but	Vietnameravet	Nov 2012	#218
"Some of you are as unbending and demanding as Republicans".	CheapShotArtist	Nov 2012	#236
Heck no. He appointed Republican hero General Betrayus to the post of CIA Director.	Zorra	Nov 2012	#259
I too wonder about this continuation of bipartisan compromise. I think Paul Wellstone said it best:	midnight	Nov 2012	#222
Just a rumor	brush	Nov 2012	#223
indeed, it gets him nothing but a lot of dismay from his base	stupidicus	Nov 2012	#226
I've been preparing myself	femrap	Nov 2012	#230
K&R for use of the word fuck!	trailmonkee	Nov 2012	#238
I seriously have to wonder...	MirrorAshes	Nov 2012	#240
Very well put n/t	Inuca	Nov 2012	#251
Spot on! Thanks for this. nt	babylonsister	Nov 2012	#264
I'm so old that I know Chuck is a douche...I just can't remember the particulars.	peace13	Nov 2012	#244
This message was self-deleted by its author	sharp_stick	Nov 2012	#246
Welcome to all the Newcomers defending the GOP	leftstreet	Nov 2012	#250
I want Kerry!	blue cat	Nov 2012	#253
I‘m guilty of reccomending him. I‘m	applegrove	Nov 2012	#257
I would be very surprised if Hagel is being seriously considered.......	Swede Atlanta	Nov 2012	#258
Article that came out today says Dept of Defense NOT Sec of State. I think it'll be CIA	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#277
This message was hidden by jury decision.	bonniebgood	Nov 2012	#266
Hagel the horrible!	Rosa Luxemburg	Nov 2012	#267
as a Bona fide "radical leftist" I STRONGLY, STRONGLY support Chuck Hagel's nomination	Douglas Carpenter	Nov 2012	#270
Don't most administrations appoint a few from the other party to posts of some sort?	gateley	Nov 2012	#271
Yes, they do.	Jennicut	Nov 2012	#278
I agree about Hagel -- good experience, and I think he's a good guy.	gateley	Nov 2012	#283
This thread...	The Old Creak	Nov 2012	#275
well I like Chuck.	PatrynXX	Nov 2012	#276
In what world	kurtzapril4	Nov 2012	#286
Secretary of DEFENSE rumored short list: John Kerry, Chuck Hagel, Ashton Carter	Tx4obama	Nov 2012	#279
he'd probably be a fine sec. of state	arely staircase	Nov 2012	#281
I don't blindly trust Obama's judgment, but I do trust his judgment	xxxsdesdexxx	Nov 2012	#284
Right. Extrajudicial killing of Americans. Priceless.	grahamhgreen	Nov 2012	#287
Again. I actually trust President Obama's judgment -- not the judgment of George W. Bush	xxxsdesdexxx	Nov 2012	#288
That's dictatorship.	grahamhgreen	Nov 2012	#298
Nominate Bill Clinton	creeksneakers2	Nov 2012	#289
This is a "Well, fuck me. I thought I was on a DEMOCRATIC forum." KICK nt	Zorra	Nov 2012	#300

Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:26 AM

Tarheel_Dem (16,981 posts)

1. Well, you're on record. Not that anyone gives a shit. Someone has to stop this....

partisan bullshit, or we're all gonna die. You need to understand that the president's cabinet acts at his behest. They don't have to agree with him, but they do have to be subordinate. Get over yourself.

Well, fuck me. I thought I was on a DEMOCRATIC forum.

1. Well, you're on record. Not that anyone gives a shit. Someone has to stop this....

7. No, I am not a good Repubican who blindly approves everything "mypresident" does.

12. Oh, I'm sure you don't "blindly approve of everything 'my president' does".

57. As a woman- that will be a bad move

217. Chuck Hagel

9. I'll stop the "partisan bullshit" when the Republicans stop being the party of bullshit

10. So you agree that Dems should only work with Dems, and vice versa?

13. That's not what he said or what I said. "WORKING WITH" is not the same thing as NOMINATING To

15. Well apparently McCain, Graham, and Collins all agree with you. They want JK.

51. They only want JK so Scott Brown can run for his Senate seat. n/t

127. Every one 0of them has made positive statements about Kerry as a person and as

215. And how honest have they been in their dealings with Rice.

224. Where were all these republicans when Kerry was getting swift-boated?

268. I believe the strategy is called "being kicked upstairs."

56. No, they want senator Brown back.

254. blueorchid

256. Welcome to DU! Can't the legislature just change the law again and make the seat a governors appoint

62. You're kidding right?

157. No they don't...

180. Yeah, Republicans just fucking love John Kerry

245. Thanks for posting that. GOP were handing out those goddam stickers and McCain and

241. Clueless and tone deaf to how republicans lie.

19. It is not a "reward"

28. Of course it is a reward.

42. No, these are very important jobs...

247. They are both rewards and important positions.

25. I totally agree with you. The SOS in a Democratic Administration should be a Democrat.

32. Obama has not said the vetting is for SoS. It could be for Director of CIA.

72. I'm going to wade in here and hope I survive with my head intact...

74. I agree. If not Director of CIA, then Sec of Defense. But NOT Sec of State.

227. Well, if we can

175. OF COURSE!

269. I once read some one describing the two parties as "one shirt, two pockets."

47. How about Republicans work WITH DEMOCRATS. Notice how the person you responded

290. Wish I could rec this post, Sabrina! I'll simply say a hearty & vociferous +1!!! n/t

60. I agree with you

24. I think that Dems should not work with people who have a policy of fucking America over

148. I think Dems should fucking destroy the repukes. We won the election, time to shut

164. Have we entered some alternate universe ...

168. Thank You!

249. The operative word is the 'talented player', the 'accomplished employee'.

255. Okay ...

262. Like I said this worked fifty years ago, but things started getting polarized

260. In my experience, the arrogant brash employee will work toward the boss' goals ONLY...

173. Republicans get what they want by stnading firm and being partisan assholes. They are not going

237. You can't be nice to these people?

221. It wouldn't hurt for the Dems and the president to tell.....

248. In this day and age, I agree that Dems should only work with Dems.

132. Well put.

27. The poster didn't say what you wrote. The concern was about a republican former Senator who

43. I have absolutely no qualms about Wesley Clark working in this administration.

63. You're naive

70. You're calling the President "naive"? Yeah, I

114. Call it naive...

252. The President has his way of doing things.. and it's not

261. What it generally has been.

265. No, he's not. The gops made a pact to obstruct the night Obama was

291. Prove it. You're the one making the empty assertion. The naive charge here is well founded.

272. Or, it could be that Obama is continuously showing how the GOP is only

282. That would be a good theory....

85. oh the deep deep irony!!! your post is fabulously dripping deliciously ironic! BOFFO!!!

167. It would be nice for you to explain what the hell you are talking about. nt

198. Wesley Clark great as he is thought to be VOTED FOR REAGAN AND NIXON

40. Shorn of all the sturm und drang . . .

46. Please understand this: I am not advocating for Chuck Hagel. I just don't agree...

110. So you say Republicans are as honorable as Democrats? Did you miss the election?

141. They were doing everything in their power

160. totally agree

212. This is something that has become more than obvious

233. Ray LaHood has been an outstanding Secretary of Transportation who has called Republicans out on

263. Agreed that not all Republicans are insane — statistically alone, that's unlikely . . .

55. Really? Like Romney would have

73. I think Hagel is a balloon....

116. I hope we don't make decisions based on what 'they' would or wouldn't do

88. You could and should have made a valid point in a more civil manner.

90. Well bubba, we are all going to die in any case. You have yet to give any cogent reason whatsoever

96. we dont need to stop this 'partisan bullshit' as you call it

297. Yah, lets make the House completely irrelevant. nt

109. Straw Man Argument