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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:35 PM

Is DU now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham and united against Susan Rice?

It certainly appears so. The right wing knows that when attacking from the right doesn't work, simply attack from the left and we will eat it right up. Pathetic!

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Reply Is DU now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham and united against Susan Rice? (Original post)
fried eggs Nov 2012 OP
regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #1
x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #20
Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #26
Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #53
whistler162 Nov 2012 #29
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #35
yardwork Nov 2012 #37
99Forever Nov 2012 #33
godai Nov 2012 #60
NCTraveler Nov 2012 #62
babylonsister Nov 2012 #2
elleng Nov 2012 #3
jberryhill Nov 2012 #4
Aerows Nov 2012 #47
spanone Nov 2012 #5
RKP5637 Nov 2012 #6
ibegurpard Nov 2012 #9
RKP5637 Nov 2012 #14
JBoy Nov 2012 #7
LineReply .
Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #8
Snotcicles Nov 2012 #19
GETTINGTIRED Nov 2012 #28
Aerows Nov 2012 #48
NCTraveler Nov 2012 #63
union_maid Nov 2012 #10
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #11
ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #31
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #34
ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #36
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #38
Aerows Nov 2012 #54
NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #12
RKP5637 Nov 2012 #15
OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #13
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #16
catbyte Nov 2012 #17
JI7 Nov 2012 #18
Isoldeblue Nov 2012 #21
fried eggs Nov 2012 #24
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #25
AlexSatan Nov 2012 #46
blm Nov 2012 #59
Isoldeblue Nov 2012 #40
NCTraveler Nov 2012 #64
mfcorey1 Nov 2012 #22
ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #41
mfcorey1 Nov 2012 #44
Raine Nov 2012 #23
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #27
pampango Nov 2012 #30
ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #32
woo me with science Nov 2012 #39
creon Nov 2012 #42
LeftyMom Nov 2012 #43
woo me with science Nov 2012 #61
LeftyMom Nov 2012 #65
frylock Nov 2012 #45
Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #49
Aerows Nov 2012 #50
bowens43 Nov 2012 #51
Speck Tater Nov 2012 #52
quinnox Nov 2012 #55
Aerows Nov 2012 #56
BeeBee Nov 2012 #57
blm Nov 2012 #58
JoePhilly Nov 2012 #66
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #67

Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:37 PM

1. Is this the stupidest OP of the day?

It certainly appears so.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:01 AM

20. Gets MY Vote!

 

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Response to x2 vancouverite (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:00 AM

26. +1

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Response to x2 vancouverite (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:06 PM

53. mine also. nt

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:29 AM

29. Yes, your post is. Yet you made it?

The OP's observation is not incorrect.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021895778

Not to mention the "SUDDENLY REVEALED" investments in energy companies that would benefit from the KeystoneXL pipeline.

walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Guess what it ain't a hummingbird!

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:49 AM

35. What is your 'duck' that you think you've identified?

Do you really think that DU is "now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham"? Do you think that a couple of threads, bringing up totally different points from those senators, means DU as a whole has started agreeing with them, despite all the DU threads pointing out how the senators are full of shit? If so, you're completely clueless. Like the thread starter.

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:25 AM

37. Actually, the investments in energy companies bother me a lot.

Why would a career diplomat have such extensive investments in gas and oil companies? Whether true or not, it certainly looks like Susan Rice has a vested interest in the U.S. going to war in oil-rich regions. And she was, in fact, in favor of the war in Iraq. That smells, frankly.

This has nothing to do with the stupid Republican attacks against her.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:09 AM

33. If not..

... it's certainly in the running.

(it's early and the stupid is strong)

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:53 PM

60. Yes.n/t

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:57 PM

62. It's in the running.

Still lots of time left in the day.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:37 PM

2. Why do you ask? And ... no. nt

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:38 PM

3. no

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:39 PM

4. "DU" does not do "lockstep"

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:51 PM

47. Democrats in general

don't do lockstep. That's why we are Democrats.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:40 PM

5. WHAT???????

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:41 PM

6. What generated this question?

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:43 PM

9. her substantial holdings in TCPL

that Canadian company that wants to build the Keystone pipeline.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:50 PM

14. Oh! Thanks!!! n/t

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:41 PM

7. Lol.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:42 PM

8. .

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:00 AM

19. Thanks! now my sides hurt. nt

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:06 AM

28. Ahha I'm with this

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:52 PM

48. LMFAO

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:59 PM

63. I so wasn't ready for that while scrolling down. Thanks for the laugh. nt.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:44 PM

10. Did I miss something

Maybe something happened while I was ordering holiday gifts? Whatever it was, I'm quite surprised that it resulted in DU being in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham on anything at all.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:45 PM

11. Pretty much.

 

The GOP should learn the lesson of never attacking from the right. Always attack form the left and the far left will always do their dirty work.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:03 AM

31. Who's far left?

I consider myself to the left, true. But I only seem far left because the Democratic party has been infiltrated by center-right neo-cons.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:16 AM

34. To be quite honest, I disagree with the premise of your statement.

 

The Democratic party HAS NOT been infiltrated by the center-right. The center right has been a part of the Democratic Party coalition for decades. Accept it or be like the Republican Party, driven completely by the fringe elements of the furthest edge of political beliefs.

Neither party benefits from having the fringe elements control the agenda. Right now, the fringe right is destroying the GOP. Starting around 1972 with the disastrous nomination of George McGovern, the fringe left devastated the Democratic Party. The fringe left, in fact, insured that a Ronald Reagan would become president allowing for the so-called "conservative revolution" in this country.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:22 AM

36. You've shown your cards.

I don't deal with DLC apologists, right wing democrats, or third way apologists.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:36 AM

38. You have no clue about me

 

My stances on most issues are probably to the left of you. I am a realist, though. Rhetoric is the art of the ridiculous. Politics is the art of the possible. I understand that there is no way in hell I will ever get everything I want implemented. One must compromise in order to advance one's agenda.

Only the politically naive or the fringe of the fringe fail to see this reality and demand ideological purity. Those elements have all but destroyed the GOP. Those elements very nearly destroyed the Democratic Party in the late 70's and early 80's.

And do not get me wrong. There are certain areas where I will accept no compromise. Amongst these are the eligibility age for Medicare and the retirement age for social Security. IMO, altering these two things would be to break the compact of the Democratic coalition. If elected Democrats are so foolish as to do something like this, they will have destroyed themselves.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:07 PM

54. And here is some good old fashioned dissent right here

Who says we march in lockstep when we freely disagree with one another?

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:45 PM

12. I love Susan Rice and cannot wait to see her serve as SOS.

eom

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:53 PM

15. I wish there were a different abbreviation than SOS, 'cause often I think of the other SOS when

I see SOS.

PS: I think she would be great too!!!

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:45 PM

13. Fried what???? nt.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:58 PM

16. I think a few people have expressed some concern over her holdings in a firm having to do with

the pipeline. I do not see people here giving up on here. I want the president to pick a fight. I think you are wrong on this. DU on the whole stands with her.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:51 PM

17. "LOCKSTEP"? Here?



DU=herding cats. That's why it's so awesome.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:53 PM

18. is anyone on here saying she shouldn't be Sec of State because of Benghazi ?

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:59 AM

21. Guess you think your clever?

Actually, most of us here in DU march to a different drummer. Most of us don't do the party lockstep, because we have the ability to choose to think for ourselves. We leave the brainwashing to the right wing-nuts. Maybe, you are projecting your own feelings? Could be. But not clever, enough.

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Response to Isoldeblue (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:30 AM

24. "Most of us here in DU"

You have 29 posts! You're talking like you've been here 10 years!

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:59 AM

25. With only 325 posts of your own, you're in no position to try to pull rank

based on the number of posts you've made. Isoldeblue, however, seems to understand the general thinking on DU far better than you do. You seem to have taken one thread, about Rice's holdings in Canadian oil companies (not that you explained that was what you were whining about - someone else had to do that), and suddenly think that 'DU is in lockstep', and call the whole of DU 'pathetic'.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:49 PM

46. Ouch!!!!

 

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:27 PM

59. been seeing a lot of this lately and I question the sincerity of their 'concern' as much as McCain's

'opposition' to Rice. I'm not buying either. McCain and Company want Obama cornered into naming Rice so they can have the neocon they prefer (ala Hillary) while they enjoy the 'perks' with the base of pretending they are against her.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:57 AM

40. I only post

when I have something of substance, worth saying.

I've lurked here a long time, so I think I have the feel of many that post here.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:01 PM

64. Irony. It's whats for dinner. nt

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:20 AM

22. I am solidly with Susan Rice, investments and all. No rethuglican witch hunt will

change my mind.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:56 PM

41. can i ask why?

im sure you have your reasons. id like to hear them.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #41)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:04 PM

44. She brings solid experience in foreign affairs. Now, all will not agree with some of her

diplomatic relations, but they have not destroyed our relations with the many countries with which she collaborate. In addition, she is closer to state department affairs than bringing in a newbie. I also do not want to see McCain, Ayotte, and Graham use their bully pulpit to destroy the career of the UN Ambassador. They are mean spirited and obviously have an agenda of creating chaos for the second term of the President. Would McCain like for us to revisit the many allegations that are there about his time as a prisoner of war? There are still questions there that might want us to retrieve any medals he has.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:29 AM

23. "Lockstep"?? Well FUCK that SHIT .. nt

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:01 AM

27. DU?

In lockstep?

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:38 AM

30. Some think the GOP is playing 4D chess. They secretly like Rice but

figure that if they attack her unrelentingly, Obama will reflexively nominate her just to spite them, secretly giving them who they wanted all along.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:04 AM

32. Lock step?

Actually you seem to be the one crying because people aren't in lock step with your opinion.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:39 AM

39. In what universe are we supposed to be happy about an SOS pick


who is a warmonger and who has intimate ties to Big Oil?

What ridiculous propaganda to get Dems to celebrate exactly the sort of SOS we should be opposing.

Removing Kerry from the Senate or placing Rice at SOS should not be the only options here.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:57 PM

42. no

NO

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:04 PM

43. "You're either with us or against us" -George W. Bush, Nov. 6, 2001

Try not to emulate the patron saint of cartoonish simplifications of a complex world.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:55 PM

61. I love your posts.

This grade school argument is all over the board today. In responses to this thread, we are told that, because Ron Paul is against drone strikes, we should be for them:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021896319



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Response to woo me with science (Reply #61)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:12 PM

65. Heaven forfend we unite in our opposition to flying murder robots.

I really wonder about people sometimes. *sigh*

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:30 PM

45. herpity derpity

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:54 PM

49. I've been looking for a new framer for my house

Interested?

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:58 PM

50. What is this place

Where all DUers agree? Delusionals United? Dark Utterances? Demonic Uteri?

Because it certainly isn't Democratic Underground. I don't think we can even agree with what morning beverage to drink is acceptable around here, even if coffee, tea, milk and organic juice were in the running.

Hell, I'm pretty sure that someone on here wants to discuss the color of the sky and whether water is wet.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:03 PM

51. If you think DU is EVER in lockstep on any issue or anyone

then you haven't been around very long

We never do lockstep...

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:05 PM

52. You beat me to it! Is a gaggle of feral cats EVER in lockstep? nt

 

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:08 PM

55. It is possible to think in shades of gray, not only just in black and white thinking

 

It's simple-minded to think, "Oh, since the GOP is attacking Rice, that means I have to be for her"

It's possible to think, "Oh, I really don't like certain things about Rice (hawkish to the max, oil polluters heavy investor) so I don't want her as SoS. What the GOP is doing is irrelevant to my opinion"

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:09 PM

56. It occurs to me

that the OP would be better off calling themselves "Fried Chicken". They certainly are angling for the job.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:10 PM

57. You're kidding, right? n/t

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:20 PM

58. Are YOU so easily fooled by McCain and Co that you BUY their dog and pony show of 'opposing' Rice

whose neocon views (ala Hillary) comport most closely with their hawkishness?

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:15 PM

66. Who sent you?

DU ... in LOCK STEP?

Fucking Hilarious!!!

Be gone ... you have no powers here!

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:19 PM

67. What is this...lockstep you speak off?

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