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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:03 PM

All of the Gulf of Mexico Just Got Sold.



TOMORROW: Obama Administration To Offer More Than 20 Million Acres in Western Gulf of Mexico for Oil and Natural Gas Exploration and Development

November Sale Will Offer All Available Unleased Areas in the Western Gulf of Mexico, Only Latest in a Series of Recent Major Offshore Oil and Gas Sales

11/27/2012

Contact: Blake Androff (DOI) 202-208-6416
John Filostrat (BOEM) 504-731-7815


WASHINGTON – Tomorrow, as part of President Obama’s all-of-the-above energy strategy to continue to expand safe and responsible domestic energy production, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) will hold an oil and gas lease sale that will make more than 20 million offshore acres available, and represents all unleased areas in the Western Gulf of Mexico Planning Area. The Western Gulf of Mexico Lease Sale builds on two major Gulf of Mexico lease sales in the past year alone, a 21 million acre sale held last December and a 39 million acre sale held in June.

“At President Obama’s direction, his Administration continues to implement a comprehensive, all-of-the-above energy strategy, expanding domestic production, reducing our dependence on foreign oil, and supporting jobs,” said Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. “Developing public energy resources in the Gulf of Mexico continues to generate much needed revenue for local communities while helping to power our nation and fuel our economy.”

The lease sale will be held on November 28, 2012 at 9:00 AM CDT, at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana—and supports the Administration’s goal of continuing to increase domestic oil and gas production, which has grown each year the President has been in office, with domestic oil production in 2011 higher than any time in nearly a decade and natural gas production at its highest level ever. Foreign oil imports now account for less than 50 percent of the oil consumed in America – the lowest level since 1995.

Tomorrow’s offshore lease sale will be the first held under the Administration’s new Outer Continental Shelf Oil and Gas Leasing Program for 2012–2017 (Five Year Program), which makes available for exploration and development all of the offshore areas with the highest conventional resource potential that together include more than 75 percent of the Nation’s undiscovered, technically recoverable offshore oil and gas resources. BOEM also recently announced that the next Central Gulf of Mexico lease sale, proposed Lease Sale 227, will take place on March 20, 2013, making 38 million acres available.

more:
http://www.doi.gov/news/mediaadvisories/tomorrow-obama-administration-to-offer-more-than-20-million-acres-in-western-gulf-of-mexico-for-oil-and-natural-gas-exploration-and-development.cfm
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kpete Nov 2012 OP
NickB79 Nov 2012 #1
russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #4
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #66
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #101
Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #2
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woo me with science Nov 2012 #9
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bhikkhu Nov 2012 #85
tama Nov 2012 #102
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dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #10
NCarolinawoman Nov 2012 #49
SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #11
OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #16
SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #32
morningfog Nov 2012 #25
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OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #68
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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:05 PM

1. Thank God Obama is taking global warming seriously!

See, it's only bad for the environment if we burn OTHER people's oil. Our own American oil emits fairy dust and daisy farts when burned in a Hummer.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:13 PM

4. I am afraid you are correct.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:56 PM

66. Energy efficiency standards across the board have been raised by Obama and are being raised more.

What Obama realizes that you don't is that the economy can't get shut down while those standards take hold. To some of you complaining, did you complain when Nader handed Bush Florida in 2000 and the Presidential election with it? Fuck the Supreme Court stole the election argument, 97,000 people in Florida that voted for Nader gave the Court that chance. Bush presided over one of the most damaging administrations in history in regards to global warming damage, Obama has run his ass off to start reversing policies that were implemented by Bush - including the Bush administration's outright hostility to green energy production. If you are of the mindset of the 97,000 in Florida, blame yourselves for the increase in global warming because you are significantly responsible.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:18 PM

101. +1

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:05 PM

2. no fucking words. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:08 PM

3. You don't think corporations would allow two *fully* different choices for President, do ya?

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:25 AM - Edit history (1)

It's all one "sponsor-approved" corporate spectrum, from "Republican lite" to "Crazed Fascist Dingbat."

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Response to villager (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:34 PM

60. ^ This, unfortunately. n/t

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Response to villager (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:58 PM

91. Not funny, but you made me laugh.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:17 PM

5. I can certainly understand this

GOM is fucked up beyond all possibility of repair anyway, might as well make the shit officially condemned.

Of course there's no real changes on how big oil does a damn thing; how they drill or maintain drills, wells and platforms, no new technology to clean up the oceans and shorelines and certainly no new improved way to prevent the poisoning of wildlife, sea life or our food supply or *gulp* humanbeings. It's all collateral damage to them.

Drill Baby Drill, the ocean's just fine - Come on down!!!





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Response to nc4bo (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:42 PM

8. The big picture is global warming

The GOM is damaged, but that damage pales in comparison to what we're already seeing from global warming's impacts.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:32 PM

6. Bye bye oceans

Hello global warming. The earth is doomed by money hungry idiots.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:35 PM

7. But not to BP, so we got that going for us.

Selling "all of the Gulf" seems like the corollary to being "a little bit pregnant" - it's an all or nothing proposition.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:47 PM

9. Obviously a Republican forced him to do it.

He has had the exact same problem with his Justice Department. Remember when they were escalating the war on marijuana and letting criminal bankers off the hook and defending Telco spying and going all the way to the Supreme Court to argue FOR warrantless wiretapping and strip searches for any arrestee? All against his deeply held principles?

We have *got* to figure out how these Republicans keep making his administration do all these things, even when no voting is involved.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:26 PM

15. Nah, Obama's got the Repubs right where he wants 'em!

It's N-dimensional rope-a-dope with chess pieces, I tell ya!

Brilliant!

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:29 AM

85. Obviously, 200 Million US drivers expected him do do this

...as they just keep on racking up the miles. How do you separate producing the fuel from burning the fuel, and how do you think a president would be viewed who made unavailable something that the majority depend on?

I'd like to think that things will change, but I don't see people changing.

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Response to bhikkhu (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:18 AM

102. Mileage is going down

 

In US and other OECD nations after 2008 people are driving less and less.

Of course what is left unconsumed by that progress, is taken up by Chindia...

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:43 AM

110. He's not a dictator!

He can only NOT sell the Gulf of Mexico if he has a super majority in Congress!

Oh, wait... errr, it's called bipartisanship. Why do you hate America?

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #110)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:53 AM

112. Why does America hate Earth? nt

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:56 PM

10. I AM SO DAMN ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!


I am sure I am not the only one here who has tears of anger and disgust at this announcement.

I am angry that my sons and grandkids will never ever know what it is like to eat fresh clean shrimp from the Gulf
or to grab trout with a net from fresh clean rivers in the Pac. NW
or to breathe non radiated air on the West Coast.

More and more each day I totally get that last scene in Soylent Green when edger G. Robinson's character voluntarily agrees to be euthanized to wall size pictures of clean landscapes, crystal clear rivers, etc.
(if you have never seen the movie, now is the time)

Those fuckwads won't be happy until the entire Gulf is blazing from one end to the other.
Then they will want to sell tickets to the world's largest BBQ.
which reminds me..how is that last well fire doing out by Louisiana?


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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:45 PM

49. ****

I could not agree more!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:59 PM

11. So is it ok to complain yet?

Now that Obama is in office for another 4 years am I allowed to bitch about this? Or will someone come along and explain to me how this is a good thing since a Democratic administration is doing it?

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:30 PM

16. You missed your opportunity for redress (6:37 am - 6:40 am, November 7, 2012.)

There's the midterms to worry about now, and that kind of talk is going to cost us the Senate.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:52 PM

32. You'll be sure to let me know

if another window of opportunity is coming up? I would certainly appreciate it

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:23 PM

25. He's only been in office four years!!1111!1!11!

Give him time to fix all of this!!!11111!1!1!1

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Response to morningfog (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:44 PM

31. Really. I held my nose while casting my vote for Obama the 2nd time, because I thought just

this exact thing would happen.

He's a Republican, folks. Might as well get used to it. He'll use lube while he fucks us, and the lunatic Pubs wouldn't. Hell of a difference there, ladies and gentlemen.

I have to say I have totally lost any interest in politics. I no longer feel that my vote means a goddamn thing, and frankly, I don't give a shit what happens in the midterms.

All those dems "holding Obama's feet to the fire" -- how's that working out for you? Your 'fire' is about as hot as day-old mashed potatoes. The heat from the plutocracy, though, seems to be singeing Obama's ass daily.

Just disgusting. I'm done.

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Response to Nay (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:03 AM

79. Good

 

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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Response to Floyd_Gondolli (Reply #79)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:24 AM

105. Out from where?

 

Who is leaving? This is our planet, our only home and we belong to it. Fictious corporate and government persons have no right to spoil our home.

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Response to Nay (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:20 AM

103. Thoreau and Civil Disobedience

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:11 PM

12. *sigh*

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:21 PM

13. No words left.......

Phooey

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:26 PM

14. Disheartening

This truly makes me sick.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:33 PM

17. Shit.

Thanks for driving a stake into the planet, O.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:33 PM

18. Its the Third Way... nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:34 PM

19. I remember the first time....

....I got to go to Fort Walton Beach. I was a little tad with a full head of hair and unbridled optimism about life. Fort Walton Beach had to be one of the most beautiful places I had ever seen. The sand was sparkling white, not like the yellowish sand on the E. Coast. The water was stunningly clear and free of debris (unlike the beaches in CA).

Having grown considerably older and jaded since those days, I would never go back to Florida again. But it really pisses me off that the OPTION of going back to those wonderful, pristine beaches no longer exists. Then to top that injury off, I hear a constant barrage of phucking BP ads on the radio - all day long - telling me how the Gulf is open and just fine.

Like sprinkling some clean sand on a pile of shite is gonna cover up the stink?

What's the point? We have passed the tipping point in saving this planet. I give us maybe 10 years before things really start going to hell. And you know what? Arseholes on the Reich will still be thumping their gnarled little fists on the Corporate Media telling us everything is just f-ing fine!

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Response to azbillyboy (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:45 PM

48. I was born in and grew up in FL, so this whole thing was a visceral nightmare for me. I almost

had to go on meds during the poisoning of the Gulf. I felt gutshot.

All I can say is that a lot of people are going to get what they richly deserve, and a bunch of innocents are going to suffer just as badly.

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Response to Nay (Reply #48)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:06 AM

81. You say that...

...a lot of people are going to get what they deserve. Really? It seems to me like the guilty often skate through unharmed while the innocents pay the price.

I remember pulling up Ft. Walton and Destin on google earth when BP was pumping zillions of gallons of filth into the Gulf and I cried for the loss.

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Response to azbillyboy (Reply #81)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:00 PM

88. The guilty DO escape relatively unharmed -- until the planet itself has too much damage and they

cannot escape either. There's no other planet to go to -- yet. And if there ever is one, the rich folks will be going first while the rest of us fry.

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Response to Nay (Reply #88)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:45 PM

89. Oh yeah!

There's a big "adjustment" coming when the Earth says "Enough!" Where will the rich hide?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:35 PM

20. Inverse Fascism, like Chris Hayes keeps saying.....

 

Boy, the emails to Congress will be devastating....

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Response to plethoro (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:41 PM

56. Disaster Capitalism, as Klein said.

BP got away with destroying a huge chunk of the gulf, so now the rest of it is up for sacrifice.

It's not like we couldn't be pushing on a national effort to create non-oil forms of transportation and energy or anything, right?

Plus the fuckers get a gov't subsidy for drilling in OUR back yard!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:52 PM

67. I think we're past flashpoint, dixiegrrrl. I think this stuff is

 

being done to keep us solvent so the banksters have something to write derivatives against.

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Response to plethoro (Reply #67)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:03 AM

68. +1

You see clearly.

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Response to plethoro (Reply #67)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:06 AM

72. the next step I am waiting for is

a decision to fill the Grand Canyon with nuclear waste.
then cement it over.
After all, it is just a big hole in the ground sitting around not being put to productive use, right?

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #72)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:58 AM

78. Uh oh. I hope none of McConnell's Morons are reading your post. They'll

 

think that is a great idea.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:18 PM

21. Thread Title FAIL -

Since people are too lazy to actually research what the "Western Planning Area" consists of-




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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:54 PM

34. Oh thank god it's only part of the GOM...

I was worried

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:55 PM

35. Looks like a lot more deep water drilling,, what could go wrong?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:20 PM

41. Oh, well, everything's OK then

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:36 PM

57. for the most part, yeah things are pretty good...

As our President continues to plan for all energy sources to meet immediate needs, become energy independent, and invest in future technology,

We are all doing pretty good. That's why we voted for the smart guy remember!

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #57)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:47 PM

64. are we stockpiling all this oil?

as a vital economic asset? or are we selling it?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:14 AM

73. Like the Tar Sands...will we be assured the oil stays here? Or does it go to China, India

and elsewhere like TarSands Keystone will do? Of course the decision about Keystone Pipeline will be made by Susan Rice if she is confirmed as SOS. Since she has huge holdings in KeyStone and oil companies along with Canadian Banks who fund the pipelines I'm sure she will be fair about this.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #73)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:38 AM

76. the oil will go to Texas..which has seaports...

which is why they want to create that damn long pipeline.
We have been selling oil from this country to other places for decades.
Can't make any money if you just store it for future use in American, don'tcha know.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:44 PM

93. Okay...ship it out and not that American People are Independent..but it's help to

our Exports so that Ben Bernanke can squeeze those who depend on Savings Account and CD interests to get by once again...Shafting Us Savers?

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Response to KoKo (Reply #93)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:11 PM

96. You are getting interest on your savings accounts and cds?????????

You are doing good.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #96)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:44 PM

97. Yeah...Wopping 0.1%...If I yell like hell I can get 0.4% but have to call bank in 3 Months!

Hurts a lot of folks who depend on safe income in their older years, though. I can wait...but, they can't and it sucks.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:44 AM

77. droughts, flooding, wildfires, hurricanes, mass vegetative die-offs...

declines in agricultural productivity, ocean acidification, rising sea levels, and the triggering of positive feedback loops such as melting permafrost and the decline in reflective sea ice at the poles are not doing pretty good. We are on a track to mass death of the human race. Every single ounce of fossil fuel that we extract ensures the doom of billions. None of that is smart.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:22 PM

42. You missed the memo; five percent of something is the whole thing now, apparently

Marvel as any responses you get (other than this one) either dodge that point or claim it straight up.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:31 PM

43. Oh yes, that'll not hurt at ALL during the next explosion/spill.......

I'm sure it will be confined to that one little area. I mean it's only from south Texas to south Alabama. Right?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:32 PM

44. Endorsed by Sierra Club?

Oh my!!1!

<snip>

"GULF LEASE SALE TODAY: The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management will hold an oil and gas lease sale today made up of more than 20 million acres in the Western Gulf of Mexico Planning Area. Building on two other sales in December and June, today’s is the first under the administration’s five-year plan. The 3,873 blocks up for grabs today range from depths of 16 feet to 10,975 feet (a little over two miles) and could yield 116 to 200 million barrels of oil and 538 to 938 billion cubic feet of natural gas, according to BOEM. The sale takes place at 9 a.m. CDT at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans.

Sale as indicator of future: The National Ocean Industries Association expects the sale to be “interesting.” As the first sale under the five year plan, NOIA President Randall Luthi said in a statement, “the level of activity in this sale will be a good indicator of industry’s confidence not only in the remaining resources of the Western Gulf of Mexico, but also in the Administration’s willingness to allow those resources to be developed in a timely fashion.”

Greens not happy: Several environmentalists took to Twitter yesterday to bash the sale. “Obama, endorsed by Sierra Club, LCV, NRDC, MoveOn, opens 20 million offshore acres in Gulf of Mexico for drilling,” Brad Johnson of Forecast the Facts wrote. “Black Fri., Cyber Mon., now All of the Above Wed.” blogger R.L. Miller wrote of the sale.

http://www.politico.com/morningenergy/1112/morningenergy9555.html?hp=l6_b6

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:50 PM

51. So? n/t

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:14 PM

59. This threatens the Flower Gardens

One of the few reef systems in the Gulf. Unique habitat that attracts corals, lots of fish, whale sharks, all of which are not threatened.

How many times do I have to say that we cannot trust Obama?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:19 PM

22. He alluded to this all along; doesn't make it any easier :-((((((((((((((((((((

Means we're going to have to commit more fully to get NEW green candidates in during the mid-terms and plan for what happens if we don't succeed.

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Response to patrice (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:57 PM

36. Thats Tombstone talk,

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Response to bahrbearian (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:04 PM

38. There are such a thing as green Democrats. I worked for one recently. & What we do if we don't

succeed encompasses an extremely wide variety of activities, many of which could be about putting pressure, actually, increasing pressure that is, on Democrats in the same fashion that the Tea Party did to the Repubican'ts.

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Response to patrice (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:33 PM

45. Ain't it funny how all that stuff we THOUGHT the Democratic Party stood for...........

now is IMMEDIATELY confused with a third party?

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:14 PM

55. Some times I vote Green or even Socialist, because the Dems don't seem to get it.

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Response to bahrbearian (Reply #55)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:30 AM

106. And that is not tombstone speech.

 

Glad the election hysteria is over, at least for a while.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:19 PM

23. That is not the only natuional resource on the Auction Block.

What if I told you the Obama administration's first major post-election policy move was a big, fat gift for Rupert Murdoch?

<snip>

Word is that Murdoch now covets the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune — the bankrupt-but-still-dominant newspapers (and websites) in the second- and third-largest media markets, where Murdoch already owns TV stations.

Under current media ownership limits, he can't buy them. It's illegal ... unless the Federal Communications Commission changes the rules.

But according to numerous reports, that's exactly what FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski plans to do. He's circulating an order at the FCC to lift the longstanding ban on one company owning both daily newspapers and TV stations in any of the 20 largest media markets.

And he wants to wrap up this massive giveaway just in time for the holidays.
<more>

http://www.freepress.net/blog/2012/11/19/why-obama-fcc-plotting-massive-giveaway-rupert-murdoch



Looks like our airwaves are on the block....AGAIN.
Get ready for another round of Media Consolidation

It just keeps getting worse.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:39 PM

30. This sounds super important and should be it's own OP!

Murdock controls way too much US media all ready

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:52 PM

33. I agree,

....and posted it to General Discussion.
your Rec can help get it to the Greatest Page for wider distribution.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021896902

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:47 PM

63. Obama was the top recipient of Newscorp campaign contributions.

Along with eight other Democrats (and Sen. Bob Corker.)

The only difference between Democrats and Republicans is the price to buy them.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #63)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:32 AM

107. Dems are cheaper? nt

 

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Response to tama (Reply #107)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:42 AM

118. Nope. More expensive.

Go to Open Secrets and look at the oil industry's lobbying expenses during the Bush administration. It was steady for the whole eight years. Beginning in 2008, it tripled.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #118)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:19 PM

122. Makes Sense

 

Bush was oil man. Thanks for the info, gotta be connection to what I just learned, that Susan Rice and John Kerry are now big investors in Tar Sands and that way in Keystone pipe and what not. Who else?!?!?! There's a more than whiff of a big story here, you got more info? Or can you do investigative reporting to shed more light on how oil industry bought Dems? Those corrupt motherfuckers (literally) need to be publicly exposed.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:18 AM

74. I wish you'd post that. I was going to but...

you will get more views if you post it. I was so disgusted by it and the fact that it's not getting widespread attention I didn't think I could post without comments that would get me thrown off here...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:23 PM

24. and Germany is laughing at us....

WTF. Why can't we just build a damn tax-payer owned, GOVT. OPERATED clean energy company, put a branch office in every damn state, start making solar panels at cost (i.e., not for profit) and start calling home and business owners and asking if they want them stuck on their damn roofs for FREE?

How hard IS this?

And FUCK the incomming argument from the other side about how "thats a job for For-Profit Private Markets", if it were, they would have DAMN-WELL DONE IT ALREADY.

The Public Option isn't JUST applicable to HealthCare Delivery...and if the 'Baggers and Paulbots had ANY damn sense of the executables of their own ideas, they would have HAMMERED Congress not ONLY to let the banks go under, but seen to it beforehand that the Public Sector had been built up to such extent that the Big Banks could be ALLOWED to fail, and NOT drag the rest of the economy down with them when they fell. You want a reversal of Too Big To Fail? Make sure the Public Economy is adequatley supported ON IT'S OWN so the NEXT time wall st. does this ('cause they WILL do it again) you can just say, "Fuck you, we dont HAVE to help you, and the Randian Philosophy we all live by is that you shouldn't even be ASKING us for assistance; WE are FINE. We SAW to that already, by making sure we didn't NEED you to survive."

OMG I'm making Republican arguments for increasing the usefulness of the Public Sector, on behalf of the Public Good...(is that allowed here lol)...which begs the question..if WE can figure out their arguments FOR them, how is it that they CAN'T...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:27 PM

26. All aboard the fast train to extinction. nt

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:29 PM

27. Elections are costly

paybacks have begun.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:30 PM

28. Disgusting.

I only supported Obama because the other choice was so horrendous. I don't expect much from the next 4 years, unfortunately.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:31 PM

29. Holy shit. Speechless. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:01 PM

37. Next: Obama approves the Canadian tar sands pipeline

 

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Response to byeya (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:05 PM

39. Yup. You know that's coming.

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:15 PM

40. Not a big deal...the Gulf has completely recovered...they said so in a

BP ad.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:33 PM

46. Whoooeeeeeeeeeee, we're all going to die

...is this what some rich SOB oil baron calls his "infrastructure"? Let me see... "deep water oil wells surrounding our country. 'Terrorist' kamikaze pilots take aim at each and every well around us on some date, like any 9/11. NORAD says stand down, but a few brave pilots defy orders and take a few of them out before the terrorist hits his target. Terrorist crashes into the water.".... someone finish this scenario. I'm sick to my stomach...
I'm new. I don't know how to link youtube clips... Someone run over and get "The END" by the Doors.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:39 PM

47. So the oil companies destroyed the gulf and rather than punishing them severely were rewarding them?

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Response to Initech (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:47 PM

50. Yes. IOW, business as usual in the Corporate States of America. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:50 PM

52. Wilkommen to the new corporate oligarchy

I for one welcome our new Council of CEO's (the Senate)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:55 PM

53. But, but Alabama has nothing but white sandy beaches and fishing's rebounded along the Gulf.

Didn't you see the TV ads?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:41 PM

58. And here I thought I would not wake up to atrocities. Well I really didn't go to sleep.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:38 PM

61. ugh. the pic of the wave is gnarly.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:45 PM

62. No it hasn't.

Selling of oil leases don't mean that other functions regulating oil drilling, energy efficiency and energy use aren't enforced. The federal government encompasses more than one function.

BTW. Why do you post a months old photo to raise hackles? Try posting a wave photo from the Gulf taken today.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #62)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:38 AM

70. How about photos

Of all the dead dolphins or reports of the increased death rate of their young. Perhaps interviews with oyster farmers, or maybe small businesses that lost everything. The photo posted is entirely appropriate imo. Peace, Mojo

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:54 PM

65. So glad I voted for a Democrat.

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:08 AM

69. Can't wait to see this added to The List. nt

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #117)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:46 AM

119. Selling off the Gulf of Mexico offsets the Lilly Ledbetter Act just a lil bit.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:33 AM

71. Remember how the 2nd term Obama was going to unleash the deep-seated liberal?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:18 AM

75. Fully expected this,

 

After all, those corporate masters have to be paid back. And if there were people out there operating under the misconception that Obama would be more liberal in his second term, this should be an early wake up call that no, he won't.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:04 AM

80. I assume everyone complaining about this only ever travels by bike or on foot.

I support President Obama's policy on this issue.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #80)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:53 PM

98. Or give up cheap food.

Let's just ban all drilling, and the use of refined petroleum products in this nation, today.

In six months, there would be massive starvation.

And that is not a guess, that would be a dead certainty.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:18 AM

82. What could possibly go wrong?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:24 AM

83. I'd be against it, but I haven't noticed anyone giving up their cars

...and the only reason we keep having to drill more oil is that people keep using so much, primarily driving cars. Simple cause and effect. There's many reasons to be against drilling for more oil, but its easy to demonize the providers, and ignore that we are, as a people, all users, who have largely not lifted a finger toward change.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:25 AM

84. It doesn't matter what the president does

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:37 PM - Edit history (1)

DU taught me that.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #84)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:03 AM

114. Yup!!!!11!!! He has a BLUE suit!

And we are on the BLUE TEAM!

woot! woot!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:34 AM

86. Because when it is "non-speculative outrage", it is too late. nt

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #86)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:38 AM

87. +whole kit and caboodle n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:05 PM

90. There is a way to cut the use of oil

This country needs to make the growing of hemp legal
Hemp can be used to make biodegradable plastic
Just think how much this alone would cut the use of oil and the price of oil would go down

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:02 PM

92. Whats the problem? Oil and gas are bridge fuels to the green energy future.

I figured I might as well be first to catapult the propaganda...

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Response to Agony (Reply #92)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:46 PM

94. Good Point....that's exactly what the Propagandists will paint this as..

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Response to KoKo (Reply #94)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:02 PM

100. Plus! We need more atmospheric CO2 cuz it makes the plants grow bigger better!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:47 PM

95. unbelievable!

 

so infuriating.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:56 PM

99. What pisses me off the most is that the companies then sell the oil to other countries.

They aren't required to sell it here. They make massive profits of our resources. They then use parts of those profits to purchase our politicians so the cycle can continue.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:21 AM

104. Don't blame me, I voted for Kucinich.

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Response to flvegan (Reply #104)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:36 AM

108. And they made sure

 

you can't do that any more.

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Response to tama (Reply #108)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:40 AM

109. So far, yes they did.

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Response to flvegan (Reply #109)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:52 AM

111. Just remember

 

manipulating Kucinich out of Congress speaks of their weakness, how afraid they are of those who speak the truth to power, not of their strength.

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Response to tama (Reply #111)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:01 AM

113. My sigline is old here.

And almost legend. I know.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:54 AM

120. Spare Me The Outrage, OK?


The Gulf of Mexico has been one gigantic oil and gas reservoir for the U.S. for generations. OCS sales have been going on for years and years, and the coastal scenery of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama has been speckled with vast numbers of production rigs for as long as I can remember---and this fat, dumb and happy country has been glad to live off the cheap fuel, just as long as the "pretty" coastal areas of the nation weren't impacted. Alternate fuels are generations away from attaining up-and-running status---Obama can't waive a magic wand and make it otherwise. So spare me the whining, particularly those of you who regularly use fossil fuels in your vehicles or homes. Work towards changing the energy situation, but understand that it will take a long time to accomplish something worthwhile.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #120)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:12 PM

121. "Obama can't waive a magic wand"

That fills my Blue Dog Bingo card. Huzzah!

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