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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:53 PM

I like President Obama and I support him 100%

There's nothing that anyone here can say that will change my mind. We are going to do great things over the next 4 years. We are going to roll over "conservatives" and undo the terrible damage that they have inflicted on us. When it is all said and done President Obama will be widely regarded as one of our best presidents, ever, having gotten us out of 2 miserable wars, having saved the economy from a Great Republican Depression II, having reversed the divestiture of the middle class and the trend toward concentration of wealth, having advanced the effort to provide everyone with health care, and having done various other things that will get us going back again in the right direction.

Anyone who doesn't agree with me on this can go pound sand up their butt.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:14 PM

1. We'll see about the "gotten us out of 2 miserable wars."

We're out of one so far, I hope he gets us out of the second, but it is not looking good.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:58 PM

105. He will...

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Response to ELI BOY 1950 (Reply #105)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:03 PM

139. Oh, well, good. If you say so,

it must be true.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:17 PM

2. I adore Obama and I've helped to get him elected twice however...

I have no problem disagreeing with him when he is wrong.

That has always been the cornerstone of our party - that we are allowed to disagree unlike the GOP where you have to vote with the party or be ostracized.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:38 PM

12. Same here

I admit, I put him up on a pedestal sometimes. But we need to hold his feet to the fire...he said so himself.

I just don't like it when "holding his feet to the fire" turns into personal attacks, as often happens on these forums.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:40 PM

14. What do you think I am really saying here?

Take a look at exactly who is getting irritated.

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Response to Cary (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:01 PM

47. I think that's what you meant to say

But the way you said it came across as if you were saying that we should support him no matter what. I knew what you were saying, but maybe reword your post to clarify?

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:12 PM

52. When it comes to things involving Congress

I don't see us having a chance to hold his feet to the fire. We could if Congress were more liberal than he is, but so far, it just is not. We have to go after Congress more than the President with the present-day situation and the 113th Congress. And aim for a Dem Congress for 2014. When the 2014 election comes up, I'm going to be super-suspicious of those who spend more of their time criticizing the President than the Republicans, for that reason. It might have made sense for the 111th Congress, which was Democratic (though still to the right of the President), but in the present situation, it won't.

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Response to treestar (Reply #52)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:25 PM

71. The Constitution gives the legislative power to Congress

All the President can do is veto and try to persuade.

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Response to treestar (Reply #52)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:58 PM

84. I agree. We have far more leverage over Congress

As they are the ones who have to run for re-election and need our support to raise money and volunteer on the ground.

We don't really have that leverage over the president anymore, since he can't run again. But I am encouraged so far that he seems to be handling this well and does not seem inclined to cave. He will probably makes some compromises but he has the upper hand in these negotiations.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:19 PM

3. I agree he will go down as one of the greats. But he is now at a crossroads that can

actually elevate him to "Greatest" status. And that all comes down to the fiscal cliff. IMHO, absolutely NO Democrat should take part in weakening Social Security or Medicare. Let the GOP fall on that sword. THIS is our legacy.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:20 PM

4. what-ever! (in best valley girl voice)

 

People are free to disagree with you, bub. That is what a discussion forum is all about.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:23 PM

5. Did you like the part where he escalated a lost war?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:27 PM

6. Does it bother you that I like President Obama and that I support him 100%

Please tell me that this bothers you.

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Response to Cary (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:34 PM

10. Only in that you support all of his decisions..even the ones not yet made.

I generally find it disturbing that anyone refuses to think for themselves.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:38 PM

13. The fact that I support President Obama 100% or otherwise

doesn't mean I'm not thinking for myself.

I never said I support all of his decisions, even the ones not yet made. Our system is a representative democracy. He has my confidence.

You don't have to like that. It's okay with me.

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Response to Cary (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:42 PM

15. So, 100% isn't really 100%. Maybe, 87%? 76%? 19%?

Will you be pounding your own sand?

It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold their public servants accountable. Even Obama. Even when it angers the "moderates".

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:47 PM

17. Is it bothering you?

Please tell me it is. I want it to bother you.

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Response to Cary (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:52 PM

20. No. Does it bother you that others don't support Obama "100%"?

Or, to whatever percent you choose to call 100%.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:54 PM

21. Why don't you just tell me whether it bothers me?

You don't have any problem telling me what I believe or what I should believe. So why ask?

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Response to Cary (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:55 PM

24. I believe that telling people to pound sand because they disagree with you is rude.

Not to mention childish.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:01 PM

27. Nah.

That's not not rude and childish.

Mercilessly mocking people who take themselves way too seriously--now that's childish.

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Response to Cary (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:38 PM

95. Are you saying you take yourself way too seriously?

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Response to morningfog (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:52 PM

102. We have already established that you fall for impossible Photo Shopped images

So why should I take you seriously?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:23 PM

38. When I see that response, I have to ask ... did you vote for Obama in 2008?

I ask because as a candidate in 2008 he said he'd escalate the war in Afghanistan.

So if you voted for him, you knew he'd do that. And it must not have been a big enough concern to prevent you from voting for him.

For me, I thought it was the right thing to do. Bush started that war, and then neglected it so he could invade Iraq. I believed that Obama was right to try and refocus on Afghanistan.

And now that OBL is dead, its about time to start to end it. Which is the plan.

I recall so many on DU claiming that Obama was never going to get out of Iraq. They did so right up until it ended. Then they moved on to other outrages.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:30 PM

40. JoePhilly, I think I may have voted for 2 Republicans in my life

The first was a Senator here whom I knew personally, the one before President Obama was our Senator. I liked him and there was no way I could vote for Carol Mosely Braun.

The second was a judge whom I really like.

There may have been one or two more, I don't remember, but generally I vote straight Democratic.

As for President Obama I definitely voted for him in 2008. I too supported his idea of the surge in Afghanistan. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

I don't know President Obama personally but I have good friends who are Illinois Senators and they know him well. I also know people who were in his law school class. This is an incredibly talented, brilliant man. You don't get to be editor of the Harvard Law Review if you're not brilliant. I didn't go to Harvard but I know quite a few people who did, and I can tell you that don't even get into Harvard Law School if you're not brilliant.

I have good reason to admire this man and to be proud to support him.

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Response to Cary (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:04 PM

48. Umm, thanks ... but also notice that I was not asking you that question.

I was asking that question of some one who was responding to you and questioning YOUR support of Obama, specifically over the escalation of the Afghanistan war.

You might want to (a) back your support level for Obama down to say 95% (no one is perfect), and (b) try to not pick unnecessary fights with those who generally agree with your support for Obama.

Make sense?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:08 PM

51. Actually I noticed that.

But I liked my post and actually invested some time into it, so I let it go. I didn't think I was fighting with you.

My apologies if I did.

Peace.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:09 PM

65. No. And, that's the reason why I didn't vote for him.

Up until he announced that he would escalate that lost war, I would've voted for him even though it would do some damage my nose. But, escalating it was the deal breaker for me.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #65)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:12 PM

66. So will you be the one to start a Progressive Prez 2016 group here on DU?

I mean, you did not vote for Obama in 2008, I'm guessing you did not vote for him in 2012.

So what is your plan going forward?

Spend another 4 years complaining on DU?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #66)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:18 PM

67. I have a lot of plans...most of them not involving politics.

DU is a mild diversion in which I try to hold public servants accountable. Even Democrats and presidents. I think that there a group of progressives already here who would prefer a progressive as president.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #67)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:23 PM

70. You try to hold public servants accountable by posting on DU?



As for those other progressives you mention ... have you noticed they, like you, have yet to create a group like the one I suggest?

again ...

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #70)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:27 PM

72. Oh, they have their group

And it's a mope fest like you would not believe.

Not here, of course.

And if you won't mope along with them, you're banned.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #70)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:32 PM

75. Why not? I also, vote against them when they screw up.

What do you do? Applaud?

Maybe we just aren't joiners when it comes to "groups".

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #75)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:36 PM

79. "We?"

You can speak for this group?

I think your problem, if I can speak to you as this group, is not that you're not joiners. You're not practical and if you're not practical then what are you doing? What are you accomplishing?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:43 PM

98. How was that war lost at that time?

that is part of your statement, so you must back it up as true.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:23 PM

120. He is going to go down in history as one of the most transformative presidents

He's the greatest president of my lifetime and I'm completely loyal. I don't think people can fathom how much he's advanced gay rights.

Politics is a brutal business and people need to realize that.

And perpetual whining isn't holding the prsudent's feet to the fire. It's just whining.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:27 PM

7. No one should be supported 100%.

You owe it to those you admire and your friends to tell them when you think they are wrong.

Their enemies aren't going to do that.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:27 PM

8. What's your point?

You post in a discussion forum that there is not point in discussing any issues with you.

Apparently you don't even want to discuss your predictions.

So what's your point?

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:35 PM

11. Art is in the eye of the beholder zipplewrath.

Your post shows me that you're on to something. So you tell me. What's my point?

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Response to Cary (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:44 PM

16. Artful brownnosing of the boss?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:49 PM

18. How is that supposed to work?

Do you imagine that I get paid for liking President Obama?

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Response to Cary (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:54 PM

22. I have no idea. But, brown nosing is done for many reasons.

Kinda like going to church to get to heaven.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:56 PM

25. I see.

So I like President Obama because that's going to get me to heaven.

Thank you for telling me that. It almost makes sense.

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Response to Cary (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:59 PM

26. And, you support him 100% (sort of) because..?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:01 PM

28. You already told me why.

You said it. It must be true.

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Response to Cary (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:05 PM

31. So this OP is art?

And your pleading with people to say that the post bothers them is not a pathetic ploy for attention but some kind of artistic statement?

Fantastic. Congratulations. You win the internets.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:16 PM

34. I knew that would catch some fish too.

Thanks.

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Response to Cary (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:01 PM

62. Oh yes you are just a clever little fisherman...

You got me hook line and sinker with your little bit of trolling. Luckily I'm not in the Gulf Of Mexico or you'd have to throw me back, thanks to your hero.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #62)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:04 PM

64. How is saying that I like President Obama, here at DU, trolling?

Explain that to me. I really don't understand how that can be.

Yes, if I said it at FreeRepublic it would be trolling. But here? At DU?

Please explain how that can possibly be.

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Response to Cary (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:20 PM

68. It's not the OP but the subsequent posts

begging people to tell you your post bothers them. "Does it bother you?" "Please tell me it bothers you" "Does it bother you?" "Please tell me it bothers you" "Does it bother you?" "Please tell me it bothers you"..

That makes this thread beyond trollish. It makes you look like a fool who is wasting time trying to get a rise out of people.
This board used to be a place for intelligent discussion and debate of the facts. I see nothing in your post that has to do with anything but cheerleading.

No problem though, continue on, your post neither bothered me nor made me feel good, it disseminated no facts nor information, and didn't say anything that hasn't been said 1000 times in the last 2 months. So I see no reason for you to stop

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #68)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:22 PM

69. The fact that you don't see things in my post doesn't mean they're not there

They way you took the bait says it all.

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Response to Cary (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:30 PM

73. Yeah get it.. You are an artist.

And you suckered me in. Congratulations. You are a hero to all.

Now pardon me I am having a discussion with a person who actually has an opinion on something. Good day sir.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:31 PM

74. Don't go away mad.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:32 PM

76. Or do go away mad.

Doesn't really matter to me.

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Response to Cary (Reply #76)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:37 PM

93. Bwhahahahahahahahaha...

It takes more than some kid using mommy's internet connection and pretending to be an "artist" to get my goat.

Again, good day to you.. and good luck with your pointless endeavor.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #93)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:48 PM

100. Laughing is good for you.

It's much better than skulking. I am happy to see your progress.

Glad I could be of service.

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Response to Cary (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:39 PM

96. Take the bait, eh?

Like when one is trolling?

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Response to morningfog (Reply #96)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:41 PM

97. Are you calling me a troll?

That's against the rules, calling people trolls. Isn't it?

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Response to Cary (Reply #97)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:02 PM

138. Not at all. Wondering what you meant by people taking the bait.

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Response to Cary (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:12 PM

86. If you don't know

God knows I won't know. I can't think for you.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #86)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:14 PM

87. When you interpret art you are not thinking for the artist

I ask you for your thoughts. What do you think, zipplerath?

What do you think?

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Response to Cary (Reply #87)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:17 PM

88. About what?

Surely your don't expect and entire dissertation on the Obama presidency as a RESPONSE to a posting that declared they were uninterested in a discussion.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #88)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:22 PM

89. It was your question.

Why are you evading it?

There's no need to be afraid zipplewrath.

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Response to Cary (Reply #89)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:47 AM

145. My question was

What's your point.

You're STILL avoiding that question.

Strangely it has become evident that you are doing a form of trolling. Of course it is a form that is hard to "report" here as abuse. But it is trolling none the less.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #145)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:00 AM

147. You're just jealous

And jealous you should be.

As I said, there is plenty of room for you here at plenty. When you have had enough scarcity just come on over. I'll save a burrito for you.

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Response to Cary (Reply #147)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:22 AM

148. So you don't have an answer

The original question still stands, although I suspect the answer is "nuttin'", which is why you have avoided it.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #148)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:53 AM

150. There, you have your answer...

You suspect the answer is "nuttin." There you go.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:34 PM

9. Hallelujah Praise Obama You're Saved !! n/t

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:51 PM

19. Trusting any politician 100% is foolish and unwise.

 

But then again, we do live in America where you are free to be foolish and unwise.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:55 PM

23. 100% is an awful lot...

I think no politician deserves that kind of support...shows you really don't understand politicians.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:03 PM

29. Ah, but you know better.

Can I be you?

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Response to Cary (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:16 PM

33. What is the point of...

answers like this one? Seriously? Why even start a thread if you are only going to insult people?

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:20 PM

36. AgingAmerican, there is a point to this

Some people understand it. Some people don't.

That's how life works. Seriously.

I'm not insulting people. I'm mocking them.

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Response to Cary (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:51 PM

45. Mocking = bullying

We expect behavior like that from Republicans, not Obama supporters.

Have a nice day.



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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:05 PM

49. In some instances

Not this one.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:05 PM

30. well, looks like you got the fight you were looking for

 

way to be very confrontational and all in-your-face with your OP.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:21 PM

37. Actually I'm not looking for it.

It's there and it finds me. I may as well go with the flow.

Am I hurting anyone?

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:07 PM

32. Puppies are cute! n/t

 

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:20 PM

35. He's alright

 

I'm not doing any back flips yet.

Medicare
Social Security and how the affordable care act work out will tell the tale.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:24 PM

39. He's OK But He's No Progressive

There are some things that trouble me a great bit. One big one is the fact that there has been no massive perp walk of Wall Street execs. Nobody can blame congress for that, it's all on Obama and Holder. It's mystifying. Selling crappy investment wrapped in better ones to people while shorting them at the same time is fraud 101.

All this is the reason why so many pensions went bust. But far from being charged, a good number of the high level white collared thieves got 500 million or so dollar payouts. However Obama/Holder have done almost nothing about it - and if I can see it plain as day they sure can too.

There is one main reason they haven't gone after them, and it's the reason our political system is broke - it's not so good in too many ways vs truly awful party wise now. Nice choice. We need desperately to get money out of politics, to go to public funding of elections to end the lobbying/bribery game that's played out over and over.

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Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:35 PM

41. He's not an ideologue.

The reason they haven't gone after the banksters is that we needed them. We were looking into the abyss colsholibgal. We really were. When you want to fix something, whom do you look to? Do you look to people who have no experience and no clue?

No you don't.

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Response to Cary (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:35 PM

92. You don't look to the people who caused the debacle.

Seem there's a whole helluva lot between them and "people who have no experience and no clue." You know, Krugman, Baker, Stiglitz, Kuttner, et al. Surely you've heard of at least one of them.

And don't flatter yourself -- you (or any stranger on teh internets) don't hold any sway over my emotions. Bothered? Not in the least.

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #92)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:46 PM

99. There's plenty of precedent for what I suggested.

Whom did FDR appoint as the first head of the Securities and Exchange Commission? I'll give you a clue: Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.

Do you know anything about Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.?

I'll flatter myself whenever I want to flatter myself. You have no say in the matter.

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Response to Cary (Reply #99)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:54 PM

103. Only our crooks aren't being caught.

At least those that matter, anyway.

Try again.

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #103)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:00 PM

108. You don't understand.

Prosecutors have discretion. Someone made the decision not to go after the crooks. That's within their discretion.

It is pure speculation on my part, of course, but given the state of the economy at the time it seems pretty obvious that a decision was made to not come down too hard on these institutions. I don't know if you realize how serious this was. AIG, in particular, holds some enormous number of annuities, life insurance policies, pension funds, ... I mean if we crashed AIG it could cause WWIII.

We're talking trillions of dollars here.

If I were privy to all of the information here I might be inclined to second guess but I am not privy to it and neither are you.

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #92)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:04 PM

112. They should have been jailed

We should be following the lead of Iceland. They did not bail out the bankers, they jailed them, along with the politicians that conspired in the fraud. Iceland gave relief to homeowners, cancelling a large part of their fiat bank debt. The result was that after their economy shrank in 2009 by 6.7%, it proceeded to rebound in 2010 by 2.9% and in 2011 by 2.4%, outpacing the gains of the European Union and other developed countries. Fitch Ratings concluded:
“The unorthodox crisis policy response in Iceland has succeeded.”

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #112)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:18 PM

118. It's not your decision.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but it's not my decision to make either.

I don't require my representatives to agree with me. I want them to have a reasonably objective argument. It's when they're batshit crazy that I have a problem and it's the Republicans who are batshit crazy.

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Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:38 PM

43. 'However Obama/Holder have done almost nothing about it '

 

why would he?

Obama is in the club.

He let Geithner bailout his buddies

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:37 PM

42. Really?

You win the Lame Post of the Day award.

Congrats, big guy.


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Response to 99Forever (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:06 PM

50. How's that sand working out for you?

Big guy.

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Response to Cary (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:41 PM

133. That really all you've got kid?

From lame to sad. Keep it up and you'll make pathetic yet.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #133)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:54 AM

146. That's a lie.

I reached pathetic a long, long time ago.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:46 PM

44. Only 100%?

If you don't support Obama at least 150% then you ain't a *real* Obama supporter.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:01 PM

61. How would you know what a *real* Obama supporter is?

Sucking fumes isn't a good idea.

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Response to Cary (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:29 PM

90. Can't be helped

I ride a bike in traffic, cars give off fumes, no way to avoid them when you're pedaling hard.

Breathing is fundamental.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #90)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:34 PM

91. Ah, I see.

I avoid traffic, myself. Earlier this year I semi-retired my old road bike, Columbus steel frame, and bought a Trek 7.7 FX. I avoid the traffic because I don't like cars whizzing past my elbows.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:00 PM

46. Was considering a few days ago posting about the recent

rash of weird-ass and low-quality posts on DU, but then changed my mind.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:13 PM

53. Don't get me wrong, but ask him about BP!

He has let them have their way with us on the Gulf Coast. They have bought off the Judge's hand picked Steering Committee and now he is shoving a class settlement down our throats that BP drafted. The Judge refused to allow an attorney to speak at the Fairness Hearing that has objected to the deal and opted over 10,000 cases out. The primary objection is that most Claimants must waive their right to trial without know what their offer will be, if they are even offered anything! Obama stood up a and blessed the 20 billion dollar fund that never existed. I know there are things politicians must do to stay in office, but they should not have to sell out a million people to do it!

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:14 PM

54. He will go down as one of the worst Presidents in history because his term in office was the last

window to make a major change in direction to mitigate climate change and avert global catastrophe.

But he squandered the opportunity because he did not have the moral clarity to challenge the power of oil companies and big banks.

A huge disappointment.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:14 PM

55. I like him too. I also hate vanity threads

and drone warfare and the war on pot and for-profit health care and destruction of the public schools and destruction of unions and assault on teachers.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #55)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:25 PM

57. Vanity threads?

I'm having some fun here. That's all.

You really have a problem with that?

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:18 PM

56. Obama is human. He makes mistakes like everyone else.

Sometimes he acts out of fear like everyone else.

But I support him because I know he is trying really hard to do the right thing and because he is a loving human being.

I do not worship Obama. I don't know yet whether he is the best president ever. He has four more years to prove it to me. So far he has done well.

He has a lot more to do and a course to change in terms of human rights, respecting the privacy of individuals, changing our trade balance, creating jobs and protecting our social safety net. Lots more. He has four more years to do it.

I worked hard to get Obama re-elected (as did many DUers), so I feel I have right to state my mind. I'm not just a complainer, but I want to see things done better.

Obama needs to cut all ties to anyone from Goldman Sachs and other big Wall Street brokerages. His contacts with them create the odor of corruption in his administration because they wreak of corruption.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:28 PM

58. He's not going to be the best president ever

In my mind that has to be Lincoln. I don't think he's going to beat out Washington or FDR either. That's not in the cards.

You can support him 100% and still want to see things done better. These aren't mutually exclusive. Perfection should not be the enemy of the good, or something like that.

You and I aren't really saying anything different here.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:31 PM

59. Damn! That's a pretty ballzy thing to say on a site like this!

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Response to meegbear (Reply #59)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:01 PM

63. Ironically, yes it is.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:54 PM

60. TOTALLY AGREE.

I truly love that man. Yes, I said LOVE. I think he is an absolutely extraordinary, brilliant person and we are damned lucky that he is our President. I feel absolutely certain that he will be rememebred as one of the greatest presidents of all time. Certainly the best in my lifetime and I was born when Kennedy was in office.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:33 PM

77. I like him too.....BUT.

His views on the Keystone Pipeline and medical marijuana are very troubling to me. I cannot understand why he holds those views, and I want him to alter them.

I do think he is a good, honorable person, a great husband and father.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:36 PM

78. Yeah, he's amazing!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021896005

commencing sand pounding in 3,2,

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:39 PM

80. you should never support a politican 100%

never

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Response to Skittles (Reply #80)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:42 PM

81. But I do.

Now what?

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Response to Cary (Reply #81)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:43 PM

82. pull your head out

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Response to Skittles (Reply #82)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:11 PM

85. What is that supposed to mean? n/t

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Response to Cary (Reply #85)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:37 PM

94. I can't speak for the poster, but I take it to mean if you

support a politician 100% you must have you head buried deep somewhere. Perhaps in the same place you suggested all those who have even a modicum of sense to not support one 100% pound sand.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #94)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:49 PM

101. I have seen pictures of that but I think they're Photo Shopped.

I mean I don't think that's physically possible. You're being ridiculous.

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Response to Cary (Reply #85)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:25 PM

136. Skittles is totally going to kick your ass.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:48 PM

83. Drones killing innocents & continued War on medical marijuana

These are two areas I disagree with Obama about...and I worked hard both elections for his win because I believe we stand a chance of changing his mind on these two horrible policies.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:58 PM

104. Trusting anyone, politician or otherwise, 100% is foolish and unwise. & Telling people to

"pound sand up their (sic) butt" is a great way to demonstrate your 100% support of PO. ***NOT*** The point being, if you support PO 100% you don't do him damage by telling others to pound sand up his/her butt. Since you did do that harm to PO by insulting others, it's quite safe to say that you do not support him 100%, because it's obvious that ridicule and the power of dealing pain is more important to you than PO is.

You need to ask yourself what your honest priorities are.

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Response to patrice (Reply #104)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:02 PM

109. Rut ho...

You really told me!

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Response to Cary (Reply #109)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:07 PM

113. Ridicule, the first refuge of the inadequate. nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #113)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:12 PM

116. Laugh and the whole world laughs with you...

cry and you cry alone.

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Response to Cary (Reply #116)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:16 PM

117. All of which is beside the point that it is stupid to tell people you don't even know to

pound sand up their butts. You demonstrate intrinsic disrespect for their values and issues and, btw, respect for others is part of what SOME of us were voting for in a President earlier this month.

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Response to patrice (Reply #117)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:21 PM

119. Lighten up patrice

It's an internet board. Keep that in perspective, will ya?

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Response to Cary (Reply #119)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:24 PM

121. What you said would have been fine without the last sentence. Pardon me if I object to

those who discount the very real and just concerns of the less-than-in crowd.

...............................

Lightening up, now.

Have a nice evening.

p

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Response to patrice (Reply #121)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:50 PM

123. Confused....

What does telling people who don't like my opinion to go pound sand have to do with the less than in crowd?

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:59 PM

106. Spoken like the most uncritical Republican re Bush.

 

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:59 PM

107. Stop! Stop! My head is spinning!

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:03 PM

110. Do you have a crayon drawing you'd like to share

 

with DU that shows how much you like him?

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Response to rudycantfail (Reply #110)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:08 PM

114. Here ya go. Enjoy.

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Response to Cary (Reply #114)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:07 PM

127. I give that a gold star!

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #127)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:16 PM

128. You want to see something really funny

Google the conservative morons who watch us and find what they say about "the Cary primitive."

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:04 PM

111. LOL

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #111)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:10 PM

115. Amazing. Isn't it?

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Response to Cary (Reply #115)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:59 PM

124. This is like class A....

...flamebait

Well done!

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #124)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:04 PM

125. Artists are often misunderstood.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:49 PM

122. In the military

 

I hear SO many people talk bad about the President its disgusting. And NOTHING is ever done to them! LOL and its me alot of the time lulz. They cant seem to give me an Article 88 pleaze.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:07 PM

126. This reminds me of how great things were when.....

 

I had my head burried in the sand! WAKE THE HELL UP!

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:18 PM

129. Gosh!

 

What a bold, risky post here! I'm in awe!

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:22 PM

130. LOL 100% is the new 80% eom

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:33 PM

131. Oh brother....

"Having reversed the divestiture of the middle class"... so he has brought back all the jobs lost to China, India, Mexico, Indonesia to name just a few? The minimum wage is now $20.00 an hour? Or perhaps just $15.51 an hour like Australia? Placed a cap on executive compensation? Why not research the TPP before making such bold claims?

He didn't do anything to get us out of Iraq....the date had already been negotiated by the Bush administration. In fact our dear leader tried to extend our stay there.

Susan Rice, the purported front runner for Sec't of State holds about $7 million in Canadian old field stocks...including the company pushing the Keystone Pipeline. As SOS she will make the final decision about that pipeline.

And if he agrees to raise the ages for Social Security and Medicare will you say "well we needed to do that to save the programs?"

You go ahead and support him 100%.... It matters not a jot whether you do or don't.

And if you don't agree with me on this... go pound sand up your butt.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #131)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:17 PM

135. It matters a jot

Look at how agitated you get over my positive comments.

That's a jot bud. Not much more, but a jot nonetheless.

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Response to Cary (Reply #135)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:56 PM

137. Not even a jot....

Highly entertained by your silliness, but not at all upset.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:39 PM

132. Your Bedside Manner Is Lacking

And if we need to explain that to you, you wouldn't understand.

-P

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #132)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:56 PM

134. I am not a doctor

People pounding sand, not my patients.

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Response to Cary (Reply #134)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:15 PM

140. C'mon - You Can't Be This Shallow. N/t

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #140)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:18 PM

141. Why not?

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:19 PM

142. We are going to do great things these four years!

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:29 PM

143. I sure hope you are only twelve years old

For myself, I support policies, not people. That's why I am not ashamed of supporting John Edwards, because no matter what flaws were in his character, there was still truth in his two Americas speeches and in his focus on the poor.

If Obama proposes policies that help the bottom 60%, then I support him. If, like a good DLCer he proposes policies that help the top 20% and the corporate world, then I oppose him.

If he tells the truth, then I support him. If he tells lies, then I oppose him.

The fact is that Obama is not going to do anything to slow the "trend toward concentration of wealth" if he keeps proposing tax cuts that give far more to the top 20% than they do to the bottom 40%. Obama plans to keep the Bush tax cuts for all income under $250,000. That will give $163 billion in tax breaks to the top 20%, including $40 billion to the top 1% and only $14 billion in tax breaks to the bottom 20%. If he decreases inequality by doing that, he will go down in history as one of the greatest magicians of all time.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:51 AM

149. Smarter, dumber, I think the USA is 4 Me

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I'm not sure if I'm an old white guy yet, but I'm definitely getting there. It's totally okay with me. I love the 47%. Do you know who they are? They're my countrymen. And you know what? If I can give them things and that promotes the General Welfare, here you are 47%.

I have a real father and no need whatsoever for a fascist poseur who would like to have a son like me. My father is an old white man and you know what? He's of the same opinions. Are we smart? Are we dumb? I don't know but I do know that we're winners and that the old white guys who "want their country back" are dead enders, purveyors of a dying ideology that didn't work out very well by any measure.

Is it smart to be a purveyor of a dying ideology that didn't work out very well? I would think someone who was so much smarter than I am would be right about something every now and then.

And then there's the hyperbole. "Messiah?" Really? Someone who is so smart ought to be more creative and original even if they're on the outside looking in. Repetitive use of silly epithets isn't impressive, or an indication of any real intelligence.

The USA is 4 me, the real one and not some nostalgic vision of what some fascist imagined it to be in the 1950s. No, the creepy fascist who waxes nostalgic doesn't need the USA. This person needs John Galt's island. This person needs to flee and prove Ayn Rand's third rate science fiction fantasy once and for all. Go. Take your ball and go, like any demoralized pre-adolescent Ayn Rand cultist will do. Show us. Show us how much we need you.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:13 AM

151. this is a very special post

 

i will put it on the refrigerator.

we're all ever so proud of you!!

bless your little heart.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #151)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:42 AM

152. More special than you realize.

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Response to Cary (Reply #152)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:46 PM

154. wow. no one has ever been this clever on the Internetz. ever.

 

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #154)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:46 PM

156. You're just jealous.

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Response to Cary (Reply #156)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:37 PM

158. what's funny is that i picture you sitting there beaming with pride

 

because you were so very clever to pull the wool over the DUmmies they way you did. the most laughable thing is that you probably think you are unique. like shit stirring has never been done before. you internet wizard, you.

so very clever.

what do your internet buddies think about your life victory?

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #158)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:15 PM

159. I'm not sure what you're babbling about but whatever it is,

if you don't like it, don't look at it.

Did I have some fun here? Yeah, I did.

Eat your heart out.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:36 PM

153. I'm policy oriented. Not personality oriented.

Being 100% satisfied with a politician is a result, not a process.

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Response to FredStembottom (Reply #153)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:46 PM

155. As am I.

But I have taken so much grief for not being interested in trashing President Obama--that's what this is really about.

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Response to Cary (Reply #155)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:05 PM

160. I would just quietly urge you to keep....

.... Looking carefully at DU posts. Trashing the president's policies or political actions is not trashing the Pres. himself.

I can't think of a true trashing of the man here at DU. Most even say: I really like the guy, before going on to despise something his administration has done.

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Response to Cary (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:42 PM

157. I like it. Not enough positive posts here.

Though I give him the benefit of the doubt 100% I cannot fully support every decision he's made. Like others have said, politicians should have a higher burden to earn your support and even President Obama shouldn't get all of yours.

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