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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 09:44 PM Dec 2011

GOP Moves to Require Pee Tests and GEDs for Unemployed A new bill threatens to make being jobless

even harder than it already is.

Despite her MBA, Amy Davis was unemployed for over a year. Richard Tsong-Taatarii/ZUMA
It's a difficult time to be unemployed in America. But congressional Republicans seem determined to make it even more difficult.

On Tuesday, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives passed HR 3630, a bill extending President Barack Obama's 2 percent payroll tax cut. But the tax cut, which was set to expire on January 1 and will save the average American family an estimated $1,000 next year, is just about the only candy cane in this holiday stocking. The rest of HR 3630 is bursting at the seams with conservative goodies, including—get this—drastic changes to the unemployment insurance system that could force unemployed Americans to undergo drug tests, require them to get GEDs, and greatly reduce the time they're able to receive benefits.

Under current law, unemployed workers are eligible for up to 99 weeks of federal and state unemployment benefits. States pay for the first 26 weeks of those benefits, and the federal government foots the bill for between 34 and 73 more—the exact number varies from state to state based on each state's unemployment rate. If the Republicans get their way, workers who use up their 26 weeks would only be able to receive benefits through week 59—reducing their benefits by up to 40 weeks. The GOP bill also reduces the monetary value of the benefits it does provide.



Slashing unemployment insurance so dramatically could be disastrous for the economy. Unemployed people have very little money, and are therefore highly likely to spend any money they do have on necessities like food, shelter, and clothing. That's one reason why many economists, including former White House adviser Jared Bernstein, consider unemployment benefits to be one of the most efficient forms of economic stimulus in existence. Mark Zandi, an economic adviser for Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign, has estimated that each dollar spent on extending unemployment benefits generates $1.61 in economic growth. Meanwhile, according to an analysis from the National Employment Law Project (NELP), the Republicans' bill would result in $22 billion in lost economic growth and cost at least 140,000 jobs next year. With unemployment still hovering around 8.6 percent, those numbers are pretty catastrophic.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/unemployed-insurance-ged-drug-tests


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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
2. By the time the GOP gave us one 13-week extension during the 80's I was owed the entire amount
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 09:53 PM
Dec 2011

True story. Got one retroactive check to cover 13 weeks of unemployment.

Better late than never I guess?

Don

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
5. Shows the authoritarians are in control and recipients are worthless peasant serfs getting
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:09 PM
Dec 2011

a handout. It's another form of intimidation and of little value, except to intimidate.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
6. Here's what it accomplishes
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:12 PM
Dec 2011

"Storefront GED-Schools" will crop up all over (to prep people for that GED), which will get money from the govt share of what the recipient should have gotten in benefits, and in the end, they will have lost precious weeks of money/eligibility and will end up with a worthless piece of paper.. people with multiple degrees are unemployed too.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. It gives a big fat contract to the GOP company that does drug testing
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:06 PM
Dec 2011

That is all the drug testing for welfare recipients in Florida accomplished - it let pRick Scott award a contract to one of his cronies. The results came back that drug use among the welfare recipients was significantly LOWER than among the general population.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
9. fair enough, if they piss-test ceos as well. corporate welfare recipients shouldn't be exempt.
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:41 PM
Dec 2011

YEAH! like that'll ever happen!

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. It perpetuates stereotypes and scapegoating
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:02 PM
Dec 2011

It also demeans and dehumanizes people. This is just hateful.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
13. Sounds like an Occupy protest is needed
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:16 PM
Dec 2011

We should all show up outside the offices of the members of Congress who voted for this with a cup and refuse to leave until that member of Congress pees in our cup. If there are any rules that state unemployment recipients need to be supervised to prevent cheating then the member of Congress needs to be supervised as well. If the unemployed need to pee in a cup to receive government benefits then Congress should have to pee in cups to receive benefits.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
14. So, an employed school dropout can pay taxes of various kinds without a GED,
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 07:24 PM
Dec 2011

but not collect any unemployment without one?

Just another scam targeting the least educated, and likely some of the poorest, among us.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
16. I called my rep (Karen Bass in CA's 33rd) about this on Monday and also
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 07:48 PM
Dec 2011

called Boxer at the same time. Yesterday, after I heard it had passed the House, I swallowed my disdain and called Feinstein's office.

Does anyone know where things stand right now? I'm in the extension period right now and California has sent me a couple really weird letters this week about how I've "exhausted" my benis (currently at week 60, I think), but that I may qualify for an extension.

I really would hate to have to hit my retirement accounts prematurely but may have no choice if UI is terminated at week 59.

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