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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:45 AM

Gennifer Flowers: Bill Clinton contacted me as early as 2005 and said can I come over to see you

Big Dog still trying to get booty on the side.Like they say once a dog always a dog http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gennifer-flowers-helped-clinton-household-article-1.1208892

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Reply Gennifer Flowers: Bill Clinton contacted me as early as 2005 and said can I come over to see you (Original post)
bigdarryl Nov 2012 OP
bigtree Nov 2012 #1
lightcameron Nov 2012 #69
slackmaster Nov 2012 #2
unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #3
slackmaster Nov 2012 #14
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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:47 AM

1. desperate

bull

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Response to bigtree (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:50 PM

69. He should have been better at weeding out the bunny-boilers.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:47 AM

2. He may be a man of the people,

 

But he is also a man.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:48 AM

3. Here we go

The sexism starts two posts in.

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Response to unreadierLizard (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:56 AM

14. Please explain why you feel my statement is sexist

 

Men and women are not the same sex. Not only that, it was a quote from a famous movie directed by Stanley Kubrick.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:59 AM

18. It's hard not to

"he may be a man of the people but he is also a man" makes it sound like "oh he's a male men can't control the urge to cheat or hump other women so we can't trust them".

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Response to unreadierLizard (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:06 AM

25. It's a fact that a lot of men can't control it

 

We can trust men to behave like men.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:47 PM

47. Wrong

 

They choose not to control it.

Or do you contend that murderers, rapists, and pedophiles cannot control it.

Either we control our decisions and actions or don't. You can't have it both ways.



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Response to slackmaster (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:48 PM

54. Yeah right. And the women are the victims.

Ooh that terrible man talked me into having sex with him.

It's a two-way street. Stop placing the blame on one side of the equation.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:02 AM

23. In anthropology, we're taught that research says that in every society studied - over 1000 - males

 

are always more sexually aggressive than females.
It's interesting to me that comparing societies, it's a fact that females in Society A(say) are more sexually agressive than males in Society B(say) but always males in the same society are more sexually aggressive than the females.
We should not overlook this fact and those in the field should not stop looking for an exception and should not stop analyzing their methodology and definitions to see if they've made an error, but for now, these seem to be the facts.

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Response to byeya (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:08 AM

28. Fine, then.

Since we're all(according to some on these boards) potential rapists, potential child molesters, child murderers, Republicans, sexists, racists, homophobes and sociopathic, what more do you want?

me go back to cave and hit fire?

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Response to unreadierLizard (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:10 AM

31. Nobody is saying that all men are accountable for the pecadillos of some men

 

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Response to byeya (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:09 AM

29. It's called human behavior, and it's only partly under conscious control and societal restraint

 

It's complex and hard to understand why a lot of men do things that seem insanely stupid for sex. Even highly intelligent, educated, successful men.



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Response to slackmaster (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:07 PM

45. Oh, that totally excuses it!

It was from a MOVIE! Well, it must be all right, then.

Dumb thread, dumber responses.

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Response to unreadierLizard (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:01 AM

21. Like a 747...

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:59 AM

17. And that's just as sexist

Look, I'm a woman and I know the bullshit that women put up with from Men.

But I'm also smart enough to recognize that this can be a 2-way street. Unless she has actually hardcore proof I don't believe a word this woman is saying. IF he really was harassing her why did she wait 7 years to say anything about it?

And let's face it there are hundreds of people who can do Bill Clinton impersonations. For all we know someone got her number and played a joke on her.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:11 AM

34. It's interesting that you would say that. There are some on this forum who base their choice...

 

...of who to believe on gender. Yours must be based on something else, and it's probably not President Clinton's well-established reputation as a skirt chaser.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:25 AM

40. And what has Clinton done in the last 15 years to live up to that reputation

It's like accusing me of being a cheater because I happened to cheat on a 2nd grade spelling test.

Flowers, however, tends to rear her head every couple of years and spews off about Clinton because it's the only way the press will write about her.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:31 AM

42. You seem very determined to defend him from something that really isn't a big deal

 

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:49 AM

4. suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure he did. And *that's* why she came out in 2006 with proof.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:50 AM

5. apparently an aging 'cabaret singer' needs a career boost...

 

gotta get that name back in the press. just like the good ol' days.


btw- nobody knows what 'agreements' a married couple may have regarding their sex lives.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:50 AM

6. as Bing Crosby said in White Christmas "Everybody has a angle" what's this writers?

 

this is obviously another Hate clinton article
obviously wanting to tear Bill down again

why put this crap here? Belongs on a freper sight and is a distraction

Didn't Bill go through enough crap?

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:52 AM

7. That poor woman looks like Victoria Jacksons twin! No wonder she has to make up....

lies to get attention. Some thing never really change...they just get older and needier.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:52 AM

8. It's none of our business.

Slime...yuk. I don't give a damn what he does in his personal life. I'm sure he gets laid but I don't need to know about it. Geez

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:52 AM

9. Has she been trying to do the same transformation

or is using the same plastic surgeon? looks like work about halfway complete





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Response to snooper2 (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:55 AM

12. Ms Flowers looks good for her age in my opinion

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:54 AM

10. Ms.Flowers whiped that thing on big bog and got him crazy over her LOL LOL!!!

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:55 AM

11. So we just assume Bill is guilty?

This woman has been an attention whore since her name first came into spotlight.

My guess is all the royalties she was making from her association to Bill Clinton have dried up so she comes out to the NY Daily News (isn't that the paper owned by Rupert Murdoch?) and we assume she's telling us the truth.

My guess is that some Bill Clinton impersonator probably called her as a joke.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:56 AM

15. Guilty of what? He hasn't been charged with any wrongdoing.

 

There is nothing wrong with wanting to re-connect with an old friend.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:00 AM

20. No but we're already assuming what she is saying is the truth

Flowers hasn't done alot to make me think she's a beacon of truth. SHe's played out her 15 minutes of fame about 20 years ago. That comment was nothing more than her attempts to rehash it.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:13 AM

35. Frankly I don't know or care whether she's telling the truth

 

This story is pure entertainment for me. Completely harmless. The only thing she could possibly hurt is her own reputation.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:45 PM

52. 100% agreed.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:55 AM

13. Hit the showers everyone

I feel the need for a group scrub down. This is dirty. Yuck. I was gunna say good hosing, but that is not what I meant.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:57 AM

16. she has made a lot of allegations that just did not pan out.

Poor thing, shes got that Paul Ryan thingy...lyin.

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Response to Tutonic (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:00 AM

19. Like what didn't pan out the she screwed him

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Response to Tutonic (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:49 PM

74. Really? Come on; the man had an affair with her; let's not be prissy ostriches.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:01 AM

22. The only real story is very likely the last line.

"Flowers, meanwhile, said she's hoping to be back in the public eye with a planned reality show based on the "Real Housewives" franchise."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gennifer-flowers-helped-clinton-household-article-1.1208892#ixzz2DX9EPOsm

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Response to karynnj (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:07 AM

26. And Flowers knows the ONLY way the press would bother with her is if she says 'Clinton'

If she didn't use the magic word the press would continue to ignore her.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:46 PM

73. Ding! Winner! n/t

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:04 AM

24. "... The lounge singer also said she spoke with the then-Democratic presidential candidate in 1992

about how he wanted 'name recognition.' She said she helped him become a 'household name overnight' ..."

Yep, twenty years later, that thar's a right compellin analysis of the 1992 campaign: Flowers helped make Clinton snag a household name!

'... The .. cabaret singer .. claims that the former President called her up in 2005 ... “I said, ‘No you can’t come over here,’” she continued. “He said, ‘I’ll put on a hoodie and I’ll jog up there’ ... ” ...'

Thanks for sharin, Gennifer: it shore do sounds to me like you is makin a desperate grab for attention, but I knows I has sometimes been wrong befores. Still, I cain't see much reason to give a rat's ass about an alleged phone call seven years ago

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:08 AM

27. My money is it was a Clinton impersonator

I mean his voice is very commonly impersonated. Someone probably thought it would be a joke to make the call.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:13 AM

36. That's really quite plausible, but "Some wiseacre Clinton impersonator called me up seven years ago

and offered to jog over disguised in a hoodie to visit" could lack front-page newsworthiness

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:09 AM

30. Yeah, and pigs fly Gennifer, you attention seeking so and so...

Can't use certain words here that would be totally appropriate for her.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:10 AM

32. Oh, good grief. Here we go again. Sorry, Gennifer, but your credibility is non-existent.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:11 AM

33. I don't believe her.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:15 AM

37. Who cares anyway? Really.

He's not president anymore, so it's even less of our business now (not that it ever was).

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:17 AM

38. Is she sure it wasn't Rush Limbaugh calling her?

He does a pretty decent job impersonating Bill Clinton.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:19 AM

39. New York Daily News - muckraker of the worst kind. Why is this posted to DU? nt.

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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:50 PM

75. No; that would be Murdoch's NY Post.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:25 AM

41. I wouldn't believe Ms. Flowers if her tongue came noterized

The last paragraph tells us all we need to know, she is planning a reality show based on the Housewives series. She wrote a book claiming a twelve year affair with not a single date. She provided a doctored tape. She later claimed he was a killer.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:07 PM

43. and the world yawns at the news....

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:59 PM

44. Your concern is noted.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:16 PM

46. He asked to come over to talk.

Has no DUer ever had a conversation with an old flame? Why do so many posters assume his intentions were sexual?

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:00 PM

48. OH PLEASE!!! big dig wanted to get her in the sack again and you know it

if he wanted to talk he could have did that on the phone when he called her why come to her home and talk

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:11 PM

49. My ex-wife and I get together just to talk fairly often.


Albeit, her 16 year old son now lives with me. And we have a joint investment. But even before either of those we got together fairly often for conversation.

I have an aunt who has done the same with her ex. I see none of the reaction in her I would expect to see if they were doing anything more than talking.

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Response to ieoeja (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:50 PM

76. GF is not exactly an EX-WIFE!!

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:43 PM

51. You seem to have accepted her story hook, line, and sinker,

with no critical thinking in between. Why?

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:37 PM

50. attention whore , 2005 was around the time Clinton had his Heart Troubles

it happened in 2004 so he was dealing with recovery around then.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:45 PM

53. She's pimping her new reality show. nt

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Response to JI7 (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:41 PM

66. It's pretty sexist to call her an attention whore

despite the fact that she's spent the last few years working in an (ex) brothel.

source: http://www.stumptownblogger.com/2012/09/gennifer-flowers-before-after.html

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:52 PM

55. I really could care less what Bill Clinton does with his spare time.

I am more offended by the fact that Gennifer Flowers spells her name with a G. As a Jennifer myself, I never understood the "G" used for Jennifer. Did her parents do that to her?

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:53 PM

56. Its none of my business

 

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:58 PM

57. I am just going to go ahead and assume she is lying

What an obvious grab for attention.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:01 PM

58. None o' mah biz.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:02 PM

59. Not my marriage, not my business

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:02 PM

60. I didn't care in 1992, I didn't care in 1998, I wouldn't have cared in 2005 and I don't care now.

nt

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #60)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:39 PM

63. same here nt

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:29 PM

61. This is Flamebait.

The OP reminds me of foxx news.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:40 PM

65. +1

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:37 PM

62. Well, they DO call him the Comeback Kid.

But frankly, I'm not seeing it here.

A dear friend from Arkansas once told me, "Bucky, there's maybe only two women in Arkansas Bill Clinton did not sleep with: his mama and Gennifer Flowers." Somewhere back in his doggin' days, the Bubba must've done something to trigger this woman's obsessive-compulsive disorder. But in all likelihood, whatever it was he did, it didn't involve bumpin uglies.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:40 PM

64. And not a single fuck was given about it.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:49 PM

67. Don't care what he does, he's not an elected official anymore.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:50 PM

68. bwahahahahaaa

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:09 PM

70. Gennifer should just stfu

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:23 PM

71. Trash.

And that's where this thread is going.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:32 PM

72. Shut up Gennifer, no one cares! nt

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:51 PM

77. and why would I believe my daily bs?

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:58 PM

79. I'll never understand women who BEG to be seen in this light. STHU!


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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:59 PM

80. Who fucking cares?

Seriously.

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Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #80)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:24 PM

82. Just Hillary, maybe.

And she's very busy running the world. None of anyone else's business.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:21 PM

81. I do not believe her!

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:34 PM

83. I don't understand the open-mouthed disbelief in this thread.

People need to compartmentalize. Bill Clinton was a master politician and probably the best President of my lifetime. He was and perhaps still is something of a horndog. One has very little to do with the other. JFK was even more of a horndog. And more recently, Anthony Weiner was an accomplished Congressman, and the fact that he liked to tweet his cock does not negate this.

If idle chatter about Clinton's horniness offends anyone, by all means hide this thread. But nobody is taking away from the fact that he was an excellent President.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:35 PM

84. Who really cares?

What goes on within and without the Clintons' marriage is nobody's business but their own.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:40 PM

85. WTF do you post shit like this and why do you care??????????

Get over it.

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