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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:40 AM

 

What's with anti-liberal sentiment?

I've been seeing a lot of it lately and I don't get it. Liberalism is about the protection of civil liberties.

Why would anyone be opposed to protecting civil liberties?

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Reply What's with anti-liberal sentiment? (Original post)
Neon2012 Nov 2012 OP
spanone Nov 2012 #1
IDoMath Nov 2012 #2
relayerbob Nov 2012 #3
LisaLynne Nov 2012 #7
woo me with science Nov 2012 #4
byeya Nov 2012 #5
mercuryblues Nov 2012 #6
RKP5637 Nov 2012 #8
geckosfeet Nov 2012 #9
Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #10
Neon2012 Nov 2012 #11
leftynyc Nov 2012 #12
Neon2012 Nov 2012 #14
Live and Learn Nov 2012 #15
socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #13

Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:41 AM

1. study the republican party.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:41 AM

2. We're not Saaaaaaaafe!!!!

 

Here! Take my civil liberties so I can be saaaaaafe!

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:43 AM

3. Lately?

Liberal has been a dirty word for decades.

"I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal." - Supertramp - The Logical Song - 1979

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:56 AM

7. Thanks for the earworm, Bob.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:46 AM

4. Corporate pockets are deep;

corporate propaganda is thick and ubiquitous.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:46 AM

5. Agree 100% about liberals wanting to protect the Bill of Rights and other civil liberties. What I

 

have against some liberals, and I guess many would call them neoliberals, is their seeming willingness not to stand firm when they have been dealt a winning hand and not to call down the conservatives for living in fantasy land.
Also, liberals, at least in part, are supportive of the war in Afghanistan and the drone killings.

Incrementalism doesn't work against an entrenched and adament opponent, imo.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:54 AM

6. it boils down to this

Liberals tend to support Unions= Unions support living wages; safe working conditions. Which in turn cuts into corporate profit.

Liberals tend to support equal rights for all citizens = blacks and women getting the right to vote and gay marriage. Which in turn creates deomcrats getting elected. how can the republicans feel superior to classes of citizens if everyone has the same rights.

Liberals tend to enjoy separation of church and state. Republicans would be happy with a theocracy.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:56 AM

8. Much as with belonging to the ACLU is supposed to be very evil and un-American to some. Another

WTF I thought as a youth. I've belonged to the ACLU for years, yet some think of me as some un-American misfit because I believe in protecting civil liberties for all.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:58 AM

9. Who gives a rats behind about anti-liberal sentiment. Let them come after me.

We'll,,,, have a talk.


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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:03 AM

10. For years conservatives have been portraying liberals as being lazy, ignorant and immoral.

They have been preaching to their flock that we are unAmerican, unemployed and want the government to give us everything free of charge. They believe that we want to raise their taxes, take away their guns, abort their babies, force them to be ateists, turn them gay and give everything they have worked for to the countless "illegals" that we would allow to flood the country. In short, they have painted us as being E-V-I-L!!!

Unfortunately, those who listen to the RWNJ's would rather sit back and let someone else do their thinking for them, so they believe what they're told to believe. To do otherwise to be to admit that they have been wrong all this time.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:06 AM

11. Let me clarify the question.

 

I appreciate the responses, but what I should have asked was this.

How does one reconcile opposition to civil liberties with strong defense of personal liberty?

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Response to Neon2012 (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:10 AM

12. Since you're being far from clear

How about an example?

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:28 AM

14. An example-

 

"Obama's taking away our freedom. Damned Liberals." - Any Hypothetical Teabagger

How does the Republican Party reconcile defense of personal and corporate liberty, in the name of unmitigated capitalism, with opposition to the ACLU?

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Response to Neon2012 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:46 AM

15. Rovian hypocrisy

You simply project your inequities on the the opposition and repeat it over and over again until it becomes accepted.

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Response to Neon2012 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:12 AM

13. I say conservatives are afraid of change

You ask why anyone would be opposed to protecting something positive?
Obviously, the wrong place to start.

I believe that conservatives still believe in trickle down.
My con friends also support the right of business "leaders" to make the rules
(even thou these people are no longer businesss owners but are just employees at high levels)
A lot of cons fell safer being stuck right where they are now - no forward but maybe backward to a place they knew before.
Some support religious beliefs that hold back "progress" and try to impose those beliefs on others.

I say, let's begin where we all agree. Let's start to look at how to get people off welfare and gov't assistance
there is certainly waste and corruption there. the answer is not in cutting programs where there are needy people to protect.
We need to get the needy, unneedy and contributing to society.

Also, we need to reduce the corruption in our government and programs.
Congress is bought
The SCOTUS is bought and/or biased
The government is no longer acting on behalf of the American people.

Not easy but we have to start somewhere...


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