Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:44 PM
WillyT (66,000 posts)
If I Were President Obama... Here Would Be MY Opening Offer... In "Grand Bargain" Negotiations...
"If were gonna start using the 55 Years old measure, to tell people that the social contract has been altered, forever, for everyone 55 and under...
Then I would like to propose THIS...
When we "reform" Social Security...
Maybe we should start talking about lowering the age of collecting Social Security and Medicare benefits, to the magical 55...
It would guarantee that many more people, after a lifetime of work, might get a better chance at enjoying the last years of their lives, as opposed to counting on so many to DIE in order to support the program...
It would ensure that nobody's child, or parent, DIES OF CANCER, without a fair fight.
It would ensure that ALL YOUNG PEOPLE would have a shot at a job where they can start, learn, grow, and have the dream that their ancestors did. Instead of competing with 45 yr olds as lifeguards and paperboys...
And... it would change the narrative.
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If I Were President Obama... Here Would Be MY Opening Offer... In "Grand Bargain" Negotiations... (Original post)
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Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:54 PM
graham4anything (11,464 posts)
1. one thing young people forget-
the youth in America spent 2 years in service and got education and were out of the job market for two years
so comparing yesterday to today, one needs to remember that
Maybe we do need some sort of national service(not military) for two years then 4 years of college paid for
also, then, one person in a household worked, not two
and a health care like the French have would pay back 1000 times what people get in SS
but that wasn't attainable back in FDR's or LBJ's day
maybe that is attainable now that we have started improving health care.
Think of Lincoln and how he reframed words to make the other side think they got something, but in the end, Lincoln got more than he sought doing so.
give an inch, gain a mile