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Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:14 PM

'Two and a Half Men' actor calls his show 'filth'

The teenage actor who plays the half in the hit CBS comedy "Two and a Half Men" says in a video posted online by a Christian church that the show is "filth" and that viewers shouldn't watch it.

Nineteen-year-old Angus T. Jones has been on the show, which used to feature bad-boy actor Charlie Sheen and remains heavy with sexual innuendo, since he was 10 but says he doesn't want to be on it anymore.

"Please stop watching it," Jones said. "Please stop filling your head with filth."

Jones plays Jake, the son of Jon Cryer's uptight divorced chiropractor character, Alan, and the nephew of Sheen's hedonistic philandering music jingle writer character, Charlie. Sheen, who has publicly criticized CBS, was fired and replaced by Ashton Kutcher, who plays billionaire Walden.

More at: http://news.yahoo.com/two-half-men-actor-calls-show-filth-224233686.html

This should get interesting.

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Reply 'Two and a Half Men' actor calls his show 'filth' (Original post)
Zorro Nov 2012 OP
msongs Nov 2012 #1
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #19
War Horse Nov 2012 #2
white_wolf Nov 2012 #6
JHB Nov 2012 #42
brooklynite Nov 2012 #3
Berserker Nov 2012 #4
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #20
Politicub Nov 2012 #29
KamaAina Nov 2012 #50
white_wolf Nov 2012 #5
LisaL Nov 2012 #7
white_wolf Nov 2012 #8
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #23
Politicub Nov 2012 #32
tavernier Nov 2012 #9
white_wolf Nov 2012 #10
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #21
retread Nov 2012 #24
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #26
frylock Nov 2012 #46
arcane1 Nov 2012 #54
tavernier Nov 2012 #61
JimDandy Nov 2012 #11
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #12
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #18
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #43
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #22
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #27
Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #30
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #45
Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #47
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #48
TeamPooka Nov 2012 #13
WillyT Nov 2012 #14
uponit7771 Nov 2012 #63
FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #15
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #16
Bolo Boffin Nov 2012 #17
CBGLuthier Nov 2012 #25
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #28
graham4anything Nov 2012 #31
spanone Nov 2012 #33
Ian David Nov 2012 #34
WI_DEM Nov 2012 #35
AlexSatan Nov 2012 #36
LisaL Nov 2012 #38
seabeyond Nov 2012 #37
LisaL Nov 2012 #39
seabeyond Nov 2012 #40
WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #58
LisaL Nov 2012 #64
WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #65
WolverineDG Nov 2012 #44
Bradical79 Nov 2012 #41
nolabear Nov 2012 #49
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #51
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #52
truebrit71 Nov 2012 #53
notadmblnd Nov 2012 #55
customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #56
pstokely Nov 2012 #62
ann--- Nov 2012 #57
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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:21 PM

1. hmmm, closet case protest? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:28 AM

19. Or pretty accurate review?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:35 PM

2. Maybe he's going all Kirk Cameron.

All the while getting $350 thousand per episode.

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Response to War Horse (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:43 PM

6. Oh please Kirk Cameron wishes he could make half that.

Seriously what was the last thing he did? Left Behind?

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Response to white_wolf (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:06 AM

42. Maybe a "Christian" remake of the Bananna Splits?

I think he's pitching to be Fleagle.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:37 PM

3. As long as the checks clear...

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:39 PM

4. Then quit

 

you little asshole and give all your money to charity.

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Response to Berserker (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:29 AM

20. Read more of the story. He has a contract.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:47 AM

29. He puts money in front of his morality

Angus should put up or shut up. If he's that concerned he would break his contract.

Otherwise he's nothing but hot air.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:15 PM

50. And what does his contract say about "conduct detrimental to the show" or some such?

Trashing your own show in public would certainly qualify.

Bring in Donald Trump to tell him "You're fired!"

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:42 PM

5. Rather convenient that he wants out as the show is in its ratings decline.

I'd have more respect for him and his opinion if he gave donated all the money he made from the "filth" for the last 9 years. Somehow I doubt he'll donate that money. He is coming across as extremely self-righteous.

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Response to white_wolf (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:45 PM

7. To be fair, he was a minor for most of those 10 years.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:47 PM

8. Then let him give what he can to charity.

I'm just saying it is extremely hypocritical for him to say the show is filth while he is keeping the money from it.

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Response to white_wolf (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:31 AM

23. Who says he isn't?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:02 AM

32. Hilarious! why should he? He may be part of the prosperity gospel movement

Maybe he thinks that god put him in this filthy environment as a spiritual test. Yield not to temptation and all that.

Unless, of course, the temptation is $$$.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:47 PM

9. Lately most of the sitcoms are heavy with sexual innuendo

Tonight the ones I watched were all about penises, scrotums, the number of times the characters had sex, etc. etc.

I didn't find them filthy... just a tad ho-humish. The extreme prudishness that the puritans brought over to America is finally starting to crumble, and I suppose for a while we will have to suffer a nation that is behaving like a giggly junior high student.

Hopefully we'll get over it soon and move on to more interesting humor. At least we've evolved past most of the fart jokes.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:54 PM

10. Sexual innuendo in shows don't really bother me that much.

I don't normally find it all that funny, but I do think it is good in one way. Like you mentioned it shows that America is finally moving past its puritanical views, which is always a good thing.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:30 AM

21. "Extreme prudishness" to find the humor cheap and tawdry, even if funny?

I think Charlie Sheen is and was hilarious (the few times I watched. I liked him better when he was "Winning!").
But the pretense that the jokes are NOT base and crass is ridiculous!

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Response to tavernier (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:32 AM

24. Heh, heh, heh, You said penises. You said scrotums.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:40 AM

26. All about scrotums? What fucking channel do you watch?

Apparently that's not on my cable lineup.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:05 PM

46. you've never seen Ow! My Balls!

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Response to frylock (Reply #46)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:22 PM

54. "Go away, I'm batin'!"

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:07 PM

61. Mike and Molly

He's trying to impregnate her so the whole episode was about his penis, scrotum, testicles, jewels, boys, nutbag, etc. etc. I don't think they skipped any of them. The other sitcom was about two women who are starting a cupcake store. One was all about selling her eggs because "face it, look at my boobs, I'm like a human incubator", the other about non stop best sex she's ever had with her boyfriend.

I don't mind the language... I'm a nurse. I've seen 'em all. It just seemed a bit juvenile in the humor.

I love Big Bang and there is plenty of sexual humor there, but the difference is that the jokes are funny.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:55 PM

11. What are "Signs of an actor who wants out of a contract?"

Let's play Jeopardy!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:33 AM

12. I think that's harsh

"Juvenal attempt at humor that stops just short of fart jokes" is sufficient criticism.

I've tried watching it, and while I wasn't morally offended, I found myself intellectually insulted by smart ass retorts that would make a seventh grade student roll his eyes.

I'm sure the sitcom "Three's Company" was also labeled "filthy" in it's day, but that show now appears Shakespearean by comparison, and that's sad.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:28 AM

18. They're appealing to the lowest common denominator-what do you expect.

I keep saying that "Idiocracy" is a documentary.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:08 PM

43. Then it's a national tragedy.

Less popular sitcoms, like Suburgatory, Community, and The Middle actually use semi-complex plot lines, more sophisticated one liners that don't sound like school yard retorts, and do it without a distracting laugh track to cue the slack jawed viewer that a joke just salied past them.

The fact that Two and a Half is the comedy that creates all the buzz is sad indeed. Perhaps American culture is finally ready for a return of The Three Stooges, because the old crosscut saw across the head gag never gets old to average viewers.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:31 AM

22. You would be wrong about "Three's Company."

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:41 AM

27. Yes. In some alternate universe it may be considered Shakespearean

But not in this one.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:48 AM

30. Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis

The irony is great in this one.

from the ever popular wikipedia:

At first glance the Satires could be read as a critique of pagan Rome, perhaps ensuring their survival in Christian monastic scriptoria, a bottleneck in preservation when the large majority of ancient texts were lost.

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Response to Tansy_Gold (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:36 PM

45. Now you're over my head.

Not being a student of Latin I have to assume this means there were papyrus scrolls in the Great Libraries of Alexandria telling of a scholar who wisely held his palm upright to avoid a painful but temporary blinding, and that has been lost to history's bonfire because the Catholic church couldn't discern a deeper theological meaning.

Perhaps had the Greeks added proper due to the Saviour in postscript, the gesture would still be part of a Catholic ritual. But wait... I've seen the Pope do exactly that as he crosses himself. My confusion deepens.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #45)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:31 PM

47. Apparently WAY WAY WAY over. . . .

The post to which I was replying had a misspelling. Instead of the correct word "juvenile," someone had written "juvenal."

Juvenal, whose full Latin name was Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis, was a Roman poet of the early christian era (by date, if not politics or religion) who wrote his Satires critical of the culture he lived in. There being no printing presses -- much less photocopiers, scanners, or Kindle Direct Publishing in those days -- much of his work was preserved in hand-written form by christian monks and scribes.


The irony, therefore, is that almost 2000 years after Juvenal's time, TV comedies (which I haven't watched for decades) are their own form of satire, or at least commentary on the contemporary culture. That one of the stars of such a program is turning christian in protest is just, well, further irony.

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Response to Tansy_Gold (Reply #47)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:10 PM

48. Ah... Now I see.

...and you are one deep individual indeed.

I am merely the victim of a spell check that apparently overestimated my thought process by passing the inncorrect spelling. That I was dismissing Two and a Half as being moronic now seems ironic in it's own right.

Maybe I should give the show a second chance.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:35 AM

13. saving $350K per episode sounds great....

is what Chuck Lorre and CBS are probably thinking.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:38 AM

14. Would Love To Know How He Feels About Faux News, Drudge, Rush...

THAT... is my definition of "filth".



& Rec !!!

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Response to WillyT (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:56 AM

63. +1!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:48 AM

15. Yet there he goes

serving both god and Mammon.

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Response to FightForMichigan (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:01 AM

16. He just renewed his contract

The show hasn't changed. It's always been full of sexual references. I know that Kirk Cameron had issues with some of the story lines on Growing Pains, but I don't believe he ever criticized the show publicly. Alan Thicke advised him that if he thought Growing Pains was too racy, he'd better turn to Christian entertainment, which is exactly what he did after the show was over. I wonder if Angus is one of these child actors that's been supporting his entire family and he's continued doing it under duress. Well, he's 18 now. If he's miserable he should quit. Maybe that's why they had his character join the Army. They're probably going to send him to Afghanistan.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:23 AM

17. He's taken up with a real religious nutbag, Christopher Hudson

http://waitinforthedj.blogspot.com/2010/01/christopher-hudson-aka-forerunner-is.html

This f'ing moronic video is brought to you by the guy who wants to convince you that Jay-Z, Kanye West, and a whole slew of other successful black entertainers were only able to achieve success through joining the "Illuminati" and not by means of actual talent. Most often, people who generate and circulate conspiracy theories do so in an attempt to explain situations or events that they find otherwise inexplicable. It is unfortunate that he applies such theories to the success of African-Americans in the media.

That being said, don't get too bummed out about his apparent disbelief in genuinely successful black individuals. I'm pretty sure the dude is just an idiot.

For example, the video below shows Chris Hudson (who has taken to calling himself "The Forerunner") attempting to logically support the notion that masturbation is immoral. First, watch the video; then, see my list of arguments below on both why he's wrong and why he's a moron. Enjoy!




You can find the list back at this fellow's website.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:35 AM

25. If it were good filth I would watch it but it is bad, crappily done filth

I have tried to understand the humor of this show. I did not know that the 14 year-old demographic that all of its humor must be aimed at was so vital to CBS.


I would imagine this tired expensive old show is probably on its last legs.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:43 AM

28. Hear, Hear!

Let's get some quality filth on television!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:59 AM

31. the show is funnier now than the last few years.

 

Last good episodes with Charlie where when Martin Sheen guest starred on the show
Aside from that the last few seasons were too forced, much like the later years of married with Children.

As for the kid? Are we sure of what context this was said in, and does it reflect his normal stance?
Just a youtube is not proof to me. And who was it aimed at if it is real?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:03 AM

33. yet he cashes the check. mr jones, shut the fuck up.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:15 AM

34. It's hard to believe this show is created by the same guy who does Big Bang Theory.

Two and a Half Men really is a crappy show.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:24 AM

35. They may as well let him go, he hardly appears on the show anymore anyway.

bring in some little, cute kid playing a cousin or nephew or something to take his place.

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:40 AM

36. Oliver! (nt)

 

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:57 AM

38. I think they should just stop making this show alltogether.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:42 AM

37. it was a good balance for a couple years and denigrated to filth. the kid is right. nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #37)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:59 AM

39. I think it was always filthy, but at least with Charile Sheen there it was more entertaining.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #39)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:04 AM

40. i really only watched a couple seasons. how long has it been on? but, i started to get more and

more angry with their "jokes" and stopped watching. hubby watched about another year and he had enough. that was with charlie there.

who knows where it is at now. i dont watch.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #39)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:47 PM

58. The "filth" was somewhat subtle,

sort of an inside joke, but now it's like viewers are beaten over the head with it. The show was funny when Jake was a chubby 12-year-old interacting with Charlie (e.g., the ballet lessons and performing "Bohemian Rhapsody"). Now they're caricatures -- too slutty, too dumb, too conniving, too cheap. It's way past time to hang it up, but I guess there's still a lot of money to be made...

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #58)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:57 AM

64. And Alan's character is really just so repulsive.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:44 AM

65. Ugh, yes.

The "lovable loser" shtick lasted as long as he had *some* redeeming qualities, but that was lonnnnng ago.

There's nothing creative/original to many of these sitcoms... it's like the writers are perusing Craigslist personals for ideas. And lifting from "Seinfeld."

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #37)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:21 PM

44. Yup.

I watched the whole series on DVD, tried watching the post-Charlie Sheen episodes, & gave up. Somewhere along the way, they stopped letting the characters evolve. Charlie Sheen was right---the show was/is really that bad.

In the case of Angus' character, they kept him stupid, really stupid, to the point that their only option was to have him enlist in the military instead of going to college. Completely wrote him into a corner.

John Cryer's character?? Don't get me started. I'm more repulsed by his character than I ever was by Charlie Sheen's. He's not just a moocher, he's a thief. And that is not funny.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:04 AM

41. Maybe right conclusion with the wrong reasoning

Yeah, though I found it entertaining (haven't watched since he became more grown up though) the show is garbage. He thinks it is filth though because of some paranoid religious belief that watching the show is the plan of "the enemy" (Satan). It's just a show with characters who have little redeeming qualities, a parade of women who are little more than sex toys for the men, and the same rehashed low brow gags over and over. It's a successful formula for a cheap laugh, and not part of some cosmic supernatural plot.

Also, if he thinks the show helps Satan, then he should leave. Wouldn't their version of God be more concerned with him working directly in supporting the devil's plan than a potential lawsuit?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:13 PM

49. One way to get out of a contract. Not a smart way but maybe promises are being made.

If the fundamentalists are promising him something he might think it worth his while to throw in with them. I predict his disappearance from the scene in 3...2...1...

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:17 PM

51. Stopped watching after Charlie Sheen left. He was the only good thing about the show,

mostly because he was really just playing himself.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:18 PM

52. I can feel his righteous disgust ...

why he's so disgusted he will talk smack against his show ... but continue accepting the $300,000+/episode check. That's conviction, I tell ya.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:21 PM

53. Poor little bastard has obviously been brain-washed...

...hope his new buddies at the "church" he attends enjoy all of his money...because this is the last gig he'll ever get in Hollywood...

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:27 PM

55. And what, they chain this kid to the set at night?

Why would he be part of a program that he feels that way about?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:41 PM

56. Child actors tend to go to one extreme or the other

when having to deal with being famous way before they've had a chance to develop a normal sense of who they are. This is better than him being drugged out and/or in prison.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:49 AM

62. How many child stars end up normal?

Some still have show business careers on screen or off (Ron Howard), others become addicts (to religion or drugs), or mismanage their cash (Erin Morgan)

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:43 PM

57. He's right

It is. Couldn't watch it with Charlie Sheen and it's worse with the 70's show nitwit. Horrible show. Why did Angus' mother let him perform in the show at such a young age around all that sexual innuendo.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:06 PM

59. Crude humor can be crude and very funny,

crude and kind of funny, or just plain crude. To me what counts is whether it is genuinely funny or not. Carlin and Pryor worked very blue and they made me laugh so hard I thought I was going to pass out. They also made me think. Smarmy sex jokes that never would have made it into a Playboy cartoon back in the bunnymag's '60s-'80s heyday just aren't funny unless you're 14.

Too much of today's TV humor - and I don't watch much anymore - is crude for the sake of being crude. And yes, I am looking straight at you, Seth McFarlane, even though I enjoy Family Guy more often than not, and BTW, your other shows suck donkey turds with hurricane force. There is nothing wrong with a well-timed fart joke as such, but when entire episodes of sitcoms are nothing but fart jokes or their comedic equivalents, things become desparately unfunny and very quickly.

I think the bronies are on to something in their enthusiasm for My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. It's cute, smart, designed for audiences of all ages (so says creator Lauren Faust) and beautifully animated and acted. It's a welcome oasis of what is good, praiseworthy and decent (in the non-puritanical sense of the word) and a wonderful escape from the crude, the crass and the gross. Not that I want the latter to go away entirely as it is necessary once in a while. But there's no need to be as dumb and all-pervasive as it has become.

So while I will still watch Family Guy, I find MLP:FIM more satisfying entertainment on many more levels, and I don't have kids (though I am a lifelong animation geek).

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:09 PM

60. Good for him. And he's right. nt

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